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Post subject: Re: what up my man?  PostPosted: Apr 28, 2008 - 03:29 PM



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"ihateswine" what, you got too much free time on your hands now? Welcome to the Monkey House that is lashtal.com

Keep jammin'

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Free time is my specialty! I thought you knew that. It's what I work so hard (NOT) for! Be sure to call when in the BA. I always want to hear from the only person who frightened me at NOTOCON!



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93 Eric,

themuhler wrote: › Actually it was one extended descriptive tale of how the regular eating of hashish "fingers" and smoking of opium during Magick rituals and ceremonies led to her own insanity
As I said, I think she was a remarkable lady. If for no other reason than the fact that she survived Cefalu! Anyway, thanks for the follow up.

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Post subject: Re: what up my man?  PostPosted: Apr 28, 2008 - 09:58 PM



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themuhler wrote: › Hello Zack,

Free time is my specialty! I thought you knew that. It's what I work so hard (NOT) for! Be sure to call when in the BA. I always want to hear from the only person who frightened me at NOTOCON!



YT 93, Love & Ecstasee, Babee!
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LOL yeah. HB was like, "you scared the hell out of my drummer".

bwahahaha.

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Post subject: Re: what up my man?  PostPosted: Apr 29, 2008 - 01:19 AM



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"ihateswine". HB was like, "you scared the hell out of my drummer".


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"ihateswine". HB was like, "you scared the hell out of my drummer".


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Post subject: Re: what up my man?  PostPosted: Apr 29, 2008 - 01:34 AM



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themuhler wrote: ›
ihateswine wrote: › . HB was like, "you scared the hell out of my drummer".


Zack


I'm a pianist. But you knew that.

Eric



Now see what becomes of hashish and opium parties?

Brain on Drugs.
 
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wonderful pictures of Ninette. She turned out to be a true survivor indeed. Thank you so much Mr. Muhler!
 
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According to John Symonds’ biography of Aleister Crowley (The Beast 666) published in 1997 Ninette Shumway died around 1930 (p.453). From the pictures uploaded by Mr Muhler, this was clearly not the case.
 
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It also stated that Leah had died in the 50's when it has been conformed, I tihnk, that she died in 1975 in Switzerland.
 
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Just to labour the point a little further, Martin Booth’s biography of Aleister Crowley (A Magick Life) published in 2000 also stated that Ninette died in the early 1930’s (p 414).
I wonder what evidence these biographers used when making such claims. Perhaps in this case they just relied on hearsay.
 
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I imagine that when someone vanishs from the scene rumor says that they passed on. I guess if every Crowley biographer thoroughly researched the lives of all of Crowley's deciples it would take a lifetime.
 
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93!
And please don't forget: Any surviving, sane and healthy lover of Crowley would destroy the often preferred image of "all his lovers committed suicide, went insane or died as alcoholics/druggies"... so maybe some biographers were not so eager to find out more...
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You know what, Lutz? I think you've got it right there. An ex-partner of Crowley living to a healthy and happy old age isn't particularly good for publicity...

Having said that, there is at least some evidence that Symonds, in particular, felt the need to protect the identity of at least one of Crowley's ladies: he disguised Leah's name behind a pseudonym in the first editions of his biography.

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lashtal wrote: › You know what, Lutz? I think you've got it right there. An ex-partner of Crowley living to a healthy and happy old age isn't particularly good for publicity...

This also brings to mind Rose's "downfall," which many point to AL III:43 as a prophecy fulfilled. But isn't there evidence that she had at least a few good years of post-asylum recovery (and even remarriage)?

I think there's another thread about this somewhere, but I can't find it.

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It is quite the honor to be introduced to you, Mr. Muhler. I have heard many a wonderful thing about you from many a person here at the Sekhet-Maat Lodge here in Portland when they met you at NOTOCON. It's truly a pleasure to have you here on the board.

On this somewhat similar note, is anyone reading this thread at all familiar with a grandson by the name of Richard Blackwell? He came to a local pagan shop here in town claiming to be a grandson of Crowley's himself, and looking to sell the two owners his line of essential oils as a product that the store now regularly carries, which I've used, and are not bad in their own right. Yet, a Google search turns up nothing on him, save for information regarding a fashion critic by the same name, which is not the same Richard Blackwell I'm speaking of. According to the storekeeper, he authored at least one occult book (who's name escapes me, though I saw her personal autographed copy there in the store) before closing up the occult shop he owned for a time here in Portland, Oregon, has since converted to Buddhism, and is either in the process of moving overseas or has already done so. That, however, is all the information I have on him, and none of it truly speaks to whether he was a grandson of Crowley's or not. Can anyone on the board vouch for whether he was a grandson of Crowley's or not?



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THE CROWLEY PERFUMES:
The beloved recursant of the Aquarian Age, and immanent scholar of tantric lore, "Saint Aleister" Crowley did dabble extensively in perfumery. Using musks and other sexually active fragrances available in his day, he created the following magickal-sexual perfumes, made from exclusive formulas handed down from Winnifred Otis-White, one of his "Scarlet Women", to Dr. Richard Blackwell, professional perfumer, and grandson of her and Crowley, and presented here:


http://www.cranemoon.com/descript.htm

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Never heard of Winnifred Otis-White, much less Richard Blackwell.

Crowley dabbled in... perfumery?
 
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Never heard of Winnifred Otis-White, much less Richard Blackwell.

Crowley dabbled in... perfumery?[/quote]

Hahaha....

Weeellll....

He dabbled (more than dabbled, really!) in art and poetry, too, two fairly romantic art forms in their own right....so why not? Then again, a great many of the oils mentioned on the site are created for the sake of having a rather great time with the gender of your choice, and he certainly was known for that! Wink

Interestingly, the line of oils carried in the store that are made by him are a line called "Red Dragon" essential oils, not Crane Moon . All of them are simply your basic essential oils, with no claims made to get one laid or do anything else, for that matter! Still, though, I've found some rather unusual oils in the line that denote to me that he does, at least on some level, know what he's doing....I came across galangal oil the other day when I went to the store seeking ingredients for Abramelin Oil that I was making. Perhaps he carries two different lines of oils? Hard to say...

And I would be curious to learn more about Winnifred Otis-White. I'll do some searching for her, and see what I can come up with

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h2h wrote: › Crowley dabbled in... perfumery?

Ruthvah.

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A PERFUME salesman? Now I've heard it all... Some people have (rarely) said my music stinks, but I've never sold perfume, thank nature.

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Post subject: Perfumery  PostPosted: May 14, 2008 - 03:26 PM



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It is perhaps worth noting that perfumery is one of many arts that grew out of alchemy, and this approach is still carried out by Black Phoenix Alchemy Labs. who include £hemetic alchemy" as one of their inspirations.

Please note that this is NOT a plug, all i know of them is that their perfumes are amazing and a cult on the internet, where collections of their tiny samplet bottles sell for considerable amounts on ebay!

http://www.blackphoenixalchemylab.com/

So less astoshment that Crowley dablled in perfumery, please!


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Dabbing it on profusely is not the same as dabbling in perfumery.
 
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Post subject: Re: Perfumery  PostPosted: May 15, 2008 - 05:00 AM



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So less astoshment that Crowley dablled in perfumery, please!


93 93/93

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Actually I wasn't astoshed at all that Crowley dablled, diblled, mastered or participated in perfumeration. I was astoshed that the grandson claimant was a perfume salesman.

Eric

YT 93, Love & Ecstasee, Babee! (No alchemee or perfumee, though thanks, no matter how astoshing it might be)

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