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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 14, 2007 - 08:41 AM



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oneiros wrote: › This one also features Kenneth Grant on backing vocals.

I believe this to be apocryphal - perhaps Michael or David could resolve this oft-quoted tale once and for all...


No, it's quite true - I asked Grant in one of my letters, and he confirmed; the backing voices are a male and a female, the latter being (I believe, from memory) Janice Ayers - lady from the Sothis crew anyway. They recite the mantra 'Ar-a-go-go' etc from Samekh throughout the song, which is quite a feat in itself.

These things only sound apocryphal given Grant's relative degree of reclusiveness since the 80s; back in the 70s he was quite sociable with the OTO clique, out to the pub and so on. For a man who has traversed the uttermost abysses of the Mauve Zone, a trip to a dank Soho basement recording studio would have been as nothing.
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There's also some other Chakra tracks that were on an acetate in John Balance's collection, namely: Thelema and The Red, White and Black. There is a third track on the disc which is the Kenneth Grant chant without music.

Some other Crowley references:
Paul Roland has written a lot of highly amusing songs on vaguely esoteric themes. There's a song called Aleister Crowley on his album Gargoyles.

The Auters had a song called Satan Wants Me, inspired Robert Irwin's excellent book of the same title. (As an aside, does anyone know is Irwin's book is in any way semi-autobiographical? Certain minor things in the text suggest to me that he has had an involvement in the occult in the past.)

Regarding Zorn, recently there's been Moonchild, Magick, Rituals and IAO. I've only heard the last of these, but thought it pretty good (IIRC). The music varies between long eastern percussion pieces (Sex Magick), very minimal electronics (Clavicle of Solomon), and rock (Leviathan). The electronic part made me thing of those Mort Garson records (The Occult and Atararaxia: The Unexplained), although they're more generally occult themed than Crowley-related.

As we were talking about Grant, the work of my acquaintances English Heretic are dotted with references of qliphoth, tangental tantrums, and the like. The latest one seems to take Crowley's Amalantrah working and LAM portrait as a starting point.

Edit: Having mentioned Chakra and English Heretic, I find out tonight that a track on the latter's latest release also uses the Liber Samekh chant!


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oneiros wrote: › No, it's quite true - I asked Grant in one of my letters, and he confirmed... These things only sound apocryphal given Grant's relative degree of reclusiveness since the 80s

Thanks for adding some substance to a tale that was to my mind apocryphal not because of Mr Grant social activity but because I was told by someone involved in the distribution of this and other not dissimilar items that Grant wasn't involved.

Glad you could clear it up, though...

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Anticredos wrote: ›
Regarding Zorn, recently there's been Moonchild, Magick, Rituals and IAO. I've only heard the last of these, but thought it pretty good (IIRC). The music varies between long eastern percussion pieces (Sex Magick), very minimal electronics (Clavicle of Solomon), and rock (Leviathan). The electronic part made me thing of those Mort Garson records (The Occult and Atararaxia: The Unexplained), although they're more generally occult themed than Crowley-related.


Inspired by this thread, I bought Zorn's Moonchild. Patton's "singing" is extremely noisy and strange, just as I expected -- I think I like it!
 
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Check the Italian group Ain Soph particularly the Kshatriya Album. They do some material from The Heart of the Master

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xalhad wrote: › Check the Italian group Ain Soph particularly the Kshatriya Album. They do some material from The Heart of the Master


I'll check this out. I've decided to give them a second chance after the terrible debacle I witnessed in London a couple of years ago. Having heard a track of theirs some years ago which consisted of some pretty atmospheric chthonic drones I went to their gig expecting mind-expanding ritual music. Instead I witnessed a bunch of Italians in stupid shades and shirts playing absolutely awful guitar rock. I left within 10 minutes. I was only really there to see their support act, Andrew King, anyway!
 
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They have become, and remain as far as I can tell, "a bunch of Italians in stupid shades and shirts" The ritual stuff is what they put out in the late 80's early 90's. Ars Regia is pretty much all darksome drone. Kshatiya and Ars Regia is the only music I own by them, having been warned off the rest by others with experieces similar to your own.
 
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This is a problem I've found in my own music and the music in many others. When one first begins making music, one is not bound by concepts of artistry, competence or a rigidly defined aesthetic. Therefore the resultant music is more inuitive and inherently magical. What happens after the third or fourth album things usually get problematic, although few bands have sunk to the levels I witnessed on that night! I'll check out Kshatiya and Ars Regia, though.

Another artist in a similar vein I seem to remember was Sigillum S. I only ever got one album of theirs (Cybertantic Quantum Leaps) and remember being disappointed. However, having recently moved house I unearthed it and am just about to give it a spin.... I seem to remember the guy or an associate of his did a pretty terrible tarot set that looked as if it had been done on DeluxePaint.

Edit: Sigillum S - not as bad as I'd remembered - the fact that I could remember almost all the album (in spite of only hearing it a couple of times 10 years ago) is usually a decent indiction. Not great, by any standards, though!
 
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Raul Seixas, from Brazil.

Some references:

Sociedade Alternativa (Alternative Society):

"Go! Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law! The Law! (..) The number 666 is called Aleister Crowley"

Trem das Sete (Seven O'Clock Train):

"Comes from far giving the old aeon ashes"

A Lei (The Law):

(is Liber Oz singed)

A Maçã (Apple):

(about free love)

Gita:

(not Crowley but reference to Baghavad Gita's 10th Chapter)

Novo Aeon (New Aeon):

(.... and also the right to leave Jesus suffering...")

Some english musics:

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http://raul-seixas.letras.terra.com.br/letras/101460/

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Horemakhet wrote: › The band "Cathedral" has used the recording of Crowley reciting a Call of the Aethyr to great effect on the song Halo of Fire on the album VIIth Coming, but how involved any of them are is unknown to me. . .


I was going to mention this, and can confirm that singer Lee Dorian is very much involved with the occult in some way, not sure how though. Could just be a healthy interest or actually practices, though from listening to the other Cathedral albums, they are heavily influenced by all area's of Occult. My boyfriend speaks with him so will ask.

I also think Electric Wizard have a few references to AC too, but can't think off hand what they are right now.


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Edited to add. This Electric Wizard track and lyrics conjure up images of the man himself when I hear or read them.


From the album We Live

Eko Eko Azarak

Black pyramids under martian sun,
Priests chant ancient necropsalms,
Summon winds across the desert sands,
Sun sets on this dying land.
 
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John Frusciante (from the Red Hot Chili Peppers) has several solo records including 'Inside of Emptiness'. On his website he writes:

“Emptiness”, “I’m Around” and “666” were all written while I was reading a biography about Aleister Crowley. Each of these three songs, in their own way, are the result of me thinking about him and his life.

The title “666”, aside from being the name Aleister Crowley often signed letters as, is also a reference to the chorus' three bars of six which are interjected into the otherwise 4/4 feel of the song (something that was unintentional and subconscious)."
 
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Marilyn Manson's 'Misery Machine' song: 'We gotta ride to the Abbey of Thelema...'

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John Frusciante (guitarist of the red hot chili peppers) has also written a song about crowley titled 666 on his solo album "Inside of emptiness".
 
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The Current 93 song The Inmost Light makes an obvious reference to Edward Alexander Crowley in the lyric.

"Edward Alexander falls alone in some sad home and sees clearly now the Inmost Light."
 
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I was gonna mention Behemoth, their lyrics are 90 percent of the time referencing some aspect of occultism. They sometimes use an outside writer, but they have an album entitled Zos Kia Cultus, but it isnt centered specifically on Spare.With each song in the liner notes,they give an explanation, also something that Nile does, who have mainly an egyptian focus. Thelemic imagery is all over the place, also with goetic sigils too. Danney carey from Tool is a crowley nut, but I don't think too many references get into the music, though a strong occult connection was always present in their artwork and lyrics.

Also Today Is The Day did a split ep with another band that i cannot recall now, but the cover art features Crowley.
 
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This thread has certainly matured in to a fine collection of AC references in music.
Anyway, i thought i had vaguely heard of most references. These range form the blatant ones (Ozzy, Bowie, Page, etc) to the obvious (and countless) Death Metal references to the intelligent references (Coil, TG, Current 93 et al).
However, this one came to me from the blue...so to speak.
Was trawling the newsgroups for new tunes (as you do) and searched for Crowley, Anger, Grant, etc and found a track with a direct reference to AC.
The track is called "What Killed Aleister Crowley?" by The Direct Hits.
I have been a big music fan since my early teens (early to mid 80s) that has included a wide range of tastes from the 60's to the current day and have NEVER heard of this band. A search of these forums did not provide any results.
If you google the band name and song you will be sure to find it on the likes of last.fm. I did stumble across a blog page that had the whole album available for download (it now being deleted presumably). Sadly i cant seem to find it again.

And what of the song....well it aint bad...but not the best. Think of the kind of bands around the time around the mid to late 70's (like Eddie & The Hot Rods and The Only Ones) and its in a similar vein ..but not as tuneful im afraid.
Certainly beats the awful Klaxons!

Keep them coming.
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"Was trawling the newsgroups for new tunes (as you do) and searched for Crowley, Anger, Grant, etc and found a track with a direct reference to AC.
The track is called "What Killed Aleister Crowley?" by The Direct Hits."
I seem to remember David Tibet reviewing this 'un when he was a journalist at "Sounds" in the early Eighties. He hated it.
I have a 7" by The Mothmen - Does it Matter Irene/Please Let Go on Absurd Records, a Manchester indie release circa 1979. Label A states "Mothmen for New Aeon Music" whilst the B side has, rather cryptically "All instruments, personnel and machines tuned to the 93rd current". They were an offshoot from Manchester satirists Alberto Y Los Trios Paranoias and were pretty terrific until Charlie Drake joined and they morphed [warped?] into the appalling Simply Bland, er, I mean Red.
 
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The Crowley spoken word cd has been re-issued again.Couldn't isolate a link from the Aquarius website for just that item so I'll just copy/paste the blurb here.
"Folks had been bugging us to track down this disc for ages, Black Magic Recordings by none other than the "wickedest man in the world" (at least when he was still OF this world), but we hadn't been able to figure out where to get them. We assumed it must have been released on some tiny obscure microlabel, or maybe it was a bootleg or something, but lo and behold, it was right under or noses, released on good old Cleopatra Records. Home to much modern goth and industrial. And while we can definitely see how this stuff might appeal to the industrial goth kids, it is evil after all, and black magic, but it seems to us the folks that would be way more into this, are aQ customers, fans of the obscure and mysterious, found sounds and field recordings, this would fit perfectly between your Conet Project and your Ghost Orchid disc of EVP recordings (depending, we guess, on what strange alien alphabetization you use).
These recordings have been available before in various quasi bootleg editions, probably most notably as 1910-1914 Wax Cylinder Recordings released on the Transparency label. But they are the same recordings, since these are the only recordings of Crowley in existence.
It's been a while since we listened to the Transparency disc, but these tracks definitely sound a little cleaned up, which is almost too bad, but fear not, there's still plenty of hiss and crackle and warble and buzz and fuzz, it's taken from wax cylinders after all. Basically, this is a collection of Crowley recording various stories, poems, writings, incantations and magical spells. His delivery very songlike, chantlike at times, fans of the Doomsday Cult recordings will also probably love this. The highlight probably being the Call Of The Aethyr tracks, each delivered both in English, but also in Enochian, a magical language supposedly discovered and used by John Dee, magician to the court of Queen Elizabeth. It may sound like speaking in tongues, but it is in fact a real language, with grammar and syntax, rumored to be a degenerate form of the language spoken in the lost city of Atlantis.
Comes in one of those new fangled rounded-corner jewel cases, includes extensive liner notes, nothing about the recordings, but a fairly comprehensive history of Crowley's life. And while they last, it also comes with an Aleister Crowley patch AND pin! "

Also I recently had the misfortune to see the film "House of 1000 Corpses", made by that Rob Zombie fella. I'm pretty sure that Crowleys voice is used as part of the soundtrack towards the end, in the mad peoples house, I think its the Pleasure-Dome poem by someone i can't recall the name of right now....

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And another pimping of Coil, as their new old CD "The New Backwards" just arrived in the post. Track 7 is called "Paint Me As A Dead Soul". Hopefully no further explanation is necessary. It's not actually one of my favourite tracks on the CD, that honour goes to "Nature Is A Language", "Copacaballa", and "Princess Margaret's Man In The D'Jamalfna".

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