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Post subject: Outside the Circles of Time - update
 Posted: Feb 21, 2008 - 12:07 PM
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This republication has taken somewhat longer to prepare than originally envisaged, but is now almost ready to go to the printers for publication at the end of March. Once it has gone to press, we'll be sending out flyers to all on our mailing list, detailing the republication and inviting orders ahead of publication.
The text has been reset, and the section of plates has been expanded from 16 to 20 pages. Some of the artwork reproduced in the 1980 edition is now in colour, and there is in addition some previously unpublished artwork by Steffi Grant. There are also illustrated endpapers. As with all our titles, as well as the standard edition there will be a limited, deluxe edition.
Should anyone wish to be placed on our mailing list, and thus be subject to our fawning solicitations, please email us at:
starfire.books@btinternet.com
or, if you prefer putting pen to paper:
Stafire Publishing Ltd.,
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Posted: Feb 21, 2008 - 02:33 PM
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Thank you for this excellent news Michael.
Been waiting a while for this one.
Some of the artwork from 80's edition in colour? Previously unpublished artwork by Steffi? Oh yeah...yummy |
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Posted: Feb 21, 2008 - 03:57 PM
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| Excellent news.....been waiting a long time! |
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93 Mick,
Congratulations on the publishing, but there goes the value of my 'rare' 1980 edition! 
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Great news. Been after it since 1993. Must remember to practice that Bibliophiliac Siddhi  |
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| Very cool! I've been waiting for this one!!! |
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Dear Michael,
Wonderful news! I looking forward to receive the new edition of "Outside the Circles of Time", when my old Muller-copy has become quiet "yellow" from all the Qliphotic slime its seems to have attract over the years! An interesting work indeed, remembering a summer when me an my mother was traveling trough Sweden with an old broken car and the only book I had to read was Grant´s Typhonian Gnosis; I memorable journey indeed. Mr. Grants reference to Michael Bertiaux thoughts on abbé Boullan really introduce me to works as: Joanny Bricaud´s - L´abbé Boullan - sa vie, sa doctrine et ses pratiques magiques (1927).
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Just got confirmation on my copies (one of the 1389 regular copies, and one of the 111 Limited Ed). I reccomend contacting them ASAP at starfire.books@btinternet.com to confirm that the edition you want is still avialable, and paying by Paypal, that seems to be the quickest way to guarantee you'll get one or the other (or both).
And as there's only 1500 copies of this edition available, it'll sell out quick. I doubt if it will affect the price of your 1980 first ed. much, or for long, Camlion! |
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| What does the price come out to in American dollars? |
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93 Walterfive'
Walterfive wrote: › Just got confirmation on my copies (one of the 1389 regular copies, and one of the 111 Limited Ed). I reccomend contacting them ASAP at starfire.books@btinternet.com to confirm that the edition you want is still avialable, and paying by Paypal, that seems to be the quickest way to guarantee you'll get one or the other (or both).
And as there's only 1500 copies of this edition available, it'll sell out quick. I doubt if it will affect the price of your 1980 first ed. much, or for long, Camlion!
Good news for me! But I do wonder why so small an edition. It would seem that the demand would higher than that. Mick?
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It's a very good question, Camlion; thank you for asking it, and giving me the opportunity of responding.
Firstly, I think that you might be overestimating demand. Beyond the Mauve Zone and The Ninth Arch were published in an edition of 1000 each, and took several years to go out of print. Pre-publication orders of Outside the Circles of Time are healthier than either titles, but I still think that an edition of 1500 will remain in print for a few years to come. Should the edition sell out fast than envisaged, then I have the typeset files and can commission a reprint. I will lose a bit due to the economies of scale, but not a great deal.
Ours is, to be honest, a small pond in terms of demand. Were it not so, then major publishers would be competing for these titles. As it is, they are left for us small run publishers, which I personally am very glad about because I do not think that a major publisher would pay quite as much attention to detail.
Needless to say, Camlion, I would be utterly delighted to be proved wrong with the edition selling out in six months. It would, as Clint might have said, make my day.
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MichaelStaley wrote: ›
Firstly, I think that you might be overestimating demand. Beyond the Mauve Zone and The Ninth Arch were published in an edition of 1000 each, and took several years to go out of print.
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Needless to say, Camlion, I would be utterly delighted to be proved wrong with the edition selling out in six months. It would, as Clint might have said, make my day.
Perhaps we might be overestimating demand. But I didn't find either Beyond the Mauve Zone or The Ninth Arch to be one-half (or less) the book Outside the Circles of Time is. I don't don't own either one of those titles, and I happily let my ex-wife keep Hecate's Cauldron (as not to break up her set) in our property division.
Frankly, I'd given up on Mr. Grant as a writer for over a decade precisely because of the titles you mention (along with Hecate's Cauldron), although Zos Speaks - Encounters With Austin Osman Spare and more recently Hidden Lore, Hermetic Glyphs have forced me to revise my opinion. Zos Speaks is the book we were waiting for Mr. Grant to write since the conclusion of the *first* Typhonian Trilogy, and the new edition of Hidden Lore is such an expansion of the original Carfax Monographs edition in 1989 (which I proudly own) that it scarcely can be considered a reprint, IMNSHO. My only complaint was that the illustrations were printed on the page, instead of having been tipped-in (or pasted in) plates as they were in the 1st Ed., and that the metallic golds and silvers were not as shiny and vibrant as in the 1st Ed. Small points compared the excellent paper quality, binding, and especially the expanded content.
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It's largely a matter of taste, Walterfive. My favourite Grant is the final trilogy - Outer Gateways, Beyond the Mauve Zone, and The Ninth Arch - and I consider that Outside the Circles of Time paves the way for this final trilogy.
When Circles first came out in 1980, I didn't like it at all. At that time I considered Grant's best work to be The Magical Revival and Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. It remained my opinion until the late 1980s, when I was asked to write a one-page introduction or forward to the Statement on Lam that was due to be published in the third issue of Starfire. Whlist following up the index entries for Lam in the various volumes, I would come across passages in Circles which I found inspirational, and made me wonder (actually, my mind boggled) at my earlier dismissal of the book. Across the intervening years, my own magical and mystical experiences meant that these passages now fell onto fertile soil. As a matter of interest, it's always great to read again a book which you last read several years ago, and understand things that were incomprehensible before. It's my experience with mystical and magical work that one's understanding or insight is constantly changing - the old Maoist notion of permanent revolution springs to mind.
The next republication will be The Magical Revival, a projected publication date of which will be set before too much longer. Thank for your good wishes, which are much appreciated.
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MichaelStaley wrote: › It's largely a matter of taste, Walterfive.
Oh, ENTIRELY a matter of taste! 
MichaelStaley wrote: › My favourite Grant is the final trilogy - Outer Gateways, Beyond the Mauve Zone, and The Ninth Arch - and I consider that Outside the Circles of Time paves the way for this final trilogy.
Yes, I can see how you might be of that opinion that it paves the way for them. I found much in them to be an elaboration on on Outside the Circles of Time but some of the matters he relates are rather more fantastic than I find credible, and if some of those workings he related as occurring in the 50's *actually* occurred, I wondered why he didn't mention them earlier somewhere in his first six books... And frankly, (tongue in cheek here) if one of *my* Priestesses' souls was devoured by a tentacled creature from the Mauve Zone, I don't think I'd call the working 'a success.' l
MichaelStaley wrote: › When Circles first came out in 1980, I didn't like it at all. At that time I considered Grant's best work to be The Magical Revival and Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God. It remained my opinion until the late 1980s, when I was asked to write a one-page introduction or forward to the Statement on Lam that was due to be published in the third issue of Starfire. Whlist following up the index entries for Lam in the various volumes, I would come across passages in Circles which I found inspirational, and made me wonder (actually, my mind boggled) at my earlier dismissal of the book.
That *very* subject (about LAM) is what makes it such an important book, IMNSHO. Frankly, I think that Mr. Grant's revelations concerning LAM, Enochian "Angels" and the Greys are the most important part of his Gnosis, and will have the greatest impact of all of his work to future generations. It's certainly the aspect of his work that's had the greatest impact on several friends/writers I know, and the greatest impact on me, personally.
So I'm looking forward to re-reading it. I'll certainly keep your respected opinions in mind when I do.
MichaelStaley wrote: › Across the intervening years, my own magical and mystical experiences meant that these passages now fell onto fertile soil. As a matter of interest, it's always great to read again a book which you last read several years ago, and understand things that were incomprehensible before. It's my experience with mystical and magical work that one's understanding or insight is constantly changing - the old Maoist notion of permanent revolution springs to mind.
The next republication will be The Magical Revival, a projected publication date of which will be set before too much longer. Thank for your good wishes, which are much appreciated.
Excellent! Looking forward to that one! I expect that one will sell out very quickly! My ex-wife got all of Mr. Grant's works in our divorce settlement, and that's another volume that needs replacing, I've been making "do" with a PDF File print-out of it until I could locate a copy of the reprint (in any condition) for under $70. Been looking for 4 years now, and no luck so far... so I'll be perfectly happy to purchase a couple of copies from you instead! I trust there'll be a limited edition? :drool:
And I completely agree with you that one's understanding and insight is constantly changing (or *should be* if one is to be mentally healthy). I pointed out to a friend of mine just last week that if one has the same opinions at age 40 that one had at age 20, one was probably suffering from arrested development, and stunted intellectual and emotional growth.
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93 Walterfive,
When I first read 'Circles,' which was a very long time ago now, I read it all in one sitting. This was certainly exceeding the recommended dosage! It is the best of the lot, IMO.
I have never lost a valued book to a divorce settlement, I've had two, so far; sooner the other property than the books.
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Camlion wrote: › 93 Walterfive,
When I first read 'Circles,' which was a very long time ago now, I read it all in one sitting. This was certainly exceeding the recommended dosage! It is the best of the lot, IMO.
I have never lost a valued book to a divorce settlement, I've had two, so far; sooner the other property than the books.
A magician after my own heart!
Ah, but you've probably never been married to a previously widowed Scarlet Woman... the Typhonian books were her late husband's, not joint property.
Besides, he was an immensely talented Magician, not a man I'd want to piss off, even after his Greater Feast! 
You read it all in one setting? *Definitely* exceeding reccomended dosage!!
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There are now no more deluxes of Outside the Circles of Time available. The last one was reserved this morning.
Demand for this new edition - both standard and deluxe - has been very brisk. You've made an old man very happy. KG's pleased as well.
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Hah! I *knew* it!! That's GREAT news!!! I'm sure I speak for all (well, most anyway) when I wish you the heartiest of congratulations in this effort, and look forward to future reprints with equal enthusiasm. Keep 'em comin'!!!
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