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 Posted: Sep 10, 2008 - 02:28 AM
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[quote="OKontrair"]I see from comparing the 2 Lams side by side that there are other variations than the ones we have discussed so far.
Whole-hearted LAM has three rows of hearts and row three (outermost from pate) is partly cut off. Feint-hearted LAM has a complete row three and the beginnings of a fourth row. Also FHL has the darkest background nearest the face with a light background at the edge of the page. WHL - the gallery version from the Harry Ransome collection - has a light background near the cheeks, like a glow, and darker background at the edge of the page.
These two images are definitely of the same object because there is an identity of small detail in what must have been spontaneous marks by the artist.
Lastly I largely agree with the observations of sonofthestar and Nashmiron.
Upside down the image looks like a phallus with the A further expansion of this train of thought:
http://hometown.aol.com/vonseewald/images/lam.jpg |
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Posted: Sep 14, 2008 - 11:39 PM
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OKontrair wrote: › As for the alien business, well I have never turned my mind in that direction. What do the gods/aliens, if any, want of us? These are the rabid nightmares of early farmers. All that sheep and lamb imagery inclines me to think that god wants us for food. If we behave one way we taste nicer, if not we need more time in the oven.
OK
The modern idea that greys prey upon humans fits in with the above. However LAM doesn't semm like the modern 'grey' to me. |
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Posted: Sep 15, 2008 - 06:32 PM
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| What an extraordinarily paranoid vision of the universe. Almost exactly akin to the Old Testament "jealous god" with his frequent blood sacrifices; and because "the blood is the life", the ultimate sacrifice is of one's own blood (as in Jesus' ritual) to the arbitrary "god", being IHVH or LAM. Then they bring on the squids. Eurrgh! |
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Posted: Sep 15, 2008 - 07:15 PM
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ianrons wrote: › What an extraordinarily paranoid vision of the universe. Almost exactly akin to the Old Testament "jealous god" with his frequent blood sacrifices; and because "the blood is the life", the ultimate sacrifice is of one's own blood (as in Jesus' ritual) to the arbitrary "god", being IHVH or LAM. Then they bring on the squids. Eurrgh!
Yep. It also distracts in a major way from what real value there is in this Thelemic offshoot. I have a very good recipe that I could adapt to roasting a 'grey,' should I ever come across one in the woods and get a good shot at it.  |
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Posted: Sep 16, 2008 - 12:20 AM
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And yet there are so many modern religious ideas that have been impacted by Thelema, e.g.:
Greys
Dianetics
National Socialism
I could go on ad nauseum.
Perhaps by examining Thelema's impact on what could be regarded as spin off paradigms we can gain a greater understanding. Alternatively we could stand aloof in some kind ofThelemic purity and avoid getting our hands dirty by examining these spin off paradigm's more closely.
I wish to avoid trolling when I genuinely ask: How can the real value of any given Thelemic offshoot be ascertained without being prepared to examine all potential avenues? |
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Posted: Sep 16, 2008 - 12:29 AM
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| So, Nemo418, just to confirm that you see Thelema's influences "most worthy of receiving comment" as being on UFO cult nonsense, Scientology and Nazis? Didn't think it worth mentioning anything a little more, shall we say, uplifting? |
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Posted: Sep 16, 2008 - 10:35 PM
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Ok well clearly I lack sufficiently refined sensibilities for the lofty esoteric debates that occur here. You may as well unsubscribe me I will not be visiting again.
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