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Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« on: July 03, 2006, 07:27:31 am »
Can anyone tell me something about the current age and whereabouts of Crowley's son Aleister Ataturk McAlpine? Any other children. living or dead?

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Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2006, 05:50:47 pm »
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According to Martin Booth's biography, Aleister Ataturk Crowley was 10 in 1947 at the time of his fathers death in December of that year. Booth claims that his formal education started in 1948 at Wester Eichies, the Gordonstoun preparatoy school, before going to the US sometime later.

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 02:33:45 am »
My thanks to one of the most prominent Crowley scholars for the following:

Charles Edward d'Arquires (formerly known as Randall Gair Doherty formerly known as Aleister Attaturk formerly known as Aleister Macalpine), b. 2 May 1937, Newcastle-on-Tyne, died on 20 November 2002 in Chalfont St Peter, Bucks. All of the above is from the death certificate, which has an incorrect date and year of birth (mistakenly giving 11 May 1939). His birth certificate gives the name as Randal Giair Doherty, with that odd spelling.
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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 06:14:39 am »
I've actually tried my best to find at least one photo of Aleister Ataturk (exept the know one where he's a toddler), but I didn't...
Does anyone know some pictures?
I really cant believe that there are no pictures of the one dead already in 21st century.  ;)

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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 09:26:28 am »
Funny that I was actually reading this old post myself last night and tried to do a little digging using the internet.
I found that a lot more hits come up if you search under "Charles Edward d'Arquires"
A recent lot of his was up at auction in 2008 which is also linked on LAShTAL.

http://www.lashtal.com/forum/index.php/topic,3286.msg32488.html#msg32488

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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 05:59:30 pm »
Does anyone  know what that whole "Count Charles Edward d'Arquires"/"supreme court of england" thing was about anyway? Sounds like the sort of self-styled grandness his old dad would have done.


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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 08:40:27 am »
just to note: 

the new Starfire II v.4 has a piece which may be of interest here

"Two Fragments on Ataturk by Ithell Colquhoun – reminiscences on the genesis and subsequent life of Crowley's son"

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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2015, 05:35:41 am »
I read the following interesting post online today regarding d'Arquires, which suggests that AC may have another living grandson.

''Aleister Macalpine...aka Charles Edward D'Arquies born May 2nd 1937 (born the day after his planned birth of Beltane day) lived a very unhappy schizophrenic life. I was there in Madron, Cornwall the day he set he set off for London as the Count Charles Edward D'Arquies with Peter Bishop in tow, they stayed at the Dorchester Hotel (1976) His son Aleister Macalpine (born June 20th 1968) is my brother, named after him. We treasure his sad memory and the pressures that were unfortunately bestowed upon him by his father Aleister Crowley. He became a deeply religious man in his later years, and was found living on a park bench, just off the Talbot road in London, with his suitcases neatly organized.''
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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2015, 09:05:26 am »
A very interesting and lengthy article, about Aleister Ataturk McAlpine, appeared in Starfire magazine a little while ago. I don't have the issue to hand, but I'm sure others will be able to provide the issue details.
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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2015, 10:31:16 am »
A very interesting and lengthy article, about Aleister Ataturk McAlpine, appeared in Starfire magazine a little while ago. I don't have the issue to hand, but I'm sure others will be able to provide the issue details.

The article appeared in the last issue to date, Volume 2 Number 4. It consisted of two written accounts by Ithel Colquhoun, who knew Ataturk's mother and, of course, Ataturk himself.
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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 01:13:20 pm »

The article appeared in the last issue to date, Volume 2 Number 4. It consisted of two written accounts by Ithel Colquhoun, who knew Ataturk's mother and, of course, Ataturk himself.

Yes I enjoyed reading that in the last issue, really interesting accounts.
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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2015, 01:51:31 am »
Here is a photo of Aleister Ataturk in later life, I think I can see a resemblance to his father in the face.



And to accompany Colquhoun's article in Starfire Volume 2 Number 4, I've also attached one of the newspaper clippings mentioned.



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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2015, 08:30:01 am »
oh you've added a picture of John H.

(John who??)
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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2015, 03:25:11 pm »
oh you've added a picture of John H.

(John who??)

That's just my forum signare. If there's any interest I have a family photo of D'Arquies with one of his sons which I can upload.
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Re: Aleister Ataturk McAlpine
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2015, 03:47:46 pm »
oh you've added a picture of John H.

(John who??)

That's just my forum signare. If there's any interest I have a family photo of D'Arquies with one of his sons which I can upload.

I'd be interested in seeing it, stanforda.
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