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Quiet Earth's review of the movie is here: http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2008/ ... al-Wedding

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Equinoxstudios wrote: › My review for what it's worth...

I note that your post here is repeated verbatim as the Mandrake Speaks review of the movie, with the addition of a summarising sentence: Three words describe this film: "Straight", "To", "DVD".

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But, But, when will it be in the U.S.?
 
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lashtal wrote: ›
Equinoxstudios wrote: › My review for what it's worth...

I note that your post here is repeated verbatim as the Mandrake Speaks review of the movie, with the addition of a summarising sentence: Three words describe this film: "Straight", "To", "DVD".


This is true. I posted the review to a number of sites. Mandrake have not copied the review from LAShTAL. The Straight To DVD quote is my addition.
 
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Equinoxstudios wrote: › Mandrake have not copied the review from LAShTAL.

I didn't for a minute think they had: I've known Mogg Morgan since the early eighties and have nothing but respect for what he has achieved.

I only mentioned your review as part of a series of posts that attempt to give a flavour of the coverage and reportage being afforded to the movie.

We can expect to see a lot more about the movie on LAShTAL.COM...

A "celebration" of the movie, if you will.

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lashtal wrote: › I've known Mogg Morgan since the early eighties and have nothing but respect for what he has achieved.

I'm sure we've met then! Wink
 
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Another review has appeared online...

www.denofgeek.com/movies/54639/chemical_wedding_review.html
 
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And another review today from Film4:

http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/film.jsp?id=166568

And Fortean Times:

http://www.forteantimes.com/reviews/films/1152/chemical_wedding.html

Please note I'm posting these links to reviews as they begin to appear online regardless of their content. I don't know if these reviewers were at the premiere and an embargo has just been lifted but three have just appeared in the last 24 hours.

More will appear soon. The press have been issued with a fairly extensive pack to accompany their invitation on Bruce's plane tomorrow. Out to Cannes, private screening and back the same night.
 
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It was with great disapointment that I viewed Callow in 'Tristram Shandy'( a film so bad that Sterne flipped over a few times in a grave sarcastic dislight). I do not view this film as anything more than a poorly swung Waltz. I would not see it even If I was paid to. My childhood was filled with Jehovah's Witness fantasies & the last thing that I want to see is a Hero of mine reduced to a "characfer". I have never liked Iron Maiden, & I was annoyed by his approbation of Blake's artwork for his solo projject. POP.
 
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... that being said, I have done some thinking about it the last few days, & - At the time I wrote the above I felt deeply offended & hurt by someone (anyone) turning my ' Uncle Al ' into a murderer & rapist for fictional purposes, & what is more - because of their attendant fame, gaining attention for the 'Film', based on another field ( although : " 666 - The Number of the Beast " - cute. ). Jimmy Page always eschewed this role in popular culture, even though journalists (when he would actually speak to them ), were always trying to drag him into making statements upon his Occult affiliations. I respect Jimmy for his great respect to the legacy of A.C., especially at a time when it was not necessary for him to treat the matter with such a high degree of reverence & Silence. (Though he is arguably an 'initiate', where Bruce may not be; at least to the same degree)- Maybe Bruce IS aware that there are those out here who find what he is doing a far more extreme version of ' Oliver Haddo '. - & that Maugham was writing a 'John Bull '-friendly character study of someone who was of casual acquaintance & contemporary to him, - not a gross character Slur some 60 years after a, now-proven, "Good Man's", death. - A.C. might have even enjoyed this kind of notoriety for a time during his middle age, but I am quite certain that he spent his final years, at times, emotionally sequestered by the continued lack of understanding towards his Great Work & the Public who never forgave him, & no longer cared ( Well, the War changed many things, didn't it?). I have not seen this film, but based on all of your comments and descriptions it seems obvious that Bruce may not realise that times have changed in A.C.- Land since the Eighties. I think that Bruce is also a 'Good man', & an accomplished man - far more accomplished than I am at this time - But, I believe that he would have reconsidered his approach for this film had he known that those who really care, think that "Enough is Enough, already".


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Horemakhet wrote: › ...I have not seen this film...

Quite.

Let us know when you've had your preconceptions confirmed by actually viewing the movie.

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I do not want to see it, Paul. A preconception can be totally accurate. if a preconception upsets me as much as it does, why do I want to subject myself to further torment?.........

P.S. Sometimes, you are so 'English' that i despair..... & i mean that in the best possible way - aside from the jab.
 
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Horemakhet wrote: › Sometimes, you are so 'English' that i despair..... & i mean that in the best possible way - aside from the jab.


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Meanwhile, back to the topic in hand - and ignoring just for one moment the risk of a professed Thelemite being "hurt" and "tormented" by further reference to this iconoclastic movie - here's another review... This one is from the Guardian UK newspaper:

Rock star Bruce Dickinson flies in to bring a touch of Satan to the Croisette

Andrew Pulver
Monday May 19, 2008
The Guardian -- http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/fea ... 06,00.html

X Metal god, actor, novelist, swordsman, pilot, DJ - and now screenwriter. Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson is a man of many parts, and this weekend he showed up in Cannes to show off a new film called Chemical Wedding. Dickinson, a registered commercial airline pilot, flew himself to the south of France, along with a bunch of journalists, fans, and suitably attired hangers-on (they carried tote bags bearing the legend "Bruce Air Flight 666").

There's something very Iron Maiden about Wedding, dabbling as it does in the occult world of early-20th-century mystic Aleister Crowley, finding several excuses to liberate young women from their clothes, and incorporating dialogue that sounds as if it was lifted from the Number of the Beast's lyric sheet. It would all be too ridiculous if Dickinson were not such a nice, unassuming chap - the 49-year-old product of a minor public school with a penchant for satanic imagery.

When Dickinson sits down with Chemical Wedding director Julian Doyle (a veteran of Iron Maiden videos and Terry Gilliam's editing room) the pair clearly get on like a house on fire. Dickinson says Chemical Wedding has been in the works for 15 years, having passed through a number of producers; in the end, he got the thing off the ground himself.

"I started getting into Aleister Crowley when I was 15," he says. "He was the first rock star." He adds that Chemical Wedding is "Withnail & I meets The Wicker Man", which must have sounded good in those pitch meetings.

Without Dickinson, Chemical Wedding would have remained one of the submerged nine-tenths of gunk films clogging up the Cannes film market. Hampered by ropey performances, it never reaches the levels of weirdness and humour it is aiming at. But Dickinson, game as ever, can't resist a final, harmless blasphemy: "We bring Crowley back for three days. Like Christ. Only better." Get your devil-horn salute ready now.


As someone suggested in a post earlier in this thread: I can't help but feel that Crowley would have been rather flattered by the attention. The stats for this site suggest that large numbers of people are being introduced to Crowley as a result of reading about the movie and are consequently taking the effort to undertake at least a little research.

Dare I bring attention also to the fact that Crowley is referred to in this review as a "mystic" and not the de rigeur "Satantist and pervert"?

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I agree with the above Post in terms of Dickinson being an amazing vocalist & a worthy Pilot - & his band, under the guidance of Steve Harris, to be the 'top of the heap'(once again), in the Metal World ( though I have never liked Iron Maiden ). However, none of the above constitutes Crowley (as a dead man), somehow being categoricaly 'Pleased' with this kind of attention. It is sensationalism & nothing more. Crowley was a deeply spiritual person ( though definitely 'conflicted' - in the Catholic sense) . He had an amazing constitution & could even Endorse ( in defiant Prose ), the worst attacks attacks against him, - but a Villian of the sickest kind known to the more gentlest of humanity (our children), is something that I think he would have fought against.


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Horemakhet wrote: › I agree with the above Post in terms of Dickinson being an amazing vocalist & a worthy Pilot

And I have no comment to make on the worthiness of his piloting.

Quote: › his band, under the guidance of Steve Harris, to be the 'top of the heap'

Damning with faint praise given your statement above that you "have never liked Iron Maiden".

Quote: › categoricaly 'Pleased' with this kind of attention. It is sensationalism & nothing more.

Far from being "categorical", the phrase I actually used was "I can't help but feel". And what did I feel? Not that Crowley would be "pleased", but that he'd be flattered.

Quote: › [Crowley] could even Endorse the worst attacks attacks against him

And how on earth did he "endorse" the attacks?

Quote: › a Villian of the sickest kind known to the more gentle of humanity, is something that I think he would have fought against.

I haven't the faintest idea what you're alluding to here: what does "the more gentle of humanity" have to do with anything?

Your contributions to this thread are vacuous and, until you've seen the movie, pretty much irrelevant. Resist the urge to respond.

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... ok. You Win.
 
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This from blabbermouth.net...

Julian Doyle, the director and co-screenwriter of IRON MAIDEN frontman Bruce Dickinson's supernatural horror-thriller "Chemical Wedding", will appear in London this Friday for the launch of the "Chemical Wedding" book at Atlantis — a bookshop which was frequented by Aleister Crowley himself. Doyle will be there to sign copies of the book and show "the making of" "Chemical Wedding" to all of the attendees.

The details are as follows:

Friday, May 23:
Atlantis Bookshop
49a Museum Street, London WC1A 1LY
7:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.

Dickinson was in Cannes this past weekend to show off "Chemical Wedding". Dickinson, a registered commercial airline pilot, flew himself to the south of France, along with a bunch of journalists and fans.

"Chemical Wedding" wrapped principal photography in September with Julian Doyle at the helm. The film stars Simon Callow as a reincarnation of Aleister Crowley, once dubbed "the most evil man in Britain." Callow's character, Haddo, is a shy, stuttering professor.

"My experience with stages is obviously IRON MAIDEN and that sort of stuff," Bruce said. "I've directed a few videos over the course of my rock 'n' roll past and I enjoyed them, I enjoyed directing videos. Writing movies a completely different thing. I wrote a couple of absurd comic novels — that came out as well, and you know, they did OK actually. So, writing is something that's always sort of interested me, so this seemed like a good opportunity to learn the process, really."

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lashtal wrote: › As someone suggested in a post earlier in this thread: I can't help but feel that Crowley would have been rather flattered by the attention. The stats for this site suggest that large numbers of people are being introduced to Crowley as a result of reading about the movie and are consequently taking the effort to undertake at least a little research.

Dare I bring attention also to the fact that Crowley is referred to in this review as a "mystic" and not the de rigeur "Satantist and pervert"?


I have the same feeling, Paul. Wink -Camlion
 
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Atlantis — a bookshop which was frequented by Aleister Crowley himself. Doyle will be there to sign copies of the book and show "the making of" "Chemical Wedding" to all of the attendees.


Can't make it Sad


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The soundtrack album tracklisting has been announced:

Bruce Dickinson Chemical Wedding OST CD

Overview

Chemical Wedding is a feature film written by Iron Maiden front-man, Bruce Dickinson and long term Monty Python editor, Julian Doyle, who also directed the film. The film is a gothic sci-fi extravaganza set in Trinity College Cambridge, where a scientific experiment goes awry resulting in the resurrection of the infamous Edwardian Occultist Aleister Crowley, who was immortalised into pop culture by the likes of The Beatles, Jimmy Page and Ozzy Osborne.

Tracklisting

1. CHEMICAL WEDDING - BRUCE DICKINSON
2. MEET THE WICKEDEST MAN IN THE WORLD - GEOFF BRETON & SEAN REA
3. HUSH, HUSH, HUSH, HERE COMES THE BOGEY MAN (REMASTERED) - HENRY HALL
4. YOUNG SYMONDS & YOUNG ALEX MEET CROWLEY - GEOFF BRETON, SEAN REA & JOHN SHRAPNEL
5. 50 YEARS I KEPT HIS WATCH - PAUL MCDOWELL
6. THE SUIT REVEALED (Score)
7. THE EVIL THAT MEN DO LIVES ON - THOMAS NELSTROP
8. MATHERS’ DREAM (Score)
9. SEXUAL MAGIC - SIMON CALLOW & JUD CHARLTON
10. AN ENCOUNTER WITH HIM - SIMON CALLOW & JUD CHARLTON
11. LIA MEETS MATHERS (Score)
12. SYMONDS INTRODUCES DR OLIVER HADDO - PAUL MCDOWELL
13. MESSIAH : PART 2 "HALLELUJAH" - HANDEL
14. HADDO'S LECTURE (Dialogue) - SIMON CALLOW
15. SYMPHONY NO.40 IN G MINOR K550 : I MOLTO ALLEGRO - MOZART
16. HADDO'S EXPLANATION - SIMON CALLOW, RICHARD FRANKLIN & ROBERT ASHBY
17. THOSE COCKLESS WINDERS - SIMON CALLOW & LUCY CUDDEN
18. WHO IS IT YOU THINK I AM - SIMON CALLOW & JUD CHARLTON
19. CAN I PLAY WITH MADNESS - IRON MAIDEN
20. PROFESSOR IN SUIT THE JOURNEY - KAL WEBBER, JUD CHARLTON, TERRENCE BAYLER & JAMIE LISA JACQUEMIN
21. EVERY MAN & WOMAN IS A STAR - SIMON CALLOW
22. FANLIGHT FANNY - GEORGE FORMBY
23. HADDO VISITS THE MYSTIC SHOP - SIMON CALLOW & LILLY DUMONT
24. THE GHOST IN THE MACHINE – JUD CHARLTON & LUCY CUDDEN
25. SIP THE WINE - THE CEREMONY – NATASHA FORD
26. SPARE SOME CHANGE – KARE SILVERSTEN
27. THE WICKER MAN - IRON MAIDEN
28. SEPERATION BY SKIN (Alchemical Mix) - EARTH LAB
29. SHE’S THINKING OF ME - SIMON CALLOW & JUD CHARLTON
30. PRODUCING A MOONCHILD – MIKE SHANNON & PAUL MCDOWELL
31. BEHOLD THE PLACE I HAVE LED YOU - SIMON CALLOW
32. HYPNOTIZING BRENT - PAUL MCDOWELL, TERRENCE BAYLER & KAL WEBER
33. THE CURIOUS CAT COMES WILLINGLY - SIMON CALLOW
34. HE WAS NEVER A CARPENTER - PAUL MCDOWELL & KAL WEBER
35. MATHERS ENTERS THE SUIT - PAUL MCDOWELL & KAL WEBER
36. TIME AFTER ALL IS ONLY RELATIVE - SIMON CALLOW
37. WHERE’S THE DOOR - KAL WEBER & JAMIE LISA JACQUEMIN
38. HOLY UNION (Dialogue & Score) - SIMON CALLOW
39. THE LAST FIGHT (Score)
40. PRÉLUDE À L'APRÈS-MIDI D'UN FAUNE - DEBUSSY
41. FELT OUT OF PLACE (Dialogue) - MIKE SHANNON & PAUL MCDOWELL
42. MAN OF SORROWS - BRUCE DICKINSON

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I would appreciate it if someone could tell me when this is going to be released in the U.S and I also would like to know if it is going to be a limited release or not. I hope it will be playing nationwide. I think that I could possibly meet another Thelemite at the movie. Hopefully it won't be too long before its released on DVD.
 
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I finished reading the tie-in book and, I have to say, I'm impressed! I'll try to keep this review spoiler-free but for the last paragraph, so don't say you weren't warned.

I decided to read the book now mainly for two reasons: i) I really enjoyed the movie and wanted to relive some of it's best moments; ii) I would like to see if they developed some of the esoteric themes that were just mentioned in the movie, especially the ritual of the Chemical Wedding (see my movie review).

The writing style is soft and straightforward. It almost reads like a straight novelization of a movie script, descriptions are kept to a minimum (unlike most movie novelizations), the dialogues are all there (with a few slight changes) and the action is narrated exactly as in the movie.

Yet there are some good reasons for someone who saw the movie to read the book as well. First is what I call the Umberto Eco's style, named after his "Foucault's Pendulum". Although not trying to imitate Eco, the authors of "Chemical Wedding" either via a description, a pause in the narrative or by extending some of the movie scenes delve into everything, and I mean everything! From the identity of Jesus' father to the science behind light reception in the eye till the information reaches the brain, passing through the mandatory (in these days) Templar Knights and, of course, most of quantum physics. Of course they don't delve too deep into it (you don't get the feeling that the authors have a PhD in... well, everything like you get when you read Eco) but deep enough to entertain and yet generate curiosity in the reader who is not familiar with such concepts.

From this point of view it can be said the book's trying to be a "DaVinci Code" style book to get these esoteric concepts to the average reader but there are shortcomings to this. First, it's a self published book, so I believe (but I might be mistaken) it will not generate the amount of publicity necessary for such and endeavour. Second, there are lots of typos, some of them repeated more than once, like Megathurion for Mega Therion and Uncertainty Principal instead of Principle. For the interested reader these are not shortcomings at all, but for the average one they might be...

Secondly, for those who watched the movie, the book has some extra scenes and extra information about the characters, most importantly what goes in Lia's mind. In fact there's this whole subplot about her dead father that is developed here. Other things are interesting to know, like what happened to the purpled suit guy after his "encounter" with Haddo (and also what really happened in this encounter, but that's implicit in the movie).

One thing that is worth mentioning is that Haddo is always Haddo, and this helps the reader to keep in mind what Callow mentioned 3 or 4 times before and after the Premiere in London, that he is not playing Crowley but someone who believes to be possessed by Crowley. In fact there's a discussion about Shakespeare's Richard III and why he had to be a villain that mimicks Haddo's feelings.

The science, well... Me being a theoretical physicist and all... It's not that bad, mostly because it deals more with Quantum Physics, which is in fact quite... esoteric. It actually got me thinking...
Dr. Mathers is unrealistic though, he's the typical movie scientist who knows everything about all the natural sciences. What's a Chaos physicist doing researching a Cyber-suit and that happens to know all the intricacies of Quantum Physics and some Cosmology. Well, some super genius, maybe worthy of a Moonchild Wink

Lastly, what I really wanted to know, the Chemical Wedding itself. I'm still confused about it. It apparently is the "oldest and most powerful ritual" and it was done only 4 times (2 of them named in the book). But then it is said that it is the ritual that Crowley used in all of his incarnations(4 are named, and none is one of the others), and the one he needs to do now to "fix" himself in this timeline.

To finish after reading this, even though it stills lack in magickal content, I now will enjoy the movie even more.


So, is anyone going to Atlantis tomorrow evening? I intend to go, maybe even ask Julian to elaborate on this last issue and maybe try go get a signed copy of the book (at the premiere I had them sign a copy of Crowley's Book of Lies instead Smile ) and meet the lovely Lucy as well Smile
I'm up for a pint later to meet some other Thelemites as well
 
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Thanks for that review... Much appreciated.

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"Absolutely ridiculous but mildly enjoyable supernatural thriller."

http://www.list.co.uk/article/8533-also-released-film/

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A review in today's The Scotsman newspaper starts: "Aleister Crowley craved drunken oblivion and mindless sex. What a loss he will be to the new series of Big Brother when it cranks up next month."

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment/ ... 4117014.jp

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One of the UK's most popular newspaper, the Sunday Mirror (read by millions) seems to "get the point" of the movie:

"It is a bizarre blend of comedy, thriller and horror with various sexual shenanigans, and features a deliciously over-the-top performance by Callow as lecturer Dr Haddo. Boy does he enjoy himself.

The production values may well be low budget, but essentially the film is a strange cross-genre gothic romp through occult madness. A bit of a mess - but Callow is great fun to watch.

FINAL CUT

A rockin' occult romp. **"


http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/sund ... -20428817/

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Time Out's review:

Simon Callow’s always a good bet for a humourous slice of thespian camp and that’s often the case with this paean of sorts to the late, influential occultist-cum-writer, Aleister Crowley. Crowley was a bit of a devilish weirdo but, woah, this is one strange brew.

http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/855 ... dding.html

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And Crowley finally makes it to OK! magazine:

This is one bonkers movie, but it’s quite entertaining if you’re into paranormal horrors. Simon Callow is gloriously over the top as the hedonistic occultist.

http://www.ok-magazine.co.uk/movies/vie ... l-Wedding/

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