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Post subject: musick  PostPosted: Mar 07, 2008 - 03:31 PM



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just curious-what age are some of the posters here and what musickal interests??do you think crowley would like donovan??ive read that crowley would have hated "hippie"culture-is that true?ac being fond of,well,recreational pharmeceutical research i wonder what his take on lsd would be-imagine crowleys commentary after taking 200 mics of owsley acid and seeing jefferson airplane!!just kidding-please list a couple of your musickal interests-ill start
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ravi shankar-bill monroe-miles davis-bob marleyetc etcj-28-phx,az



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I'd have to go with Tool, Byla, Red Sparowes, Jesu, A Storm of Light, Sunn O)))... there are just too many to list. But I certainly use Byla and Ravi Shankar for meditation.

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93 seajay!
I am a big fan of the experimental 70's scenes like the German 'krautrock' scene(Can, Faust), the French 'zeuhl' scene(Univers Zero, Magma), the British 'Canterbury' scene(Gong, Soft Machine), the multi-cultural 'Rock in Oppression' scene(Henry Cow, Samla Mammas Manna) & the fusion(Electeic Miles, Mahavishnu Orchestra) & prog-rock scenes(King Crimson, Gentle Giant).
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As for A.C. & the hippie movement, their mantra of 'sex, drugs & rock n roll' is not too far removed from Crowley's "Dionysus, Apollo, Aphrodite. In English: wine, woman and song" as mentioned in 'Energized Enthusiasm'.

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It's really questionable about the hippy thing. For me, I consider how older generations take the new generations interests: usually as an uphill and unwanted indulgence. Crowley was a mountain climber, I'm sure if he was born at the right time he'd be interested and indulge! But I can't see him as someone that just sat by the sidelines and partied, he'd be at a university working with Timothy Leary or chilling with Burrough's and Gysin in Paris. I hate that I have to explain myself so indepth, but some people can't get the idea otherwise...These people are just important figures and Crowley had that energy to him. He's that type of person and wherever his energy resides, great things are just bound to happen. He's a mountain climber.

Now as for music with a K. David Cherubim that started the Thelemic Order of the Golden Dawn (now MIA) has a band called The Illuminaughty (or some spelling to that effect). He has some real cool stuff written about musick and guitar playing that intertwine the two with magick. Very good and cool stuff.

I really like everything but opera--and even that is growing on me. So instead of writing the list of a few hundred groups I like, I'll just say that all music has this ability to work as an alchemy for me. Be it strengthening, mutations, delving into new combinations, it's amazing! And it just comes out of people in so many different ways. A few fav's of mine are: Melvins, Cannibal Corpse, Tool, The Future Sound of London, GG Allin and the Scumfucks/murderjunkies/antiseen, King Crimson, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson (older stuff), Metallica (ditto), Rozz Williams (Christian Death, Shadow Project, EXP, Heltir, 1334......), Sonic Youth, Fantomas, Maja Ratkje, John Zorn.
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John Zorn, huh?! He had a project back in the 90's called Naked City that was one of the most phenomenal bands I have ever heard. They could switch from grindcore to honky tonk on a dime! Yamatsuka Eye from the Boredoms(a Japanese noise band) was their primary vocalist but Mike Patton(Mr.Bungle, Fantomas) worked with them a few times. If you haven't heard it yet I'd recommend their album 'Radio'...amazing!

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I've said it before, but it's worth repeating: 'Killing Joke'.

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Musick I like: Tool, Fields of the Nephilim(+Nefilim), Coil, King Crimson, Anubis Spire, Hendrix, Zappa, Mahavishnu Orchestra, etc. Baphomet111, I've heard illuminenaughty and like their stuff, just wish there was more of it.
Op- As for Crowley's take on the hippy generation: Two things, watch the movie Easy Rider(brilliant movie- a microcosm of the 60's hippy movement) and try to think about Crowley's conception of what constitutes a black brother. That being said, I think uncle Al would very much enjoy LSD, psilocybian mushrooms, ketamine, dmt, etc but would emphasize their usage to coincide with the law of Thelema.
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93 smells!
first off, let me just say that Zappa is king!
now that we've got that out of the way I'd like to say, in response to your "I think uncle Al would very much enjoy LSD, psilocybian mushrooms, ketamine, dmt, etc" statement, that I think you're right. We know for sure that A.C. experimented with anhalonium lewinii(peyote), of which mescaline is the active compound. Mescaline is the same drug that Aldous Huxley ingested prior to his writing The Doors of Perception - & might I say an intense trip! & judging by his attribution of atropine-rich drugs like Stramonium & Belladonna to certain Paths(3 & 31) it is probable that he experimented with them as well.

"I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self. The exposure of innocence is a lie. Be strong, o man! lust, enjoy all things of sense and rapture: fear not that any God shall deny thee for this." - L II:22

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and uh...
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Is anyone here familiar with the Prague underground band 'Plastic People of the Universe'?...really experimental stuff from the late 60's - late 70's(I think they may even still perform)...they just released a 7 disc boxset that is increadible.

BorisMelvins, Melvins and uh... snivleM


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Killing Joke have reformed as their original line-up. And will be playing their first 2 albums live.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =362220898
 
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Britney spears, cause shes so into that kabbalah thing, shaved her head like Crowley, got attacked in the press, lost her kids, supposedly bisexual, got addicted to drugs and can`t sing..........dont know about mountain climbing though
 
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BlueKephra wrote: › Killing Joke have reformed as their original line-up.

They certainly are - my tickets are booked for the recital of Pandemonium (of course). By the way, half the available tickets for the whole tour have apparently sold without advertising.

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Captain Beefheart and the Magic(k) Band (the wonderfilled Trout Mask Replica), early King Crimson, Graham Bond, I could go on but won't,suffice to say, got the albums, Tee-shirts etc. Saw 'em all back in the day. Hyde Park 1969, were you there ? - Gandalf's Garden down the King's Road, first time I came across A.C. was in their magazine. Never saw those crazy Beatles though (big regret !).
 
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P.S, don't care if the Beast would have liked Donovan, I do !!!
 
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JohnS wrote: › Captain Beefheart and the Magic(k) Band (the wonderfilled Trout Mask Replica)


"I don't want to kill my china pig...no I don't"

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That's right, the Mascara Snake : Fast and Bulbous !!!!!
 
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JohnS wrote: › That's right, the Mascara Snake : Fast and Bulbous !!!!!


...and tight also!

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I Think A.C. was an intense climber that understood many terrains and climates.
so anything that has an impeccable intensity that configures a certian ambiance does it for me.

some of my favorites

---meditative---

King Crimson
Shakti
Ali Farka Toure
Babatunde Olatunji
Nusrat Fate Ali Khan

Miles electric and acoustic
John Coltrane
Thelonious Monk
Charlie Parker

Vivaldi
Bach
Mozart
Richard Strauss


---active---

Rolling Stones (The Biggest Bang Rolling Stones dvd amazing)
Led Zeppelin
Deep Purple
Hendrix
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Santana
Yes
Rush
The Clash
The Police
Foo Fighters

Marvin Gaye
Amy Winehouse


Howlin Wolf
Muddy Waters
Robert Johnson
Buddy Guy

Peter Tosh
Itals
Culture
Burning Spear
Black Uhuru
Skatalites
Jazz Jamaica

Destiny's Child - (Live in Atlanta DVD has Sekmet and Horus themes in it)
Black Eyed Peas
Kanye West
starting to get into HipHop

anyone know about radha and petro rhythms ?

are there any recordings of leila waddell ?
 
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I am a fan of Faith No More. I also like my metal although (at the risk of sounding like a grumpy old man) it is sorting of beginning to sound the same. For this reason, I have recently moved into the black metal territory with bands such as Dimmu Borgir with their Progenies of the Great Apocalypse and Cradle of Filth with Nymphetamine.

I recently found a Thelemic 'ritual rick' band called Illumine Naughty whose work can be heard on their MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/illuminenaughty I found that they mispronounced Thelema of the song of that title, but apart from that it is a solid song.


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On the topic of music. What preferences are there as to the types of music (if any) that work with certain rituals such as the LBRP. Also, what music might suit a celebration of an Equinox of the Gods such as that which is due in a fortnight? I have found that the dark ambient music of Lustmord or Lull is good for banishing, whereas Tibetan and Egyptian chants seem to help for evoking.

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ElGod wrote: › ...what music might suit a celebration of an Equinox of the Gods such as that which is due in a fortnight?


Igor Stravinsky's 'The Rite of Spring'!

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93,

I happen to listen to many different types of music, a few of my favorites are, and i encourage all to check them out if you havent heard of them, Rammstein (german band), Imogen Heap (amazing singer), Lamb of God (American Metal), Within Temptation (truly excellant band with orchastra).

If you check these groups out you'll see they are inded very different.

but just some of my favs...

enjoy.


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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Whilst I am quiet on this forum (primarily reading the well researched discussions / arguments / differences of opinions that seem to come up a lot), I will add mine to this.

Most of what I listen to tends to fall under 1) neofolk 2) dark ambient 3) (orthodox) industrial. So I usually have things like Current 93, Death In June, Sol Invinctus, Coil, Lustmord, Einstuerzende Neubauten, Throbbing Gristle &c. in my play lists. Although my better half has been introducing me to her prefered doom and black metal bands (The names escape me, sounds primarily Norwegian to me). Unfortunately (perhaps) I can also add on things like Steel Eye Span, Leonard Cohen and Johnny Cash to my listening list, but some of that was things my folk's used to listen to when I was a child so I picked up a taste for it.

As for music in ritual, to reply to ElGod, I find for some rituals, Coil is the best choice. And for others, I tend to agree about using Lustmord or Lull. But it would also depend on the ritual itself. Working with Mars, play something Martial Smile Working with Venus, something seductive.

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Don't know why, but when I listen to Pink Floyd (which is a lot, this is a serious band) Crowley always comes to mind, especially on their longer, more epic songs. People have tried to interpret some of their songs but their message to me sounds just very esoteric and above the material desires that most of their fans (The Wall) have. The Narrow Way Part III brings to mind the astral, for some reason.

Heroin just makes people cranky - I think he definately would have liked lsd.
 
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I'm Jack Shelton, Angloamerican writer soon expatriating to Canada, age 19 and play in the band People at the Sea, formerly The Patio Salesmen. we're on Last.fm and our records are up for free. It's all psychedelic music, stereolicious and trippy - made for headphones.

Some of my favourite bands are:

Radiohead
The Pink Floyd Sound
Black Moth Super Rainbow
Boards of Canada
Sigur Ros
of Montreal
The Most Serene Republic
M83
Okay
White Flight
Tortoise
Neil Young
The Beatles
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93!

Favourite Bands:

Garden of Delight
Bauhaus
Fields of the Nephilim
Cassandra Complex
New Model Army
Depeche Mode
Project Pitchfork
Girls under Glass
Joy Division
Killing Joke
Sisters of Mercy

some medieval stuff like Faun, Qntal, Corvus Corax

some Neofolk like Current 93

and more

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Babylonians worshipping Merodak in Benjamin Britten's, 'The Burning Fiery Furnace.'
The 'Ritual Dances' from Michael Tippett's, 'The Midsummer Marriage.'
Prokofiev's Third Symphony, 'The Fiery Angel'.
Szymanovski's Third Symphony, 'The Song of the Night.'
Janacek's, Glagolitic Mass.' As heard in Kenneth Anger's film, 'The Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome.'
Liadov's, 'Baba Yaga', 'Enchanted Lake' and 'Kikimora'. As heard in Kenneth Anger's film, 'The Man We Want To Hang.'
Takemitsu's, 'Dream Window.'
Debussy's, 'Jeux.'
Ravel's, 'Rapsodie Espagnole.'
Rachmaninov's, 'The Isle of the Dead'.
Scriabin's, 'Poem of Ecstasy' and 'Prometheus. The Poem of Fire.'

If only Scriabin hadn't died so young, having completed only a few works in his mature style. The other pieces are an attempt to fill the gap left by this loss.
 
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Both those Skryabin pieces are pure aural cinema to me, I see massive ships rolling through the sea, and similar visions when I listen to them.....I agree that his early death robbed the world of some potentially staggering music, although he could also have ended up becoming the worlds first hippy stoner musician, what with his light-organ, attempts at fusing music with smells , synaesthesia style and all his mystical obsessions...
"By the time he wrote Prometheus(1908-10) Scriabin had become obsessed with the idea of a 'mystical chord' composed of the notes A, D sharp G, C sharp, F sharp, B"
I seem to remember he was born at easter and died at christmas, or maybe the other way round.
 
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