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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 09:03 AM
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 09:43 AM
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Congratulations for the launch Michael,
Wish I could make it, but cannot leave Aphrodites grip...as it turns into something Hecateain.
Many thanks for the 'special number' that you reserved for my deluxe edition.
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 11:51 AM
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magispiegel wrote: › Wish I could make it, but cannot leave Aphrodites grip...
Who amongst us would wish to tear ourselves away from Aphrodite's grip? |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 09:53 PM
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uranus wrote: › What is next on the Grant re-issues . . .
The next one will be The Magical Revival, possibly later this year but more likely early next year.
uranus wrote: › . . . and when are we getting something from you that isn't an article in Starfire . . .
Within the next year or two.
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Michael. |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 11:40 PM
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Michael, you tease us !!!
So, the next burning question is ..........
When can we expect, Starfire ???
Most beautiful, most exalted, journal of the living current.
It has been a long time.
You've got 'till 23/12/12
Or so the Olmec told the Maya.
The hole in my shoe is letting in water.
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Posted: May 31, 2008 - 11:50 PM
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I wonder if anyone here might want to give those of us unable to attend the launch tonight a bit of an overview? I'm sure it went well and all had a great time but you know....details are fun, pictures are even better.
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Post subject: RE: Time and Other things
Posted: Jun 01, 2008 - 09:17 AM
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| I think it all went rather well, the wine was reasonably priced and there were various Kenneth Grant first editions on display. People prominent in all of the 3 OTOs that are active in the capital were there along with Psychic Questers and other denizens of the London occult scene - some of the Questers had travelled a long way for it. Cuvalwen and I, along with Andy Collins, got trapped in the smoking alley during the talk and possibly some sort of meditation, and got blamed for noise coming from people outside Sofra upstairs, but it was perfectly civilised, no-one was running around waving charters at people and a good time was had by all. Well done Starfire. |
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Posted: Jun 01, 2008 - 08:23 PM
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| How much time did it take KG to write Outside the Circles of Time, from start finish? Mick? Anyone? -Camlion |
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Posted: Jun 01, 2008 - 11:54 PM
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Camlion wrote: › How much time did it take KG to write Outside the Circles of Time, from start finish? Mick? Anyone? -Camlion
I don't know; this isn't something I have discussed with him. There was a three-year gap between the publication of Nightside of Eden in 1977 and that of Outside the Circles of Time in 1980. There are some references in Nightside which seem precursory of some of the themes in Circles. However - and it is my uninformed opinion - the majority of the book would have been written in a short period of time - a few months, probably.
Grant has always struck me as an inspirational writer, in the sense that a book arises from a current of inspiration rather than him thinking "What on earth can I write about in my next book?". There's probably a short time, therefore, between inspiration and execution.
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Posted: Jun 02, 2008 - 09:47 AM
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adonia444 wrote: › I wonder if anyone here might want to give those of us unable to attend the launch tonight a bit of an overview? I'm sure it went well and all had a great time but you know....details are fun, pictures are even better. 
Unaccustomed though I am to blowing my own trumpet - as the bishop said to the actress - I thought the evening went very well. Unfortunately, Caroline forgot her digital camera, and I didn't notice any other paparazzi there, so there may be no pictures.
Caroline spoke about how she first came to publish Kenneth Grant whilst at Skoob. I read out a couple of short appreciations of Kenneth Grant, one from Margaret Ingalls (Andahadna/Nema), the other from Henrik Bogdan, and then read out the closing paragraphs of the Introduction to Circles as capturing the essence of Grant's style as a writer:
Kenneth Grant wrote: › One final point is here relevant, and I state it without apology. It is not my purpose to try to prove anything; my aim is to construct a magical mirror capable of expressing some of the less elusive images seen as shadows of a future aeon. This I do by means of suggestion, evocation, and by those oblique and ‘inbetweenness concepts’ that Austin Spare defined as ‘Neither-Neither’. When this is understood, the reader’s mind becomes receptive to the influx of certain concepts that can, if received undistortedly, fertilize the unknown dimensions of his consciousness. In order to achieve this aim a new manner of communication has to be evolved; language itself has to be reborn, revivified, and given a new direction and a new momentum. The truly creative image is born of creative imagining, and this is - ultimately - an irrational process that transcends the grasp of human logic.
It is well known that scientists and mathematicians have evolved a cryptic language, a language so elusive, so fugitive, and yet so essentially cosmic that it forms an almost qabalistic mode of communication, often misinterpreted by its own initiates! Our position is not quite as desperate, for we are dealing primarily with the body-mind complex in its relation to the universe, and the body-aspect is deeply rooted in the soil of sentiency. Our minds may not understand, but in the deeper layers of subconsciousness where humanity shares a common bed, there is instant recognition. Similarly, a magician devises his ceremony in harmony with the forces he wills to invoke, so an author must pay considerable attention to the creation of an atmosphere that is suitable for his operations. Words are his magical instruments, and their vibrations must produce not a merely arbitrary noise, but an elaborate symphony of tonal reverberations that trigger a series of increasingly profound echoes in the consciousness of his readers. One cannot over-emphasize or over-estimate the importance of this subtle form of alchemy, for it is in the nuances, and not necessarily in the rational meanings of the words and numbers employed, that the magick resides. Furthermore, it is very often in the suggestion of certain words not used, yet indicated or employed by other words having no direct relation to them, that produce the most precise definitions. The edifice of a reality-construct may sometimes be reared only by an architecture of absence, whereby the real building is at one and the same time revealed and concealed by an alien structure haunted by probabilities. These are legion, and it is the creative faculty of the reader - awake and active - that can people the house with souls. So then, this book may mean many things to many readers, and different things to all; but to none can it mean nothing at all, for the house is constructed in such a manner that no echo can be lost.
Then Caroline spoke again about Grant's work, and led a toast to Kenneth and Steffi Grant and the republication of this book. She had bought along a cake decorated for the occasion with a spider's web similar to that on the jacket of the book, and many of us helped ourselves to a sliver, albeit with a shiver.
The whole evening was great. Many thanks to Christina at Treadwells for hosting it, to Julia and Paul for their help over the course of the evening, to Ben Fernee for transporting us and our stock of books to and fro, to Lashtal for publicising the occasion, and to all who attended and made it such a success.
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Posted: Jun 02, 2008 - 10:13 AM
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| I wish I could have been at the event! But receieving my copy in Yokohama today makes me anything but a dull boy... Of course the printing is up to the usual high standard and I look forward to reading the text. Congratulations once again Starfire, I can't wait for the next issue of the magazine and the next Grant reprint. |
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Posted: Jun 02, 2008 - 02:12 PM
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Sounds like it was a great night. I really want to see that cake.
darkflame, have you received your book? I'm so jealous! Can't wait for mine to arrive at the door. |
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Posted: Jun 02, 2008 - 02:25 PM
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It will only be a few more days. There was a huge number of pre-publication orders that have to be packaged and despatched. I'm working through them, but since I have a full-time job they are going out a few at a time. As it is, my dreams are filled with jiffy bags and cardboard packaging - just part of the glamour of being a publisher, I'm told.
As ever, I understand the desire to have these books as soon as possible after such a long wait. All remaining orders should be shipped in the course of this week.
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Posted: Jun 02, 2008 - 03:00 PM
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Michael:
I totally sympathise with you and your situation and I don't think anyone would be able to complete this shipment as efficiently as you.
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 05:44 PM
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I just received my copy of Circles and, from the second I opened the cover and saw "new" art by Steffi Grant (Block prints at that! Personal prejudice perhaps but glorious to see her work in this medium!), was astounded at what a truly wonderful and amazing job was done with the "redux." I couldn't believe how WHITE the pages were (just got used to the old edition's yellow-brown, I suppose...). That and the new typesetting made even old familiar passages read with a new feel. The interior artwork is redone with some of the old images enhanced and in color as well as spotlighting yet MORE previously unseen art by Steffi Grant (exploring the theme of nymph and faun in blockprint, and pen and ink). Really wonderful stuff to have included in this edition.
Of course, the original text of Circles is worthy of read after read and like a true work of art continues to yield up new vision with each visit. In my opinion, a truly significant contribution to the field of Magick in general and Thelema in particular.
Kudos to Starfire for a superb job in bringing this tome back to the fore!
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 06:24 PM
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My copy arrived today as well. I've only just been able to give it a quick glance, as the demands of work and family have (as of yet) prevented from having more than just a few minutes to peruse it, but I look forward to delving deeper this evening.
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 06:28 PM
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defile959 and Kyle,
Thanks for your appreciative remarks.
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 06:48 PM
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Great to hear from you Kyle.
kidneyhawk wrote: › I couldn't believe how WHITE the pages were (just got used to the old edition's yellow-brown, I suppose...)
If ever a book was famous for its poor choice of paper, that was the one!
My copy's arrived and I agree: it's a strikingly attractive book and the plates are extraordinary. And it is very white.
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What's it behind, Paul?
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Posted: Jun 04, 2008 - 09:55 PM
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lashtal wrote: ›
If ever a book was famous for its poor choice of paper, that was the one!
I have to admit I sort of liked the quality of the paper. This is sort of childish, but it made the tome seem more ... well ... tomelike ... like a very rare and old book ...
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Posted: Jun 05, 2008 - 05:17 PM
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It will be very rare! That high acid content is destroying the paper's pulp base, that's what causing the yellowing, which will soon become crumbling.. just like the "pulp" magazines of the 20's and 30's... I've got a lot of cheaper books from the war-era 30's & 40's with the same problems...
Eagerly anticipating the new edition here in Texas... can't wait to see those new illustrations! Cool! |
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Posted: Jun 06, 2008 - 02:48 AM
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| Want to talk about cheap ass paper? FIre & Ice from Llewellyn, my copy is already browning at the edges. Thank the stars that another edition is available. |
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