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Recommendations - Alan Moore's grimoire due 2009...
loscult - Feb 27, 2007 - 02:41 PM
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http://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalog.ph ... &title=578
Oden - Feb 27, 2007 - 03:12 PM
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That looks awesome! Alan Moore does great stuff.
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kidneyhawk - Feb 27, 2007 - 03:38 PM
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Loscult-!
Thanks for this link! This will be a much anticipated work...and it sadly occured to me as I read through the "announcement" that we seem to be located in the first quarter of a place called 2007!
ARGH!!!
"Alan Moore knows the score!" 
Questforknowledge - Feb 27, 2007 - 08:57 PM
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"a fold-out Kabalistic board game in which the first player to achieve enlightenment wins providing he or she doesn't make a big deal about it,"
Ha! Hysterical 
We are all going to need a copy of this!!
Q.
loscult - Feb 27, 2007 - 10:29 PM
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On a serious note, this is a mainstream book, by a well known, world famous author published by a mainstream publishing house that is an actual GRIMOIRE, crammed to the gills with overt occult material.
This will bought by thousands of non-occultists.
For these reasons alone, this is a landmark event.
amadan-De - Feb 28, 2007 - 01:28 AM
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Fantastic News.
Alan Moore always has been and always will be a True Master of his Art.
(If you haven't read the piece on The Moon and Serpent Grand Egyptian Theatre of Marvels in Kaos 14 find Joel Biroco's site now...)
uranus - Mar 02, 2007 - 01:49 AM
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I'm gonna lay something out to y'all on Moore's new book. I know some of the people who have seen bits of it and it's gonna piss a LOT of people off when it comes out because he doesn't hold punches on the state of the occult community. He's kind of like me, only more vitriolic. LOL. OTO groups and HOGD groups are not spared the rod at all.
I also wouldn't cal Top Shelf mainstream by any means. They are about as indy as it gets in comic books.
0beron - Nov 09, 2007 - 08:07 AM
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Yes, Alan Moore is brilliant.
Did anyone see the Cobweb piece he did on Jack Parsons called "Brighter than You Think..."?
DC refused to publish it under the ABC imprint, so Moore took it to Top Shelf. It appeared in the anthology "Top Shelf Asks the Big Questions." I'd highly recommend it if you can find it.
On a related note, has anyone read "Strange Angel: The Otherworldly Life of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parsons" by George Pendle?
I gobbled it up in two days.
Fascinating.
But it did give me nightmares about L. Ron Hubbard.
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ErichZann333 - Nov 10, 2007 - 01:04 PM
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Great news but we have to wait until 2009 for its release.
I was wondering if anyone has read his novel 'Voice of the Fire'?
It seems to be a psycho-geographical portrait of Northampton.
gurugeorge - Nov 11, 2007 - 09:22 PM
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Second the Moore encomiums, he's really top notch. I'm gradually working my way through Promethea at the moment and it's such a brilliant graphic novel.
All his stuff his great. (I particularly love the Top Ten.) Him and Grant Morrison are without a doubt my favourite comix writers. Morrison is also a serious magician, and his ideas are often wilder and more interesting than Moore's, but Moore is a better storyteller I think (more gripping, involving) - that's not to say Morrison is a crap storyteller, it's just a small difference in emphasis between two huge talents.
Horemakhet - Nov 11, 2007 - 09:28 PM
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If you You Tube Alan Moore, there are some delightful little pieces on Northhampton and an interview that spends some time discussing his relations with a luxuriously long haired Serpent God name Glycon. Alan Moore is one of my favorite writers. I believe that there have been past Threads discussing AC in ´From Hell´, and even perhaps the illustrated prose-poem that was ´Snakes & Ladders´. The best introduction to Alan Moore´s magickal mind that I have read appeared in an unusual place. Those of you who might be aware of ´ CEREBUS ´, an absolutely major work of the graphic form, might recall a prolonged discussion between MR. Sim and MR. Moore, wherein much of a peripheral nature was discussed in regards to comic books, but where focal points resided on Esoteric subjects - i.e. - Moore´s. Unfortunately, none of this has been reprinted in collected form with the rest of the Cerebus epic. The discussion ran for several months in what used to be the letter pages. There is also a long interview with him in in an Eddie Campbell 1 shot called ´EGO´, that I have yet to track down....
0beron - Nov 22, 2007 - 04:03 AM
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93, all!
As well as The Moon and Serpent Bumper Book of Magic (the grimoire), Moore's putting out a three-volume set of the League of Extraordinary Gentleman (Mina Murray, Captain Nemo, Allan Quartermain, Anthony Raffles, and Orlando) in 2008.
The three volumes track forward from 1910 to 1968 (groovy) to the present and follow "a shadowy occult order who are attempting to create something called a Moonchild" (sound familiar?).
I can't wait, although Top Shelf, as a small independent publisher, is more than a little spotty when it comes to meeting deadlines.
Also, for those of you who have seen only the movie of League, please wipe it from your minds. The movie shares only the title and a few names; all the detail and wonder can only be found in the comic books (the first and second six-issue series were published by DC under Moore's ABC imprint).
As for Promethea, I've read a little about Qabala, but I can safely say that everything I know about it, I learned from Promethea's multi-issue trek up the Tree of Life. Her stop at Daath is especially mind blowing.
Top Ten: issue eight makes me weep every time. Who knew a teleporation accident could be so profoundly moving?
I've been following Grant Morrison since Animal Man (DC), but I find sometimes his characters get drowned out in all the postmodern language games.
Still, he did write a fascinating article in Disinformation's Book of Lies called "Pop Magic!"
Anyways, be well.
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uranus - Nov 22, 2007 - 09:07 PM
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The third volume of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen came out last week, the Black Dossier. This book was very late due to DC and Moore's relationship issues but has already sold out on the distributor level!!! Look for it, it looks really goo.
0beron - Nov 23, 2007 - 04:38 PM
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93!
Wow, thanks uranus. The promos have been out for the Black Dossier for some time, but I'd almost given up hope. I'll have to interrogate my comic book distributor on that one. Up here in Canada, distribution may be on a different schedule, but I do have my pre-order in, so I hope I'm covered.
If you read it, you'll have to tell me what you think.
Blessed be,
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Cernunnos - Nov 24, 2007 - 07:37 AM
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Unfortunately, and though I do not want to ruin anyone's day but the Black Dossier does not ring as true as the two previous entries in the League's history. I am an avid reader of comics in general, and Alan Moore in specific, and feel his is the most brilliant mind in comics today, but there is something off about this latest book. There are fantastic elements but in the end there is seriously large holes left in the overall experience.
On another note, what exactly has anyone heard about this Grimoire? I am extremely interested in a concentrated essence of Alan Moore's occult influences and thoughts. I see the link up above and it tells me alot about his over all idea, but any other info would be fantastic.
0beron - Feb 08, 2008 - 05:03 AM
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93, all!
Just a note to say I finally got a hold of a copy of the Black Dossier. Appropriately enough for its title, it's barred from distribution in Canada. A friend of mine ordered his copy on eBay.
I hear the restriction is due to copyright infringements on the Avengers TV series and the Bond movies.
Well, half way through it, I have to say it does pale in comparison to Volumes I and II, although it is rife with Crowleyian and Lovecraftian references. It does come across as a kind of gratuitous game show where you score points for every allusion you find.
However, watching a young Emma Peel kick the living shit out of Mina is well worth the price of admission. Go Emma!
Hopefully, the three-volume Top Shelf set will be better (if we ever see it).
On a side note, has anyone heard the two CDs Alan Moore did of his ritual performances: The Highbury Working and Angel Passage?
I listened to them a long time ago, but I remember them as being quite gripping.
Blessed be,
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Walterfive - Mar 20, 2008 - 08:33 PM
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Oh, the Black Dossier isn't bad, it's rather denser a read than vols. 1 & 2, but I found the ending a bit disappointing on the 1st and 2nd read-throughs... perhaps I'll change my mind by the 3rd or 4th.
Promethea, OTOH, is amazing stuff, throughout all its volumes: it convinced me that Mr. Moore is an Adeptus, and (at least) my equal in Illumination and matters Qabbalistic; He alludes to "secrets" and gives proof of an understanding of Magick that could only be related by an individual who has rended the Veil of Paroketh, and achieved the knowledge and understanding of the Sphere of Tipareth. Beyond that, I would not venture to guess, because I make no claim to any development beyond that, personally. But I've lent my set to each of my students as required reading of the work of a genuine 21st Century Adept, and it's *really* turned the light on for one or two of them whose very lacking public school education prevented them from understanding much esoteric writings in books without pictures-- comic books, they understand! (I think it's because they're not intimidated by the comic books, personally, so they get around the mental blocks they've made for themselves about more traditional book-learning.)
ElGod - Mar 21, 2008 - 12:00 AM
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Is this the same Alan Moore that penned 'V' For Vendetta? The classic tale of Anarchy and rebellion against the 'Big Brother' state? The movie of the same name was equally brilliant and showed that the Watchowski Brothers can make good films without over emphasis on bullet time and pseudophilosophy (my neologism of the day).
This does look like a book that I must have. I will clear a space on my bulging esoteric bookshelf ready for the time when it is released.
BlueKephra - Mar 21, 2008 - 12:04 AM
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The same. He disowned the V For Vendetta film however, as he has every other cinematic version of his writings. Quite right , they've all been cack. Though VfV is probably the least atrocious.
ErichZann333 - Mar 21, 2008 - 11:38 AM
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The title of this thread has to be changed since the publication is now postponed to 2010 
Walterfive - Mar 21, 2008 - 02:10 PM
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BlueKephra wrote: › The same. He disowned the V For Vendetta film however, as he has every other cinematic version of his writings. Quite right , they've all been cack. Though VfV is probably the least atrocious.
Hardly "cack." "V" was head and shoulders above 99% of the dreck made by the Big Film Companies. Moore appearantly didn't like that it watered down his criticisms about Thatcherism to merely criticize totalitarianism, but tough titty: the rest of the world could give a tin fart in a gold mine about Margaret Thatcher in the 21st Century, we've got much bigger problems now. And when *I* compare the film, scene to scene, to the graphic novel, I note that comparatively few changes actually seem to have been made. Looks like the same overall story to me, they didn't even seem to change most of the characters.
For some reason I haven't *seen* Johnny Depp in "From Hell" so I can't say one way or the other about it. "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" was a freakin' Monster/Super-Hero movie in the same genre as "Van Helsing." I mean, what did he expect? Freakin' "Doctor Zhivago?" I understand that as an artist, he probably regards all of these projects as his "children", but hey, you know what? He's the one signing the goddamn contracts, taking the checks, and whoring them out to Hollywood.
Can't wait to see how he blows his top over "Watchmen." 
But from the website, it sure *looks* like it's gonna be good! 
And yeah, I noticed they'd put the production back another year myself.
amadan-De - Mar 21, 2008 - 07:40 PM
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He's the one signing the goddamn contracts, taking the checks, and whoring them out to Hollywood.
As I understand it; Hollywood is the one coming looking for materials, Alan Moore is not taking the money but having it paid to his artist collaborators on the original works - this was certainly true of 'V for Vendetta' and I'm pretty sure is for 'Watchmen' too, not sure what the situation was for 'From Hell' or The League though. If I have time (and find them) I'll put links here later...
Still looking forward to this Grimoire, whenever it happens (as long as Mr Moore doesn't pull a "Gems of Power" stunt 
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BlueKephra - Mar 21, 2008 - 07:53 PM
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Indeed. He "freakin'" isn't taking the cheques.
spike418 - Mar 23, 2008 - 05:55 PM
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I am really looking forward to the Grimoire. It seems to me that he is one of the few doing genuinely original work rather than following the well travelled and brightly lit magickal highways that others trudge along without question or diversion. Although I am not a fan of the graphic novels genre.But for once I feel that it is me missing out! I just don't get them.
I did work and live in Northampton during the eighties and loved the Maxwell the Magic Cat cartoon strip he drew for the weekly free paper. I seem to remember he pulled them as a protest about something in the paper?
0beron - Sep 05, 2008 - 04:54 AM
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93, All
It's been a while, but this thread keeps pulling me back.
I agree with ErichZann333 that it should probably be changed due to TopShelf's eternal deferral of a production schedule. I actually tried creating a thread quite a while ago focusing more generally on Moore's work as a whole, but it seems to have died a quiet death. For now, I guess this thread will have to serve multiple purposes.
I also agree that V for Vendetta has been the best adaptation so far (we'll see what Zack Snyder can do with Watchmen--the trailer gives me shivers every time I see it), but although the film captures the look of the book, it misses for me the essence.
My major difficulty is what I see as the cheapening of the theme of initiation. Evey and the police detective go through profound spiritual transformations in the original; in the movie it seems all you have to do is put on a mask and wear a cape. It's the mass production of enlightenment. and that for me, misses the mark--wide.
Anyways, here's to the day when we can finally discuss the grimoire--and that three-volume League of Extraordinary Gentlemen story about the "Moonchild."
Blessed be,
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uranus - Sep 06, 2008 - 01:50 AM
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ElGod wrote: › Is this the same Alan Moore that penned 'V' For Vendetta? The classic tale of Anarchy and rebellion against the 'Big Brother' state? The movie of the same name was equally brilliant and showed that the Watchowski Brothers can make good films without over emphasis on bullet time and pseudophilosophy (my neologism of the day).
This does look like a book that I must have. I will clear a space on my bulging esoteric bookshelf ready for the time when it is released.
The Wachowski's wrote the script sure, but I think it was McTeigue who made the film work.
LittleAlickGrewUp - Sep 18, 2008 - 10:45 PM
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If I ever met the guy, spent a few minutes in his company and he turned around and said
"You know, you're an okay sort of bloke. " that would make my decade. Sad I know.