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Posted: May 01, 2008 - 03:48 PM
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This book is still hovering just outside the circles of time. However, production is well advanced albeit running a little later than anticipated, and so entry into our space-time continuum is tantalisingly close. The standard is now scheduled for delivery to the gothic turrets of Starfire Publishing by mid-May. Specialist binding of the deluxes will take up to another month.
All orders for the standard will be despatched within two or three days of my receiving them.
Set the controls for the heart of the sun . . .
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Posted: May 01, 2008 - 05:09 PM
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Thanks for that update, Micheal, I've been haunting my P.O. in anticipation... guess I'll hold off breating down the back of their necks...  |
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Posted: May 01, 2008 - 06:40 PM
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MichaelStaley wrote: › The standard is now scheduled for delivery to the gothic turrets of Starfire Publishing by mid-May. Specialist binding of the deluxes will take up to another month.
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
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Posted: May 01, 2008 - 10:55 PM
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| Shifting, dynamic - alivelines! |
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Posted: May 01, 2008 - 11:01 PM
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| I just *know* that it'll be worth the wait. |
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 03:59 AM
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Mr. Staley:
Thanks for the update, it has assuaged my anxiety ..'tis money well spent...and worth the wait.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 11:44 AM
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Quote: › My only complaint was that the illustrations were printed on the page, instead of having been tipped-in (or pasted in) plates as they were in the 1st Ed., and that the metallic golds and silvers were not as shiny and vibrant as in the 1st Ed.
I'm surprised you say that, because the Skoob edition colour plates were very cheap and cheerful (especially when compared with the crisply defined pics in the Fulgur version). Most likely reason they were tipped-in was not for reasons of style, but to keep costs down by not printing the whole book as a colour job.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 12:21 PM
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oneiros wrote: › I'm surprised you say that, because the Skoob edition colour plates were very cheap and cheerful (especially when compared with the crisply defined pics in the Fulgur version). Most likely reason they were tipped-in was not for reasons of style, but to keep costs down by not printing the whole book as a colour job.
That's not so. When Skoob produced the book they used tipped-in plates because that's how Steffi Grant wanted them. With many more illustrations in the Fulgur expanded edition, tipped-in plates became simply less practical.
Doubtless the plates in the Skoob edition are not reproduced to the same standard as in the Fulgur edition, due in no small part to more modern printing techniques. However, I don't regard the plates in the Skoob edition as being "cheap and cheerful"; I thought they looked good and were done with care. No matter how good the Fulgur edition is, there's no need to denigrate the Skoob edition I would have thought.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 12:51 PM
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Would You give us a list about the numbers "out of order" of the deluxes?
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 01:08 PM
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moyal wrote: › Would You give us a list about the numbers "out of order" of the deluxes?
Just for "qabalistic interrest"?

No. I have other, rather more pressing things to do with my time, thanks.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 01:26 PM
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Whould it be *THAT* hard?
I just want to "play" with my number!
But to do that, I need some "grounding"...
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 05:14 PM
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| Wot's 'tipped in ' then ? - Selotape ?? |
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 05:35 PM
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JohnS wrote: › Wot's 'tipped in ' then ? - Selotape ??
The illustration is printed separately and then attached to the required surface with a line of adhesive such as glue, usually to the reverse top edge.
I bought on ebay a few weeks ago a book about Blake published in 1945, with a dozen or so tipped in plates that are of amazing quality. This method of displaying plates in a book is becoming less common as the years flit by, due primarily to changes in printing technology. Tipping-in is more labour intensive, too.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 06:23 PM
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Michael, thanks for explanation, 'scuse my ignorance. I love books (especially our kind) but am not aware of the finer points.
Check out my photo of a LAM stone I found.Image in the Misc Galleries, if the Rotters allow me to display it ! - Anyone else also, of course - hope I was pc there !
Love,as always, is the Law.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 08:42 PM
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MichaelStaley wrote: › JohnS wrote: › Wot's 'tipped in ' then ? - Selotape ??
The illustration is printed separately and then attached to the required surface with a line of adhesive such as glue, usually to the reverse top edge.
It used to be in the 40's (maybe earlier) until well into the 70's (or later) that most of the finer art reproduction books had their plates placed in this manner. That was one of the nice things about that edition, I'm fairly certain that's the last art book I ever saw that had its plates done like that. |
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 08:55 PM
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JohnS wrote: › Image in the Misc Galleries, if the Rotters allow me to display it !
The "Rotters", alas, are no more. Now it's just me, which means there's no one left for me to blame.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 09:13 PM
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it's just me
Ahem.
I'd like to see your Charter, Paul.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 10:04 PM
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Dear Lonely Rotter,
I do hope that you can bring yourseltf to post my picture.
I am sorry for your loss.
Shoud you care to venture, you will find rotters everywhere and anywhere. Well, such has been my experience.
I remember rotting on my own a while ago.
Then something disturbed me.
So I recalled posting the picture.
Assisst my atempt at eternity.
We have all been here before.
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Posted: May 02, 2008 - 10:20 PM
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JohnS wrote: › We have all been here before.
Best to whisper it . . . the partition walls between threads are paper thin around these parts . . . You don't want any hessle, do you . . . |
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Posted: May 03, 2008 - 03:16 AM
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Excellent,
I'm definitely going to save up for it. This is one of the most recondite & obscure of Kenneth Grant's Works (just got the image of being it being akin to B.O.C.'s "Secret Treaties" album). I recall being plummeted into an obscure outer dimension myself upon reading it via college loan a decade ago. It is one of my favorites of his.
I myself also think it might actually be talismanic in an Advaita Vedanta sense, as the title invokes that stream of contemplation. However, I could not recommend it over Nisargadatta's "I Am That" in this regard  |
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Posted: May 21, 2008 - 08:23 AM
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Is there any further news on "Outside..."? Has the standard edition been dispatched yet? I'm patiently awaiting it in Yokohama!
Also, is it really the case that "Against the Light" has sold out of it's first run? Too bad if so, the recent discussion has piqued my interest! |
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Posted: May 21, 2008 - 11:54 AM
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The standard edition of Outside the Circles of Time has still not been delivered to me from the printers, I'm sorry to say. The printing was completed last week, and it is being bound as we speak.
I am hoping that it will be delivered later this week. Only then will the specialist bookbinders start work on the deluxes.
I'm sorry about this further delay. I will post an update when I have a solid date for delivery.
Yes, Against the Light is - after eleven years - out of print.
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Posted: May 21, 2008 - 01:21 PM
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Thanks for the update Michael. Looking forward to my copy, along with the Fulgur special edition of "The Valley of Fear", another delayed printing! Am sure they will both be worth the wait though.
Too bad about "Against the Light", had no idea it had been out so long! |
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Posted: May 21, 2008 - 05:57 PM
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I have had word from my printers that the standard edition will be delivered to Starfire Towers this Friday, 23rd May. Hurrah!!!
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