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Biography - lets talk About Aleister Crowley
quandary121 - Aug 29, 2008 - 05:07 PM
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Look I'm a new member here and I've been recommended to this site to discuss my views on said person Aleister Crowley ,i believe that this man practised Satanism and that he was not a person who demands respect please tell me your views on this man as to what you perceive him to be in this respect, i say that he was a depraved sexual deviant, and drug taker ,who practice's Satanism,any one like to take me up on this point.?
QUOTE "Crowley himself was terribly decadent. A happily heroin-addicted, bisexual Satan worshiper, he asked people to call him "The Beast 666." Crowley believed that he was literally the antimessiah of the apocalypse."
ANY TAKERS !!!!
quandary121 - Aug 29, 2008 - 05:17 PM
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Secrets of the German Sex Magicians. This book talks about the ritual use of pain and attributes to Crowley the most perverted of practices such as bestiality and the ritual consumption of body fluids. Crowley, in fact, trod in his practice a path similar to that of the more materialistic authorities. Although he positively encouraged ejaculatory orgasm in his sex magic, he always made a point of consuming what he called the "elixir" afterwards. He understood this elixir to be the mixture of the sexual fluids of both partners or, in the masturbatory act, as just the semen. He entered very carefully in his the magical diaries a description of the elixir's consistency and taste, and he even recorded the prophecies which he deduced from these data.
And Crowley's practices go on to be even more disgusting.
Coprophagia, which means consumption of excrement, here also includes consumption of other secretions such as urine and sweat. It was ritually practiced from early times on the sympathetic-magic principle that the secretions of any entity contain part of its magis. Crowley, for example, occasionally offered his disciples in Cefalu the excretement of a goat. This frequently met with no small disapproval!
Crowley performed a similar ritual in his Sicilian Abbey of Thelema, during which his Scarlet Woman was to be mounted by a goat which would be beheaded during the climax.
Just one example of the sick behaviour of this man
quandary121 - Aug 29, 2008 - 07:45 PM
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Crowley's present day admirers see him as a white magician, but Crowley himself was not so sure about it. In the 1920s he wrote in his diary: "I may be a black magician but I'm bloody great one."
Another quote from said man "I may be a black magician but I'm bloody great one." if he indeed did say this ,how come im being told that he was not a Satanist ,by somebody here who asked me to come here to find out more about him namely asturel13 who i might add has not entered into this debate with me as yet
DNA - Aug 29, 2008 - 07:55 PM
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I have a distinct, funny feeling this, er, "thread", is going to be locked. Hopefully promptly. quandary121, if you had taken a quick glance at the content of this webpage, you would have noticed none of your posts correspond with anything here. I suspect a little provocation.
No?
michaelclarke18 - Aug 29, 2008 - 08:01 PM
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clearly a troll.....
lashtal - Aug 29, 2008 - 08:05 PM
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Best not feed him, then.
Camlion - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:14 AM
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lashtal wrote: › Best not feed him, then.
This is the sort of attack that mighty unify and galvanize Thelemites, but only if it came in the form of angry mobs with flaming torches visiting our homes in the dead of night.
lashtal - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:20 AM
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Just can't be arsed, to be honest. The bloke's a fool who likes to describe his fantasies online. This week it's LAShTAL, next week it'll be somewhere else.
Eventually he'll become an adult and then he'll be more than a little embarrassed by his juvenile desire to display such ignorance and crass gullibility.
asturel13 - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:51 AM
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Yes Quandary121, I advised that you come here as this is the best resource online for information on the 'real' Aleister Crowley (webmaster, apologies if this was treading on anyones toes!). Might I suggest that you are viewing Crowley and his works with a lot of preconcieved ideas? To my mind, a few Goetic Evocations here and there and summoning Choronzon in the desert hardly constitutes a distinguished career in "Black Magick", especially when viewed against the backdrop of all his other works which have, for the most part, a distinctly white-light / Right Hand Path flavour! The supreme goal for any decent Occultist, as far as Crowley was concerned, was "union with the divine", and "The knowledge and conversation of the HOLY guardian angel" was also central to his spiritual doctrine... None of this has anything to do with Diabolism of any sort. You also seem to be quoting Crowley out of context in order to support your opinion, and whilst no expert in Crowley's work I dont recognise some of the quotes you have used (on that other site), the ones that refer to "satan" rather a lot and i suspect you have gleaned them from very suspicious sources indeed. There are many sensationalist books about Crowley with 'quotes' such as these and they are all complete drivel, only a handful of books about Crowley are truthful and unbiased. Sure, Crowley had a lot of anti-christian beliefs but this does not make him a satanist by any stretch of the imagination, even if he did 'flirt' with satanic imagery and concepts in his youth.
As a 'leftie' myself, I would love nothing more than for Crowley to be the big bad sinister Satanist you believe him to be, i would be very happy indeed if his works imparted the deepest darkest secrets of Black Magick and each of the chapters of Liber Legis to be attributed to Lilith, Samael and Asmodeus, instead of Nuit, Hadith and Ra Hoor Khuit, but sadly none of this is the case!! And Crowley had a very low opinion of people such as myself and if you had researched his work at all you will have noticed how he had little time for the 'Black Brothers' of the Left Hand Path. In fact, he was far more influenced by Bhuddism than anything remotely Demonic!
I personally have witnessed a ressurgence in all this "Crowley was a Satanist" stuff since david Icke and a great many other conspiracy theorists decided that it would suit their paranoid delusions if he was, but 'satanic lizards' is a different issue entirely!
There are many things about the man that i find very repellant, but that does not detract from my enjoyment of his written works, his poetry and his strange and delightfully weird art! I also take a great deal of inspiration from 'The Book of The Law' although i would not term myself a Thelemite.
When I think of a "satanist" I think of someone like Anton La Vey, someone whose work and belief system could'nt be any more opposite to Crowley's own both in terms of quality and spiritual direction. the last thing any initiate of the Left Hand Path desires is 'union with the divine'!
(PS, please excuse my awful grammar and spelling, I am presently on that 'Champix' drug to quit smoking so its rather difficult to focus at the moment lol).
lashtal - Aug 30, 2008 - 01:04 AM
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An excellent post. Thank you.
BlueKephra - Aug 30, 2008 - 03:58 AM
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"When I think of a "satanist" I think of someone like Anton La Vey...."
When I think of Anton LaVey, I think of Hollywood, and all the idiots that inhabit it. What that has to do with Crowleys work I do not know.
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 06:33 AM
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DNA wrote: › I have a distinct, funny feeling this, er, "thread", is going to be locked. Hopefully promptly. quandary121, if you had taken a quick glance at the content of this webpage, you would have noticed none of your posts correspond with anything here. I suspect a little provocation.
No?
Hi DNA why should this be the case,just because somebody does not agree with the majority of people on this forum ,does that make there point less important then others ,it is through such people that changes are made ,through out of chaos change is made ,when opinions stay the same so does life itself,like i put im new here so to get things right straight of the bat would be asking a lot wouldn't it .?
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 06:38 AM
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michaelclarke18 wrote: › clearly a troll.....
No friend just somebody who wants to know what others think that's all,
like i said i was asked to come here to ask my questions about Aleister Crowley ,admittedly i have put my neck on the block,because you are all lovers of this man ,and to get an unbiased view point here i think is unlikely,if not impossible but im not bothered about being a black sheep amongst the white .
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 06:49 AM
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lashtal wrote: › Just can't be arsed, to be honest. The bloke's a fool who likes to describe his fantasies online. This week it's LAShTAL, next week it'll be somewhere else.
Eventually he'll become an adult and then he'll be more than a little embarrassed by his juvenile desire to display such ignorance and crass gullibility.
And this reply from a site admin how very wise and grown up you turned out to be.???
A resort to snide remarks and uninformed comments about somebody you neither know or understand ,it is not ignorance and crass ,to ask a question about things which are spoken off but i suspect that you would prefer members to tow the party line,if your mentor Aleister Crowley did this would he hold as much fascination for your web page and forums i think not
im probably older then you are so your post about how juvenile i am probably applys to you more then it does me ,in your official position here i would of thought that you would have shown some glimpses of your obviously greater knowledge on the subject but alas nothing but the very opposite,your own ignorance
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 07:27 AM
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asturel13 wrote: › Yes Quandary121, I advised that you come here as this is the best resource online for information on the 'real' Aleister Crowley (webmaster, apologies if this was treading on anyones toes!). Might I suggest that you are viewing Crowley and his works with a lot of preconcieved ideas? To my mind, a few Goetic Evocations here and there and summoning Choronzon in the desert hardly constitutes a distinguished career in "Black Magick", especially when viewed against the backdrop of all his other works which have, for the most part, a distinctly white-light / Right Hand Path flavour! The supreme goal for any decent Occultist, as far as Crowley was concerned, was "union with the divine", and "The knowledge and conversation of the HOLY guardian angel" was also central to his spiritual doctrine... None of this has anything to do with Diabolism of any sort. You also seem to be quoting Crowley out of context in order to support your opinion, and whilst no expert in Crowley's work I dont recognise some of the quotes you have used (on that other site), the ones that refer to "satan" rather a lot and i suspect you have gleaned them from very suspicious sources indeed. There are many sensationalist books about Crowley with 'quotes' such as these and they are all complete drivel, only a handful of books about Crowley are truthful and unbiased. Sure, Crowley had a lot of anti-christian beliefs but this does not make him a satanist by any stretch of the imagination, even if he did 'flirt' with satanic imagery and concepts in his youth.
As a 'leftie' myself, I would love nothing more than for Crowley to be the big bad sinister Satanist you believe him to be, i would be very happy indeed if his works imparted the deepest darkest secrets of Black Magick and each of the chapters of Liber Legis to be attributed to Lilith, Samael and Asmodeus, instead of Nuit, Hadith and Ra Hoor Khuit, but sadly none of this is the case!! And Crowley had a very low opinion of people such as myself and if you had researched his work at all you will have noticed how he had little time for the 'Black Brothers' of the Left Hand Path. In fact, he was far more influenced by Bhuddism than anything remotely Demonic!
I personally have witnessed a ressurgence in all this "Crowley was a Satanist" stuff since david Icke and a great many other conspiracy theorists decided that it would suit their paranoid delusions if he was, but 'satanic lizards' is a different issue entirely!
There are many things about the man that i find very repellant, but that does not detract from my enjoyment of his written works, his poetry and his strange and delightfully weird art! I also take a great deal of inspiration from 'The Book of The Law' although i would not term myself a Thelemite.
When I think of a "satanist" I think of someone like Anton La Vey, someone whose work and belief system could'nt be any more opposite to Crowley's own both in terms of quality and spiritual direction. the last thing any initiate of the Left Hand Path desires is 'union with the divine'!
(PS, please excuse my awful grammar and spelling, I am presently on that 'Champix' drug to quit smoking so its rather difficult to focus at the moment lol).
Thankyou asturel13 you found the forum post that i spoke about to you ,this is the site that you reccomeded me to discuss the pros and cons of Aleister Crowley or the black and white of the man so far yours is the only reply worth reading i was hoping for some discussion of this topic but you co members seem to have chips on their shoulders,and are unable or unwilling to enter into a debate and fall back on the easy approach of name calling and supposition about me i would have hoped for more ,but i suppose that was to much to ask,in your reply you say that quote Crowley's own both in terms of quality and spiritual direction. the last thing any initiate of the Left Hand Path desires is 'union with the divine'! this i think is somewhat inaccurate would not Lucifer be one of these divine beings and even if somebody would want union with such as he ,in my mind ,they know not of him ,to believe that anything that they wished for would be ignored by this selfish self-serving demon.
I think that this is probably the crux of the whole debate "What I think of when i think of a"Satanist",as maybe it is how one would define such ,maybe you knowledge of such things makes you say that you do not believe that he was one ,as it would not fit in with what you believe to be a practicing Satanist,i myself not knowing the ins and outs of such rites of passage ,i would as you said to me before come from a Christian standpoint and can only base my thought from such a position,and this may indeed be my undoing over this .
As for the quotes used on the other site i can assure you that they either were direct statements from books by Aleister Crowley, or from diary's from him,so unless his books are all fixation or just purely fiction then i stand by them until proved wrong,this i am willing to believe if it is shown that i am wrong ,your reply is the only one here worth answering as all the others seem to think im a fool or idiot ,strange considering they know nothing about me or my thoughts or thinkings.
Did not Aleister Crowley have a deep respect for H. P. Blavatsky and her Secret Doctrine and it is this White Brotherhood teachings that make you believe that Aleister Crowley followed this path rather then the darker one
as shown in this review of what he thought about her quote
Aleister Crowley recognized Blavatsky as a Sister of A.'.A.'. (i.e. a Master of the Temple 8°=3# in his system of spiritual grades), specifically pointing her out as his immediate predecessor in “The Temple of Truth,” published in The Heart of the Master through O.T.O. in 1938. He thought it especially noteworthy that he was born in the same year that the Theosophical Society was inaugurated. Crowley reissued Blavatsky’s Voice of the Silence (Extracts from the Book of the Golden Precepts, including “The Two Paths” and “The Seven Portals”)
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 07:38 AM
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asturel13 does not the connection between Albert Pike and Aleister Crowley,prove such satanic overtones
Two quotes the first albert pike the second a couple of quotes from Crowleys books
"...And the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer..."
Albert Pike (1809-1891)
From The Book of the Law, by Aleister Crowley:
With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross......
There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.
From SATANIC EXTRACTS, by Aleister Crowley:
The Oath of Fealty
I bind my blood in Satan's hands,
All this that lieth betwixt my hands
To thee, the Beast, and thy control,
I pledge me; body, mind, and soul.
Pledge
I swear to work my Work abhorred,
Careless of all but one reward,
The pleasure of the Devil our Lord
Like the Templars before him, Albert Pike revived the worship of Baphomet and other gods; but Baphomet, stands out. It was a devil which Aleister Crowley claimed to have channeled in 1906 while writing "The Book of the Law", another holy work among the serious 20th century Luciferians, or Satanists. Crowley also claimed to be the incarnation of Eliphas Levi, a sorcerer from a century back whom in turn heavily influenced his contemporary, Albert Pike.
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 07:45 AM
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BlueKephra wrote: › "When I think of a "satanist" I think of someone like Anton La Vey...."
When I think of Anton LaVey, I think of Hollywood, and all the idiots that inhabit it. What that has to do with Crowleys work I do not know.
Anton Szandor LaVey [1], (April 11, 1930 – October 29, 1997) was the American founder and High Priest of the Church of Satan as well as a writer, occultist.
Books by Anton Szandor Lavey
The Satanic Rituals
The Devil's Notebook
The Satanic Witch
Think again.
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 07:56 AM
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Crowley learned ritual magic from the man who was renown as the master of his day, MacGregor Mathers. The pupil-student relationship soon turned into a bitter rivalry and resulted literally in a Black Magic war. When Mathers died in 1918 many of his friends were convinced that Crowley was responsible for his death. Mathers, also a Freemason, introduced Crowley to an occult organization called the "Golden Dawn" and helped Crowley along his dark walk on the Egyptian Masonic road.
Still i say that he indeed was a satanist ,and as yet im unconvinced to believe otherwise,a part from asturel13 post none of you here have given any real proofs to the contrary ,i await your replys and do try to keep the name calling to your self as i do not need to be told what you think of me or why this is a discussion forum not a playground of like minded children ganging up on the new kid on the block to all of you who wish to behave like this i have this to say to you
You are so clueless that if you dressed in a clue skin, doused yourself in clue musk, and did the clue dance in the middle of a field of horny clues at the height of clue mating season, you still would not have a clue.!!!!
michaelclarke18 - Aug 30, 2008 - 08:36 AM
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clearly a troll...
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 08:44 AM
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michaelclarke18 wrote: › clearly a troll...
AND YOU A CLEARLY A IDIOT .!!!! DONT BOTHER TO POST IN THIS FORUM AS YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEITHER WELCOME OR HELPFUL,IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT THEN GO AWAY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD THEN PLEASE DO SO BUT THE TWO COMMENTS OF
clearly a troll.
LACK ANY REAL VALIDITY OR MIRTH, SO GIVE UP TRYING TO BE CLEAVER WITH ME, AS YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ,AGAINST WHAT I DO INDEED KNOW
Horemakhet - Aug 30, 2008 - 08:52 AM
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Crowley was not of the "Black Robe"- he was of the "Red". It is a technical point, but this may make some difference to you. Those who have practiced what you like to call "Satanism", only ever called it this because they thought of Christianity as an intolerable form of intellectual fascism. It is true that he used "Sexual Fluids", but those of us who like a good f#@k seem to have no problem with these 'experiments'. You will find him even more interesting than you already do the more deeper you delve: Richard F. Burton is most likely the key to his interest in what is called " Sex Magick ", & his later work as the head of an order that specialised in the same confirms it.
Am I wrong, or are there other books of your guy, not included in the gospels which prompt one to think that just maybe, he was not so averse to the idea of religious piety through sexual love than so many of his followers like to think?
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 09:19 AM
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Horemakhet wrote: › Crowley was not of the "Black Robe"- he was of the "Red". It is a technical point, but this may make some difference to you. Those who have practiced what you like to call "Satanism", only ever called it this because they thought of Christianity as an intolerable form of intellectual fascism. It is true that he used "Sexual Fluids", but those of us who like a good f#@k seem to have no problem with these 'experiments'. You will find him even more interesting than you already do the more deeper you delve: Richard F. Burton is most likely the key to his interest in what is called " Sex Magick ", & his later work as the head of an order that specialised in the same confirms it.
Am I wrong, or are there other books of your guy, not included in the gospels which prompt one to think that just maybe, he was not so averse to the idea of religious piety through sexual love than so many of his followers like to think?
Thankyou for your comment but could you please elaborate on what you mean when you say quote
"Am I wrong, or are there other books of your guy"
If you are talking about Jesus here then you are confusing what you think i think on the subject of Jesus and his followers ,with what Christian view points are on such a man.
would you too please explain what is meant by red robed also, i understand that to wear a black robe would incline you towards black magic ,and a white towards white magic ,if what i think you mean is a red robe means a coexistence of both magical practices, then how would this not be defined as a satanic role play,in this case ,did Aleister Crowley not follow Satanism when performing the summoning of Baphomet,his own admittances to be the incarnation of Eliphas Levi a Roman Catholic known to worship the devil as the red mass proves and the crooked cross the pontiff carrys and also the upside-down cross the pontiff seat ,also points to satanic worship
ttharju - Aug 30, 2008 - 10:24 AM
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aum
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 10:42 AM
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ttharju wrote: › aum
Do you mean gaum it means to smudge or smear
im unfamiliar with the term AUM for me it has no real message ,i do not understand your reasoning behind such a word
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 10:47 AM
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ttharju wrote: › aum
or do you mean this
Aum (also Om) is a mystical or sacred syllable in the Hindu, Jain and Buddhist religions
Horemakhet - Aug 30, 2008 - 11:43 AM
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... I said this because you are obviously a Christian, of one form or another. Protestant branch, I gather. But, I do not mean to camp you down, necessarily. I wish you would do the same.
The quote you mentioned about being a " Bloody great one!", in terms of a Black magician, was written because of the way the public viewed him. - & not only the "public", but some closer to him, such as Yeats.
As far as I now understand it, the "white robe" signifies the Holy Fool . The practicing Magickian is usually in between these states. There are 3 courses of attainment, & the Black Robe is one of them. However, none of them constitute " Satanism ".
Crowley was a Satyr. Only a " Holy Fool " would think less of him....
lashtal - Aug 30, 2008 - 11:50 AM
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You really are a little confused about this sort of stuff, aren't you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Quandary121
http://quandary121.googlepages.com/quandary121
http://quandary121.blogspot.com/
I think you're wanted on the David Icke forums. Thanks for popping in to visit, but, to be frank, your determination to fail to comply with each and every one of the Guidelines has simply grown boring.
Horemakhet - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:16 PM
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... just checked those links out. Looks to me like the bloke already has all the answers. Aleister Crowley may = AlienReptile fighter? or the reverse. What is the angle here, & who really cares?....
michaelclarke18 - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:32 PM
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quandary121
You posts aren't worth responding to, because they are the work of a misinformed idiot.
And please stop sending me abuse emails.
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:38 PM
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Oh look you found some sites of mine do you really think i care whether you post my name on your site ,i have nothing to hide so go a head ,or was it more of your pathetic attempts of a playground humorist ,oh by the way you missed out one try this as well,it must have taken you all of ten minutes to find all those sites well done what a cleaver little man you are ,
Erwin Hessle
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =384371289
http://www.wildhunt.org/labels/Lashtal.html
or my personal favourite where you say I am still a beginning-learner, and there are some things I would like to do that I don't know how to do.
http://www.webmaster-talk.com/php-forum ... s-i-w.html
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... ;p=6543145
My image doesn't show.
And I don't know what i'm doing wrong 
http://www.psychics.co.uk/psychic-forum ... 067e354b78
neuromantik
http://1.2.3.10/bmi/userserve-ak.last.f ... 444392.jpg
erwin@erwinhessle.com.
your a wimp lashtal or should that read fishtail im not sure ,your pathetic attempts to show me up have done anything if you feel posting my name across a web site is dangerous,i dont thanks for the edifying position,at last my name in lights ,i no longer have to hide behind my duel identity i can shake off my quandary and be myself once more lol i have no reason to be ashamed of any of the sites that bear my moniker's and neither am i
http://www.youtube.com/user/Quandary121
http://quandary121.googlepages.com/quandary121
http://quandary121.blogspot.com/
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/membe ... ry121.html
many of these sites are quite eye opening to those who have eyes to see and opinions that match
i don't see where i have failed to comply with each and every one of the Guidelines where exactly is it that i have done so ,or is it because i don't bow down to Mr Crowley as you hedonist do ,is this the real reason for your ambiguity's ,i suspect it is [/img]
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:44 PM
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michaelclarke18 wrote: › quandary121
You posts aren't worth responding to, because they are the work of a misinformed idiot.
And please stop sending me abuse emails.
SO why bother i did ask you to keep your comments to your self but hey i suppose that was too easy,i still stand by what i said in my PM to you f*&K WIT
lashtal - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:52 PM
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quandary121 wrote: › Oh look you found some sites of mine do you really think i care whether you post my name on your site
Your name isn't posted on this site: well, it is now, because you've posted it.
Quote: › what a cleaver little man you are, Erwin Hessle
The word's "clever". And what does Erwin have to do with any of this?
Quote: › http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=384371289
A different LAShTAL.
Quote: › my personal favourite where you say I am still a beginning-learner, and there are some things I would like to do that I don't know how to do.
A different LAShTAL.
Quote: › http://www.webmaster-talk.com/php-forum/152481-php-w-y-s-i-w.html
A different LAShTAL.
A different LAShTAL.
Quote: › http://www.psychics.co.uk/psychic-forum/discussion/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11052&sid=d14a57cdda58af41d83834067e354b78
psychics.co.uk?! Definitely a different LAShTAL!
Quote: › http://1.2.3.10/bmi/userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/4444392.jpg
"Page load error."
You're really not very good at this sort of thing, are you?
Quote: › erwin@erwinhessle.com
Hang on... You think I'm Erwin, don't you? Oh, that's priceless.
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 12:56 PM
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Horemakhet wrote: › ... just checked those links out. Looks to me like the bloke already has all the answers. Aleister Crowley may = AlienReptile fighter? or the reverse. What is the angle here, & who really cares?....
Why bother to check them out you only had to ask
Sol2Sol - Aug 30, 2008 - 01:20 PM
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The sound of crickets would be an appropriate tone for this thread. I'm sure there's something more productive for all of us to spend our time and energy on.
Bringer_Of_Light - Aug 30, 2008 - 01:22 PM
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quandary121 wrote: ›
michaelclarke18 wrote: › clearly a troll...
AND YOU A CLEARLY A IDIOT .!!!! DONT BOTHER TO POST IN THIS FORUM AS YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEITHER WELCOME OR HELPFUL,IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT THEN GO AWAY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD THEN PLEASE DO SO BUT THE TWO COMMENTS OF
clearly a troll.
LACK ANY REAL VALIDITY OR MIRTH, SO GIVE UP TRYING TO BE CLEAVER WITH ME, AS YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ,AGAINST WHAT I DO INDEED KNOW
Ohhhhh, anger, rage, lol. 
Man you really are the prince of clowns ain't ya................
You cant even research your subject properly..................Book Of The Law was received in 1904 not 1906.
Crowley was not introduced into the Golden Dawn by Mathers it was actuallyGeorge Cecil Jones who introduced him to the organisation.
Lavey was purely an atheist who realised that Satanism could be turned into a nice little earner.........................I dont blame the man, and although Im certainly no member of the Church Of Satan I wholeheartedly agree with most of the rules in the Satanic Bible...............common fucking sense if you ask me. As for your comments regarding Albert Pike, the key note in regards to Lucifer (glory be unto his name) is philosophical.............the last terminology being the key.
As for Jesus....................well, personally I got nothing against the guy, but I just wouldn't be able to resist the evil impulse to nail the fucker up my self, his philosophy of weakness could never be claimed as virtues.
For all the Lashtalians reading, I can only seriously apologise for the belligerence in the post (Paul if you have to give me a warning about my conduct here fair-do's I'll quite happily accept), to you Quandary I offer only my contempt................you asked for it.
Alan
ianrons - Aug 30, 2008 - 02:38 PM
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I think the same people who were interested in slandering Crowley during his lifetime are also interested in doing the same today. A lot of this stuff coming from quandary121 is reminiscent of rumours that I believe originate with the LaRouche organisation. LaRouche (through his contacts in Russian circles) probably has access to info gathered by Germany going back to before WWII, so is aware of (and has stated) Crowley's role as a secret agent for the British. But in his homophobic-Catholic mind this means a "Beast-Man" conspiracy of gargantuan proportions (the details of which I'll omit). Although I have no doubt quandary121 isn't consciously aware he is being manipulated by this sort of propaganda, the fact is that all he can do is pull a few quotes out of context. There's no logic connecting any of it. The only thing that I haven't spotted in this thread is the "Crowley was Mrs. George W. Bush's mother" joke.
As far as countering the allegations from quandary121's first post, it's probably worth doing a brief outline:
"depraved sexual deviant"
One man's depraved sexual deviant is another man or woman's evening of fun. You presumably disapprove of bisexuality? If so, this is absurdly prudish and a frankly muddle-headed view of the human body and sexuality.
"drug taker"
Whilst illegal in most countries, the use of psychoactive substances is nevertheless quite prevalent and has a long history in religion. For specifics see the extensive published sources dealing with esp. ritual use of hallucinogens, which writing is an interesting blend of the anthropological, botanical and medical that unfortunately makes it very dull to the lay person. This much for his use of, e.g., peyote and cocaine. However, Crowley was also prescribed heroin for his ashthma, which became a physical addiction that he never shook off. The fact that he *didn't* end up psychologically destroyed by it is a testament to his mental endurance -- for every other addict it seems to leave permanent scars.
"who practice's Satanism" (sic)
He did rebel against his strict Christian upbringing -- "evil be my good" -- but was never a "Satanist" in the sense of someone invoking the opposite of the Christian God. The "Satan" that you talk about is really only a medieval invention to symbolise all the "immorality" that the Roman Church didn't approve of; but Crowley ultimately came to believe in the "goodness" (for want of a better term) of everything, so his God also included everything that you call "Satan". Instead of allowing the forces controlling what he called the "slave religions" of Christianity, Islam, etc., to determine what is right for each individual, he threw it back and said: you decide. In Thelema, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." But naturally there are forces who still oppose this idea, because they want to be able to tell you what is "Satan". To LaRouche, Satan is pretty close to the Catholic idea. But to fully answer your question about whether Crowley was a Satanist, I need to ask you: what does "Satan" mean to you? or do you think it's an actual physical human-shaped being?
Then maybe we can carry on this conversation.
ianrons - Aug 30, 2008 - 02:55 PM
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And please take note of how commas work before replying.
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 02:56 PM
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[quote="Bringer_Of_Light"]quandary121 wrote: ›
michaelclarke18 wrote: › clearly a troll...
AND YOU A CLEARLY A IDIOT .!!!! DONT BOTHER TO POST IN THIS FORUM AS YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEITHER WELCOME OR HELPFUL,IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT THEN GO AWAY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD THEN PLEASE DO SO BUT THE TWO COMMENTS OF
clearly a troll.
LACK ANY REAL VALIDITY OR MIRTH, SO GIVE UP TRYING TO BE CLEAVER WITH ME, AS YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ,AGAINST WHAT I DO INDEED KNOW
Ohhhhh, anger, rage, lol.
Quote: › Man you really are the prince of clowns ain't ya................
really says you ,and you are who exactly a retard
Quote: ›
You cant even research your subject properly..................Book Of The Law was received in 1904 not 1906.
Big deal a petty remark about publishing dates whoo hoo you score a point
Quote: › Crowley was not introduced into the Golden Dawn by Mathers it was actuallyGeorge Cecil Jones who introduced him to the organisation.
Started in London in 1887 by three British Freemasons, Dr. William Robert
Woodman, Dr. William Wynn Westcott, and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers,
the first Temple of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, with the title
"Isis-Urania," began to admit Fratres and Sorores in 1888.
so one can assume that The Golden Dawn was founded by three Freemasons (Mathers, Woodman, and Westcott ,and that Mathers probably did introduce Crowley not George Cecil Jones as you seem to think you have been reading to much Wikipedia drivel
Quote: › Lavey was purely an atheist who realised that Satanism could be turned into a nice little earner.........................I dont blame the man, and although Im certainly no member of the Church Of Satan I wholeheartedly agree with most of the rules in the Satanic Bible...............common fucking sense if you ask me.
im not asking you am i
Quote: › As for your comments regarding Albert Pike, the key note in regards to Lucifer (glory be unto his name) is philosophical.............the last terminology being the key.
to what understanding your lack of understanding so your denying Albert pikes spirit guides are you in the name of philosophical reasoning .?One message that Albert Pike received from his spirit guide, and which in reality we know to be a demonic vision, he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order
Quote: › As for Jesus....................well, personally I got nothing against the guy, but I just wouldn't be able to resist the evil impulse to nail the fucker up my self, his philosophy of weakness could never be claimed as virtues.
philosophy of weakness where do you get this from your deluded egocentric beliefs
Quote: › For all the Lashtalians reading, I can only seriously apologise for the belligerence in the post (Paul if you have to give me a warning about my conduct here fair-do's I'll quite happily accept), to you Quandary I offer only my contempt................you asked for it.
Bringer_Of_Light i care not for your offerings ,be they whatever they are
Sol2Sol - Aug 30, 2008 - 03:11 PM
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quandary121 wrote: ›
Bringer_Of_Light wrote: ›
michaelclarke18 wrote: › clearly a troll...
You cant even research your subject properly..................Book Of The Law was received in 1904 not 1906.
Big deal a petty remark about publishing dates whoo hoo you score a point
Oh dear.... Being received doesn't mean 'published.'
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 03:15 PM
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ianrons wrote: › I think the same people who were interested in slandering Crowley during his lifetime are also interested in doing the same today. A lot of this stuff coming from quandary121 is reminiscent of rumours that I believe originate with the LaRouche organisation. LaRouche (through his contacts in Russian circles) probably has access to info gathered by Germany going back to before WWII, so is aware of (and has stated) Crowley's role as a secret agent for the British. But in his homophobic-Catholic mind this means a "Beast-Man" conspiracy of gargantuan proportions (the details of which I'll omit). Although I have no doubt quandary121 isn't consciously aware he is being manipulated by this sort of propaganda, the fact is that all he can do is pull a few quotes out of context. There's no logic connecting any of it. The only thing that I haven't spotted in this thread is the "Crowley was Mrs. George W. Bush's mother" joke.
As far as countering the allegations from quandary121's first post, it's probably worth doing a brief outline:
"depraved sexual deviant"
One man's depraved sexual deviant is another man or woman's evening of fun. You presumably disapprove of bisexuality? If so, this is absurdly prudish and a frankly muddle-headed view of the human body and sexuality.
"drug taker"
Whilst illegal in most countries, the use of psychoactive substances is nevertheless quite prevalent and has a long history in religion. For specifics see the extensive published sources dealing with esp. ritual use of hallucinogens, which writing is an interesting blend of the anthropological, botanical and medical that unfortunately makes it very dull to the lay person. This much for his use of, e.g., peyote and cocaine. However, Crowley was also prescribed heroin for his ashthma, which became a physical addiction that he never shook off. The fact that he *didn't* end up psychologically destroyed by it is a testament to his mental endurance -- for every other addict it seems to leave permanent scars.
"who practice's Satanism" (sic)
He did rebel against his strict Christian upbringing -- "evil be my good" -- but was never a "Satanist" in the sense of someone invoking the opposite of the Christian God. The "Satan" that you talk about is really only a medieval invention to symbolise all the "immorality" that the Roman Church didn't approve of; but Crowley ultimately came to believe in the "goodness" (for want of a better term) of everything, so his God also included everything that you call "Satan". Instead of allowing the forces controlling what he called the "slave religions" of Christianity, Islam, etc., to determine what is right for each individual, he threw it back and said: you decide. In Thelema, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." But naturally there are forces who still oppose this idea, because they want to be able to tell you what is "Satan". To LaRouche, Satan is pretty close to the Catholic idea. But to fully answer your question about whether Crowley was a Satanist, I need to ask you: what does "Satan" mean to you? or do you think it's an actual physical human-shaped being?
Then maybe we can carry on this conversation.
chief spirit of evil and adversary of God; tempter of mankind; master of Hell;a jinn;A personification of the powers of evil;"Adversary", the devil, Lucifer, Bilial, Beelzebub, the Prince of darkness, the serpent.
HeliosMegistos - Aug 30, 2008 - 03:22 PM
Post subject: Gnurds on the Loose
quandary121 wrote: › AND YOU A CLEARLY A IDIOT .!!!! DONT BOTHER TO POST IN THIS FORUM... "clearly a troll" ... GIVE UP TRYING TO BE CLEAVER WITH ME...
I suppose this thread has not been locked because the Moderator, Peace and Blessings be unto his name, has decided that we need some weekend amusement.
A "Troll" has two meanings: (1) A grotesque creature that usually lives under a bridge, and (2) A phisherman who is dangling a mobile, baited hook, hoping that some phish will be foolish enough to bite.
Well, it is obvious (in this case) that this troll lives under the bridge that crosses the abyss, and that he is dangling many hooks in order to snare the enlightened membership of lashtal.
An extensive and profound analysis of this thread leads me to announce that Choronzon (Ompehda in nomine Babalon) has taken incarnation in the body and mind of quandary121, and that his/her main objective is to divert our attention from performing the Great Work.
The only way to deal with him (or her as the case might be) is through Silence.
But then, sometimes, it's fun to poke a troll with pointed sticks, as many lashtalians are doing. Perhaps he would like to volunteer to be the frog in the upcoming, revised Magus ritual.
sonofthestar@Gmail.com - Aug 30, 2008 - 03:47 PM
Post subject: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Pleased to met you, Quandary 121!
In your commencing posts, you listed many things (true or untrue) about 666, that gives "you" reason to hold him in contempt, as well as proclaim him essentially "evil".
Even if every allegation you offer were true, I can't for the life of me see how you can justify your view of him.
The problem is, that what "you" think to be bad, sinister, repulsive etc---is not evil at all!
The things you have chosen as "proof" of his terrible nature, only prove that you, have a very shallow, and superficial understanding of the nature of things in general ( such as the concept of evil ).
I would fancy to define "Evil" as --an ignorance that makes for terrible injustice, abuse, harm, etc, to others. Not only that, but it's expressive mode must be persistent in quality; quite beyond the play school variety.
If it is simply the result of an immature phase, the horror resultant from such actions born of ignorance--must truly tip the balancing scales--before we can justly proclaim it "evil".
For instance --the average school bully demanding lunch money, as compared to children (as well as adults) using my space type sites to harass other children so much that they commit suicide.
So, it behooves me not to "discuss" in depth such things with you, being that what you regard evil, and what I regard evil--are altogether different.
You see, most of the great horrific "evils" perpetrated by humans against other humans, have been perpetrated by those truly believing in "Satan" or "devils"-- and "Evil".
It is ironic, that these very tools of the slave gods, and their respective religions, having defined "evil" according to their sacred books and theologies---are in fact, really Evil !
Evil, being--the harmfully horrific outcome of such actions born from ignorance.
Love is the law, love under will.
Bringer_Of_Light - Aug 30, 2008 - 03:49 PM
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Sorry folks to those who are viewing this, but I just cant resist.................resisting temptation was never a strong point with me alas ........................
Im not gonna repeat what Sol2Sol said regarding receiving and publishing, obviously you're retarded sense of being able to differentiate between the two Quandary is slight askew shall we say..................
The point about Wikipedia and Crowleys introduction to the Golden Dawn...........no, actually, taken from the excellent and all-rounded Mr Kaczynksi's "Perdurabo" biography..................yet again make the distinction in regards to people who found a magickal order and those who have been introduced to it by others.....................you might want to actually purchase a copy of the afore-mentioned work, it may be the best scale-adjuster to the hoary old second hand bollocks that you're spouting off on...................
And in regards to the Albert Pike reply of yours, as soon as I seen the words "one world order", all my wallpaper started to crack from the richocets of my laughter......and pray tell, how do "we" (whatever encampment of escapees you're referring to who's breakout from the lab will no doubt soon be reported) know that they're definitely "demonic" visions? Like to give me some sources for this please? Preferably one's that dont have the stench of a failed British weatherman attached to them.
Too much fun man, too much fun
As for not caring about my offerings, no worries baby, Im still gonna ram them down your throat anyway..............because like the advert says "you're worth it".
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 03:58 PM
Post subject: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
Aleister Crowley advocated the Ouija board’s use as an occult tool .Crowley the Beast made a morality out of immorality
Crowley was a 33 Sovereign Grand Inspector General of the Scottish Rite and also held the 95 of the Rite of Memphis and the 90 of the Rite of Mizraim. While climbing up the Masonic ladder of success Crowley had been given the title by the Media of "the wickedest man alive". It can be documented that Crowley partook of and taught drug induced rituals that included perverted sexual acts, homosexuality, bestiality, and the eating of bodily emissions and excrement. Crowley who advocated blood sacrifice earned his other title "The Father of Modern Satanism".
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 04:04 PM
Post subject: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
33 Mason Aleister Crowley swore an oath at a Masonic Altar and the following is Crowley's oath to his Lord Satan:
The Oath of Fealty
I bind my blood in Satan's hands,
All this that lieth betwixt my hands,
To thee, the Beast, and thy control,
I pledge me; body, mind, and soul.(Aleister Crowley, Satanic Extracts, Black Lodge Publishing 1991)
As you can see, there are some very definite connections between Freemasonry and Satanism.
Another man who knows of those connections is the High Priest of the Church of Satan, Anton LaVey. In his book, The Satanic Rituals, LaVey acknowledges that Satanic Rituals are taken from Masonic elements, and almost all occult orders have Masonic roots:
Satanic Ritual is a blend of Gnostic, Cabbalistic, Hermetic, and Masonic elements, incorporating nomenclature and vibratory words of power from virtually every mythos.....
.....Masonic orders have contained the most influential men in many governments, and virtually every occult order has many Masonic roots. (Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Rituals, Avon Books 1972, p.21,78.)
In LaVey's Satanic Bible there are twelve calls or "keys" that are known as "The Enochian Keys". LaVey says that the Enochian calls are "the Satanic paens of faith" and that his source for the "keys" was the Golden Dawn.
I have presented my translation of the following calls with an archaic but Satanically correct unvarnishing of the translation employed by the Order of the Golden Dawn in the late Nineteenth Century. (Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Bible, Avon Books 1969, p. 155.)
quandary121 - Aug 30, 2008 - 04:09 PM
Post subject: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
(2 Corinthians 6:14-15 KJV) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? {15} And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
(2 Corinthians 6:17 KJV) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
Bringer_Of_Light - Aug 30, 2008 - 04:16 PM
Post subject: Re: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
quandary121 wrote: › Aleister Crowley advocated the Ouija board’s use as an occult tool .Crowley the Beast made a morality out of immorality
Crowley was a 33 Sovereign Grand Inspector General of the Scottish Rite and also held the 95 of the Rite of Memphis and the 90 of the Rite of Mizraim. While climbing up the Masonic ladder of success Crowley had been given the title by the Media of "the wickedest man alive". It can be documented that Crowley partook of and taught drug induced rituals that included perverted sexual acts, homosexuality, bestiality, and the eating of bodily emissions and excrement. Crowley who advocated blood sacrifice earned his other title "The Father of Modern Satanism".
Pity you lack the balls to admit you're mistakes as pointed out in previous posts, but, in the words of Dr Gonzo, ".........and yes folks here we go again".................
Father of modern Satanism....hmmmmm, I think J K Huysman done more than Crowley to promote that, albeit from a work of fiction, and a good one at that to be quite frank.
Freemason? (shakes head) You people got a real bug-a-boo about them ain't ya??!! Yep, the worlds got real monsters such as paedophiles, serial killers, rapists, lawyers et al and you Icke folks get really het up about a bunch of guys with a trouser leg rolled up? What a well defined set of priorities.
As for the homosexuality...............hey man, what can I say, don't knock it till you tried it. 
Ouija board? Not a particularly fave tool of AC admittedly on a regular basis shall we say, but he did recommend it as a potentially useful tool for others who may wish to make full use of it................................big deal.
In regards to stereotypes of the usual christian with a penchant for anti-illuminati propaganda, you're ticking all the right boxes here Quandary.
Now I see you're posting the Bible....................great. (sighs..............all of a sudden I found this discussion with you to have truly fallen down the well somehow)
michaelclarke18 - Aug 30, 2008 - 04:34 PM
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
This:-
http://www.youtube.com/user/Quandary121
is absolute rubbish and the incoherent ramblings of a fool. I found the large shouting ''brainwashing'' font style especially indicative of your whole attitude.
Camlion - Aug 30, 2008 - 04:54 PM
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
This sort of fellow represents a very large percentage of the population of the planet. The significance of this fact should never be underestimated. In future, anyone objecting to the some of the rather harsh tones taken in portions of Liber AL should be pointed to this thread. Kudos to Paul for his delaying locking it. 
Bringer_Of_Light - Aug 30, 2008 - 05:09 PM
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
michaelclarke18 wrote: › This:-
http://www.youtube.com/user/Quandary121
is absolute rubbish and the incoherent ramblings of a fool. I found the large shouting ''brainwashing'' font style especially indicative of your whole attitude.
93 Michael
Agreed, alas I couldn't stay on it for too long. The nauseating stench of prime, 100% certifable faecal matter was emanating from it a tad too much for my delicate nasal membranes to withstand.
Still, look on the bright side, it keeps Quandary off the streets at least. 
Camlion - Aug 30, 2008 - 06:07 PM
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
Bringer_Of_Light wrote: ›
michaelclarke18 wrote: › This:-
http://www.youtube.com/user/Quandary121
is absolute rubbish and the incoherent ramblings of a fool. I found the large shouting ''brainwashing'' font style especially indicative of your whole attitude.
93 Michael
Agreed, alas I couldn't stay on it for too long. The nauseating stench of prime, 100% certifable faecal matter was emanating from it a tad too much for my delicate nasal membranes to withstand.
Still, look on the bright side, it keeps Quandary off the streets at least.
93 "Bringer_Of_Light",
Unfortunately, it goes beyond just another life harmlessly wasted in service to an imaginary slave-god, a more benign form that is almost tolerable. This is the type of person likely to actively engage in thwarting the Will of another in that slave-god's name.
93 93/93
Camlion
Bringer_Of_Light - Aug 30, 2008 - 07:10 PM
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
Camlion wrote: ›
93 "Bringer_Of_Light",
Unfortunately, it goes beyond just another life harmlessly wasted in service to an imaginary slave-god, a more benign form that is almost tolerable. This is the type of person likely to actively engage in thwarting the Will of another in that slave-god's name.
93 93/93
Camlion
93 Camlion
Excellent point, however I do not fear that Quandary will ever get so far as to be part of the great Anti-Illuminati Revolution judging by the brilliant mistakes he's made so far in regards to even minor points regarding AC. Surely the Icke brigade/Christianty couldn't be so desperate as to use someone so unfit (even by slave standards) in a serious fight surely? If it does then they've reached really desperate levels. Ive debated christian fundamentalists before who had a better grip of stuff regarding Crowley's magickal history.
And dear Babalon, I felt filthy enough having to even debate them on it............Quandary just comes with a new flavour of dirt.
BlueKephra - Aug 31, 2008 - 12:28 AM
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Gnurds on the Loose
Whats all this nonsense about Anton Lavey? Anyone who takes that fairground hawker seriously deserves all the idiocy genes his or her small pool has to offer.
lashtal - Aug 31, 2008 - 12:32 AM
Post subject: Gnurds on the Loose
BlueKephra wrote: › Whats all this nonsense about Anton Lavey?
He's certainly of almost zero relevance to this site.
Adventicius - Aug 31, 2008 - 02:16 AM
Post subject: All the world is a Stage
Enflame thine self in Prayer, Please see a man who dedicated his whole life to the study of God.
Adventicius - Aug 31, 2008 - 03:02 AM
Post subject: Cast the first stone
Read it all and then read it again.
newneubergOuch - Aug 31, 2008 - 07:15 AM
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Boring,bbbbooorriinnngggg!!!!
This thread=Epic Fail.
gurugeorge - Aug 31, 2008 - 07:43 AM
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IBTL
shangren - Aug 31, 2008 - 02:35 PM
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ianrons wrote: › And please take note of how commas work before replying.
Grammar in general would be nice to see in my opinion, or even, I dunno, a grasp of the basic standards of written English. Reading that guy's posts gives me a headache.
Oh, here's a discussion, what kind of regrettable incident or habit could provoke behavior such as this? Off his medication? Unresolved childhood trauma? Brainwashing suffered during an ex-gay camp...
- Shangren
Camlion - Aug 31, 2008 - 02:55 PM
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shangren wrote: › Oh, here's a discussion, what kind of regrettable incident or habit could provoke behavior such as this? Off his medication? Unresolved childhood trauma? Brainwashing suffered during an ex-gay camp...
- Shangren
Behavior such as this is really so common, (not in this forum or in the Thelemic community - but outside in the lower realms), that this would probably be a reasonable line if inquiry.
lashtal - Aug 31, 2008 - 03:00 PM
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Everyone agreed that we gave this guy the opportunity to express himself and that he failed to take advantage of that opportunity?
Time now, I fear, to lock the thread...
lashtal - Aug 31, 2008 - 06:59 PM
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Apologies: I feel it's only appropriate to close this thread with a link to the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E10Bp_mPXXA