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Offline Kombaiyashii

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Protecting myself from poker players
« on: March 28, 2012, 04:02:37 am »
I play poker online for a living. It's a tough job and can be very stressful. I keep getting these strange dreams after I play. I keep dreaming that I am getting into fights with these people that I believe I am playing. Sometimes I am beating them up while others they are beating me up, they sometimes use magick against me.

Do you think it could be possible that the connection we have while both facing these decisions has a kind of psychic battle going on also? I play very math orientedly so I never really try to get involved psychologically, however it's hard to not feel bad after you just lost a bunch of hands.

Or do you think these people are my own manifestations that I'm struggling with internally?

Either way, what measures do you think I should take to protect myself? Should I do a banishing ritual before and after playing?

Your creativity, thoughts and input is welcome!

Offline ignant666

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Re: Protecting myself from poker players
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 01:30:39 pm »
Not probably a very helpful response, but I've always regarded dreaming about work as a a sign that I needed to change my line of work; a sort of psychic immune response.
My amateur psychoanalysis: perhaps you are in dreams working through/emotional psychological conflicts suppressed "in the heat of the moment" in the interest of card-counting & calculation or whatever your math-oriented play-style involves?

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Re: Protecting myself from poker players
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 02:46:28 pm »
Strenuous physical activity immediately afterward is the most effective cure for intense and sustained intellectual effort. If that isn't possible, then changing the mind with a completely different kind of thinking - mindless movies like comedies or action, things that don't involve thinking, just response and pleasure.

In the old esoteric metaphor, derived from Plato, the passions - the emotions - are like two horses harnessed to a chariot. The chariot driver is reason, directing and controlling the passions. If the driver isn't strong enough, the metaphor goes, the horses will go wherever they want, sometimes in different directions, and the chariot will crash. The point here is that the horses are the energy, and the driver is the will.

Intense intellectual effort, intense reasoning, without physical release, is like making the emotions, the desire you need to get anything done, push the chariot instead of pulling it. This means that reason, of course, has to steer looking behind and forward at the same time, doubling the effort and meaning that instead of guiding power that is naturally there (pulling the chariot), will has to summon power from behind - metaphorically below. Summoning from those reserves, and the concentration of steering in such a difficult way, means that you are calling upon energy reserves which contain the most primitive kinds of emotions - fear, fighting, fleeing to a secure place, anger, domination, etc. The intellectual mind doesn't care where the energy comes from, so long as it gets the job done, but when it is finished, the energy now aroused is STILL THERE. Intellectual effort alone can't exhaust it, so now you have to do something else to calm it down.

Hence the solution of intense physical effort, which ALWAYS works, or at least a complete change of what the mind is focusing on, preferably something that will make you laugh or cry or just feel really really good.

I should add that I don't recommend "relaxation" as a cure for a wound-up mind; listening to soothing music or smoking pot will usually just allow the wound-upness to continue. What is needed is an intense change of focus that is completely different from intellectual concentration.
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Re: Protecting myself from poker players
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 06:23:00 pm »
I play poker online for a living. It's a tough job and can be very stressful. I keep getting these strange dreams after I play. I keep dreaming that I am getting into fights with these people that I believe I am playing. Sometimes I am beating them up while others they are beating me up, they sometimes use magick against me.

I don't think you need to worry.  Let's remember two facts:

Fact 1: Dreams are weird.

Fact 2: Whenever you do something a lot and intensely during the day, you tend to dream about it in the following night.

So it's perfectly natural that after a long, intense day of playing poker, you would dream about playing poker (fact 2).  It's also natural and expected that those dreams would be strange and even frightening at times (fact 1).


Or do you think these people are my own manifestations that I'm struggling with internally?

All the people you meet during your dreams are your own manifestations.  They may be based on real people you meet while you're awake, though.

We all have models in our heads to represent other people.  Have you ever thought "that's just like him"?  That means the model in your head has represented the real person accurately.  Likewise, if you think "he's not acting like himself", your model has not accurately represented the real person.

When we are dreaming, we do not have access to the real persons, we only have our models of them to play with.  And since dreams are weird (fact 1), those models are often grossly distorted during our dreams.

For example, it would be perfectly normal and sane to dream that your wife is secretly a superhero, but if you thought like that while awake, you would need help from a mental health professional.
"The great problem with religion is when what is said by the founder of the religion, which was supposed to be taken metaphorically, is taken literally."  -John Cleese

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Re: Protecting myself from poker players
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 07:30:56 pm »
Liber Aleph.

Some interesting takes on dreams in there.
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Offline ApeOfTheApeOfThot

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Re: Protecting myself from poker players
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2012, 02:31:30 am »
It could be someone (not in the poker world) using your poker obsession as a portal to get to you on the astral.  Look into the Gestalt form of psychotherapy and dream analysis.  Look into various dream catcher techniques too.