Teachers, Disciples and Students, Friends and Enemies - A useful Massey resource here Watkins - Jul 19, 2008 - 03:13 PM Post subject: A useful Massey resource hereincludes links to poems and proseMichaelStaley - Jul 19, 2008 - 05:37 PM Post subject: RE: A useful Massey resource here
Thanks for drawing that to our attention, Watkins. And welcome to Lashtal.
Best wishes,
Michael.lashtal - Jul 19, 2008 - 08:38 PM Post subject: RE: A useful Massey resource here
Thanks for the link. Obviously, the reason Massey is included in LAShTAL.COM is his influence on Crowley and Grant.
Massey's remarks about Blavatsky are perhaps indicative of how he'd feel about the slant put on his writings these days:
'It is a delusion to suppose there is anything in the experience or wisdom of the past, the ascertained results of which can only be communicated from beneath the cloak and mask of mystery, by a teacher who personates the unknown, accompanied by rites and ceremonies belonging to the pantomime and paraphernalia of the ancient medicine men.'
-- The Agnostic Journal, Oct. 3rd, 1891.sethur666 - Jul 20, 2008 - 09:20 AM Post subject: RE: A useful Massey resource here
I agree. Massey was a revolutionary socialist and atheist whose typology was a way of analysing past beliefs, not accepting them. Interestingly, he is highly regarded by modern Black History researchers.Watkins - Jul 21, 2008 - 09:27 PM Post subject: Re: RE: A useful Massey resource here
sethur666 wrote: › Interestingly, he is highly regarded by modern Black History researchers.
Yes, it struck me whilst reading some bits of Massey ('Book of the Beginnings' IIRC) - on world religion & myth having an Egyptian/African origin - that this was real 'Black Athena' stuff. I will have to check 'Black Athena' and see if Massey is acknowledged...
It was definitely illuminating for me to re-read Grant's Typhonian trilogies with Massey's influence in mind.
BTW As a long-time lurker of these boards, only recently started posting - 'hello' to everyone here. Thanks for the welcome!the_spurious_simon_iff - Jul 21, 2008 - 11:30 PM Post subject:
'It is a delusion to suppose there is anything in the experience or wisdom of the past, the ascertained results of which can only be communicated from beneath the cloak and mask of mystery, by a teacher who personates the unknown, accompanied by rites and ceremonies belonging to the pantomime and paraphernalia of the ancient medicine men.'
Thanks for the link Paul.
Although, it's a fairly confident statement for somebody who never ventured off British shores?
If he were alive today, I'm sure he wouldn't be popular in certain areas of East London, Golders Green or South Hall, with a pantomiming attitude like that.Anticredos - Jul 22, 2008 - 09:30 AM Post subject:
"If he were alive today, I'm sure he wouldn't be popular in certain areas of East London, Golders Green or South Hall, with a pantomiming attitude like that."
I don't doubt it. I recently ran across this guy - William Henry - who uses Webster's ENGLISH dictionary to decipher Sumerian and Akkadian texts. A modern heir to Massey? Then again, at least Massey had a reasonable if naive argument as to why a Welsh word or name might correspond to an Egyptian one, rather than "Thomas Jefferson valued his dictionary over all his other books!"
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/Disciple% ... _henry.htmthe_spurious_simon_iff - Jul 22, 2008 - 11:10 AM Post subject:
It is an odd statement to make, seeing that the very reverse of it is the case. Too much time spent in the dusty confines of the British Library I think, which itself would have been the main pantomime in town in those days.
I'm going to stick to good old Budge for now...Watkins - Sep 28, 2008 - 05:57 PM Post subject:
And another Massey website here, including an essay 'Massey's Followers', which examines, amongst others, Massey's influence on Grant lashtal - Sep 28, 2008 - 06:11 PM Post subject:
An excellent resource - thank you so much for the link.