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Post subject: Leah Hirsig
 Posted: Feb 06, 2007 - 12:00 AM
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I extremely consider just to open an opinion space, contributes and to reflection dedicated to the most important woman in the life of Aleister Crowley, Leah Hirsig. This for three known reasons, first, we remember that she was the only person witness of the ascent of Aleister to the degree of Ipsissimus in 1921. Second, during approximately six years Leah almost stayed at he himself level that Crowley in the abbey of Thelema, as the baboon of Toth took to Crowley to make all its adventures, and third as John Symmonds says, from all the women who surrounded the life by single Therion she arrived more near her heart…
Leah in addition incarnates all the force and subtility, all the humanity of the philosophy of Thelema, and the joys and sadnesses that the search of the true will means. He had a multiplicity of facets, because she was woman and magician, mother, prostitut, worker, soñadora, but at heart a unit, Leah, Alostrael, “the chalice of God”. As no incarnated the “Beam which you want” turning it the dwelling of its spirit, in spite of the duro price that was called on to him to suffer after the rejection of Crowley.
Its life is extremely fascinating, I would like that all those that they wanted could contribute with interesting data, reflections, anecdotes and thoughts on her.
Leah deserves our affection and quiet respect.
If the biography of somebody serious the one of this so remarkable and captivating woman could write. I would like to know how where she is buried and in short, to scatter flowers on his present memory between us. I hope collaborate.
Thank you very much.
Leah Alostrael. |
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Posted: Feb 06, 2007 - 08:26 AM
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93!
I am sure some day there will be a biography of this astounding woman - or so she seems already from the little we know, which is more than from most of the other of Crowley's Scarlet Women. I think she was a lot more to him than the current occupant of this important office. There are some wonderful love poems dedicated to her. I am a hopelessly romantic idiot sometimes so I will quote one, not in full, since I have no idea about copyrights:
THE SOFT SPOT
There is a soft place near my shoulder
Which seems to have been made on purpose
For Leah's head - all night I hold her,
While Aphrodite's sparrows chirp us
Their impudently merry chorus
Whose timeless twitters never bore us.
[...]
O soft plump spot below my clavicle!
'Clavicula Salomonis Regis'
Contains less magick. The fierce Slavic Hell
Is not so hot, nor Liber Legis
More savagely inflammatory
Than Leah's hair in sunset glory!
Her diaries as far as I know them (they are still out there on the web to my surprise) are some of the "best" records of magicians I have encountered - because they are so humane in all respects. I really admire her.
I hope this "scrapbook thread" works out, Leahalostrael.
Love=Law
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Posted: Feb 06, 2007 - 12:23 PM
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Wow!!!, wonderful poem. From where you obtained it? It is really a lightening to know that to joint parties he himself feeling towards Leah. I thought that its figure was despised in the Thelema world... Nevertheless, we are children of the same magick mother!!
Thanks! the_real_simon_iff
I share the same opinion about dyaries, but I have read very little of them...
affectionately
(somebody knows where I can obtain its dyaries and in that place of the world is buried?) |
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Posted: Feb 06, 2007 - 08:09 PM
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| Leah is indeed fabulously interesting. If only I had five years to research a biography. I pray someone will write up her life and magical acts and techniques. |
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Posted: Feb 07, 2007 - 12:03 PM
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From what I could remember I think that she died in Switzerland as christian,
I saw some photos of her aged in Chicago in a private archive |
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Posted: Feb 07, 2007 - 01:46 PM
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the fact that he could bounce back like that and live till the 1970's is compelling.
When was she is CHigago? |
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Posted: Feb 07, 2007 - 04:05 PM
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| no, I said only that I've seen photos of her in a private archive in Chicago not that she was in Chicago |
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Posted: Feb 07, 2007 - 04:50 PM
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| Sorry. Thanks for the clarrification. |
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Posted: Feb 16, 2007 - 11:13 PM
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93, Hello.
Somebody knows details, or, can explain the famous episode on the attempt of copulación of Leah with a goat in the Abbey of Thelema.
What was tried to do?
Which was its meaning?
In which circumstances were made?
Thanks.
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Posted: Feb 23, 2007 - 08:20 PM
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Posted: Feb 23, 2007 - 09:05 PM
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leahalostrael wrote: › Somebody knows details, or, can explain the famous episode on the attempt of copulación of Leah with a goat in the Abbey of Thelema.
This was discussed on LAShTAL.COM's Forums in some detail back in November 2006, where I wrote:
Quote: › According to Symonds' "The Beast 666" - the final, "director's cut" edition of "The Great Beast" - the incident occurred at "the end of the summer", 1921. Mary Butts, allegedly witness to the event, or rather non-event if the account is to be believed, arrived at Cefalu at the end of June 1921.
It's one of the most frequently quoted of the more extreme incidents in Crowley's life, but there seems to be little evidence for it. Keith Richmond, in his book on Frank Bennett, describes Mary Butts' account of "the goat incident" as "questionable".
But it begs the question why Symonds made such an issue of it. His and Grant's edition of the 1914-1920 diaries includes Crowley's admission to, frankly, even darker extremes that would be far more damaging to the man's public image than the almost comical account of the unwilling goat, complete with it's "I'd have a bath if I were you" punchline.
Did the event happen? Who knows? I'm not aware of a definitive answer. And until the definitive answer is known, I see no reason to revise the view I expressed then:
Quote: › It's my personal opinion that such details are best discussed in a non-public forum which is what The Aleister Crowley Society seeks to achieve.
Paul
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Post subject: RE: Leah Hirsig
Posted: Apr 10, 2007 - 11:35 PM
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"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."
I realize it sounds rather outrageous, but I did a magical working starting December of 1999, evoking Alostrael. A certain manifestation informed me that I was her magical child; of course I renounced the assertion, insisting she died in 1951 as the biographers said, yet the "epiphany" (or whatever it was) disagreed, stating she lived until the Year of Thoth (which I took to be the 71st Year, as instructed).
The amazing thing is, without my knowledge, my girlfriend somehow got into contact with a member of the Hirsig family, who informed her that the family was clarifying the matter by revealing that Leah lived until 1975. Incredibly, this was the 71st Year of the Aeon, counting from 1904 e.v.
Here's a link to where you can find more pics of me...check out the unfortunate resemblance...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/satanaiwaz/
"Love is the law, love under will."
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Post subject: RE: Leah Hirsig
Posted: Apr 10, 2007 - 11:46 PM
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Aleisterion wrote: › Here's a link to where you can find more pics of me...check out the unfortunate resemblance...
I can't see any resemblance, unfortunate or otherwise. How long do I have to wait before the Lord Jesus restores my sight? Answers on a postcard, please, to the usual address. |
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Post subject: RE: Leah Hirsig
Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 12:09 AM
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You don't have to be so rude and objectionable...so you don't see a resemblance, very good, my wife does.
Why do you have to mock though? It's much easier to act the fool and mock something than it is to address the facts as presented -- which I thought were slightly interesting anyway.
Do you not believe in the possibility of magical children?
That's okay it's all in good fun...thank you Michael and have a happy feast day. |
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Post subject: RE: Leah Hirsig
Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 12:34 AM
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Aleisterion wrote: › so you don't see a resemblance, very good, my wife does.
Are you referring to the photo of the bloke on the main screen of your Yahoo group? The one in the armchair, pretending to be Crowley? |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 12:35 AM
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Quote: › Are you referring to the photo of the bloke on the main screen of your Yahoo group? The one in the armchair, pretending to be Crowley?
It certainly reminded me of someone not too far away right now... |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 12:38 AM
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| Ah, Aleisterion, I see you've just swapped it in the last couple of minutes for the standard Levi Baphomet image. Never mind... |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 12:42 AM
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Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 12:44 AM
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Ah, you're back again!
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Post subject: RE: Leah Hirsig
Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 12:44 AM
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No it's there...
bye guys, have a happy feast day. |
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Post subject: RE: Leah Hirsig
Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 01:18 AM
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| Yes well it was Halloween... |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 01:30 AM
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Now gentlemen..be nice.. 
Aleisterion, You have to understand, every so often, TOO often, Lashtal gets these posters making their claims to be the reincarnation of so and so, the magickal child of 'fill in the blank' or the relative of a famous 'take your pick' so it's become a bit...amusing. Dont take it personally. It's really like the classic "i'm the reincarnation of Cleopatra". Nobody was a peasant, everybody was Ramses III. See what I mean?
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Post subject: RE: Leah Hirsig
Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 01:36 AM
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I get it...it's okay it's all good.  |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2007 - 01:38 AM
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93!
Pardon my ignorance on the subject of Ms. Hersig, I too find her interesting,
Algoul: when you said she died in "Switzerland as christian" are you referring to religion here?
If I'm understanding correctly, where did you here this from? Quite confused really. . . Any insightful responses would be helpful.
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