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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doing as thou wilt...
 Posted: Jul 12, 2008 - 09:08 PM
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Quote: › This is why it is so silly that people misunderstand the Law as granting unlimited license with regard to behavior. In truth, it does so very conditionally.
Yes. One of the conditions in Crowley's system - attainment of the knowledge and conversation of one's Holy Guardian Angel, whatever that is understood to be - it seems to occur as some kind of contact with a higher intelligence that has information and vision vastly beyond one's own. The path to HGA has a guiding quality to it. Learning and applying qabalah helps a lot. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doing as thou wilt...
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 07:09 PM
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magispiegel wrote: › Walterfive,
No worries on your insults. It is very rare that somebody usually responds to my comments anyway.
Hardly suprising. As they say down in Carolina, "Nobody likes wrestling with a pig, you just end up muddy, and it annoys the pig."
magispiegel wrote: › I have met many interesting people through the Theosophical Society, and the work of those that have extrapolated upon the doctrine of Dyzan may sound boring to you. But, hey, remember this...Leadbeater and Besant's work is no way near as boring and redundant as Lon Milo's.
An opinion, I see, that you find yourself quite alone in holding. Go for the gusto, baby.
magispiegel wrote: › Geez, he may be a good bloke etc. However, this does not reflect upon his work. There is no comparison, it is like eating at McDonalds or a 2 star michelin restaurant e.g. Tristan (In, Puerto Portals, Mallorca.)
Well, you let us know when you've written *one* book that approaches the concensus of value and worth that Lon's generally do in the international Magickal Community, m'kay? And please, *do* tell us who your publisher is going to be...
magispiegel wrote: › I absolutely disagree with you regarding Annie Besant's work. Not only have I had the priviledge to hold her ashes, I think she has a wonderful manner of articulation in conveying the principles of the trans-himalayan tradition to the western mind. However, since you are most probably aligned with the C.O.T.O., you have no other choice but to admire Lon Milo's work?, naturally so. So, your reflexive rude comments ('parachuting in') are self explanatory considering recent events with the Trademark case.
My old Drill-Sergeant used to say "Opinions are like assholes private! Nobody seems to think their own might stink!" Feel free to disagree. 
Seeing as nobody's even *mentioned* that Trademark case here, that thorn's obviously sticking in *your* side, sir. Furthermore, you *are* trolling. I'd sooner hold Mdm. Blavasky's cigar-ashes; Besant shouldn't have been allowed to sniff her farts, let lone edit her life's work.
magispiegel wrote: › The fact remains Walterfive, I am a solitary practitioner and can see the whole playing field.
The fact remains that you can't seem to see the forest for the trees.
magispiegel wrote: › I must admit, I do have sensibilites and are drawn to works of quality. In my humble opinion, Lon Milo's work is like very expensive toilet paper. Look out for my book (The rhythm of the cells between - precipitations of phantasms) which is in process of publication. You might loosen your attachment(s) to people/organisation(s) that may want to control you? Who knows?
Oh, I *anxiously* await your book, good sir. I'm sure we're *all* waiting with bated breath to see what kind of product you produce. Have a nice day. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doing as thou wilt...
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 07:55 PM
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zardoz wrote: › Quote: › This is why it is so silly that people misunderstand the Law as granting unlimited license with regard to behavior. In truth, it does so very conditionally.
Yes. One of the conditions in Crowley's system - attainment of the knowledge and conversation of one's Holy Guardian Angel, whatever that is understood to be - it seems to occur as some kind of contact with a higher intelligence that has information and vision vastly beyond one's own. The path to HGA has a guiding quality to it. Learning and applying qabalah helps a lot.
Well said! It *does* have a "guiding" quality to it, doubly, in that one is "guided" to the process itself, and that once achieved, the conversation guides one to one's True Will. |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 10:52 PM
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Walterfive,
Wonderful! It sure looks like I have aroused some interest from you in regard to my contribution to the occult community (this is not for those affiliated with the O.T.O. (TM) in the U.S. though). Tell your friends about it too. However, I do not think they can stomach references to true occultists that I respect e.g. Kenneth Grant while they eat it over their McDonalds (TM) for 25 cents.
Please enjoy reading your kindergarten Lon Milo books and comics  ..you will get very far (NOT) with them  ...real interesting reading Walter!...yep...real interesting! and very insightful indeed
Yes, it is a thorn in my side regarding the Trademark case actually. I think it is a VERY SAD OUTCOME for the O.T.O. ...A VERY SAD OUTCOME INDEED.
Nuff said.
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 10:59 PM
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Walterfive,
I forgot to say. It must start to stink now...
"THE FISH ROTS FROM THE HEAD DOWN".
Comedy
Keep up the GREAT WORK.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doing as thou wilt...
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 11:00 PM
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Walter, these threads are generally a lot more constructive when we try to avoid the abrasive edge, the personal remarks, and the toilet humour. Conversely, the quality of discussions normally takes a downward turn with the introduction of these elements. It's why the site has Guidelines for participation in the threads.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doing as thou wilt...
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 12:44 AM
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please forgive the lack of caps here-a momentary technological problem...might i suggest that one needn't pit lon against kg. they are two authors whose work has been of tremendous importance to my own path. as much as it becomes tiresome to defend grant from shallow insults and slurs (which seem to me increasingly ignorant as time goes by) so also defending duquette from such dismissal. someone recently suggested that duquette's work has hidden "initiated" gems...i'd agree. and even his "kindergarten" material, if we wish to call it that, has been of tremendous value for providing very practical access points to thelemic magick. i think it is a very unique and important contribution to crowley studies and a more widespread implementation of his work. i can attest to this value personally-and as a ravenous reader of the Typhonian Trilogies, which i have found indispensible to my own endeavors in the Great Work.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doing as thou wilt...
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 06:48 AM
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Kyle,
What is the big deal? Anybody who knows Crowley will be familiar with the way he would 'run down' other authors e.g. A.E. Waite (Waistcoat).
So, in this respect, I am only following a tradition which the O.T.O. already has insitu.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Doing as thou wilt...
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 07:39 AM
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magispiegel wrote: › What is the big deal? Anybody who knows Crowley will be familiar with the way he would 'run down' other authors e.g. A.E. Waite (Waistcoat).
The "big deal", Charles, is that these forums are intended for constructive discussion, not for confrontation and bickering; read the forum guidelines, adherence to which is a requirement. The fact that Crowley slagged off authors such as Waite is neither here nor there; there's no compulsion to mimic A.C. in this or any other respect.
If you can't see how dispiriting the needling and squabbling between WalterFive and yourself is - two senior members of this community - then perhaps (as someone said of Mirrorman in similar circumstances) you need to reflect on the matter.
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 11:02 AM
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Magispiegel and Walterfive,
You both need to re-read your recent posts to understand how foolish they make you both appear. You appear to share the illusion that LAShTAL.COM exists for you to play out some strange game but it's actually done in full view of significant numbers of people that look to the site to provide something a little better than that.
This thread had reached its natural end so I am locking it. By locking it, I'm also ensuring that your remarks are preserved for future consideration.
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