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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: secret?  PostPosted: Jun 14, 2008 - 08:17 PM



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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

There! Imagine this was posted right after Michael's post that starts off "Supreme Secret.......".

The Secret, is not the problem! Its the application of the Secret that is crucial to the matter at hand.
I can go to a thrift store and find a CD of a computer program, -- but if it does not come with the registration Key, it's no good for anything other than a coaster!
All that I need is on the CD, and yep--I just found it for 2 dollars---but without the key--how can I make use of the wealth that key unlocks?
So the key to using the Secret is the knowledge of the mode of it's application, and the understanding of all conditions pertinent thereunto.

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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: L  PostPosted: Jun 15, 2008 - 01:24 AM



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MichaelStaley wrote: › I've been reading a fascinating book recently - Why Mrs Blake Cried: William Blake and the Sexual Basis of Spiritual Vision by Maria Keith Schuchard (Century, London, 2006) - exploring the Moravian, Swedenborgian and other currents upon which Blake drew.

This book was preceded by a shorter essay version, which is still available here from the online journal Esoterica. The essay indeed "begged" to be expanded into a longer book, since it was so densely packed with facts and footnotes. (I haven't read the book, though -- does anyone who has read both think it's worth buying if one is already familiar with the contents of the original essay?)

I've also heard that Schuchard's Ph.D. dissertation, from 1975 I think, is worth a look as well. It's title is "Freemasonry, Secret Societies, and the Continuity of the Occult Traditions in English Literature."

Poelzig wrote: › I am of the opinion that Freemasonry (and pseudo-masonry) was the worst thing to happen to magic.

I'm sure that most masons would probably assert that magic was the worst thing to happen to masonry! Laughing

Steve
 
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I think if you asked MOST masons about "Magick" in masonry they would not know what the hell you are talking about.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: L  PostPosted: Jun 15, 2008 - 09:17 PM



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SteveCranmer wrote: › This book was preceded by a shorter essay version, which is still available here from the online journal Esoterica. The essay indeed "begged" to be expanded into a longer book, since it was so densely packed with facts and footnotes. (I haven't read the book, though -- does anyone who has read both think it's worth buying if one is already familiar with the contents of the original essay?)

Many thanks indeed for that link, Steve; I was extremely interested in reading the author's earlier article.

To answer your question, yes it is worth buying the book. There is considerably more material in the book. I believe that after writing the earlier article, the author gained more access to archives of the Moravian Church. Blake's mother Catherine had been a member of the congregation at the Moravian church in Fetter Lane, London EC1 which was destroyed in the Blitz in the early 1940s (it was the same night's bombing which, I believe, destroyed Spare's home and studio). This was during her first marriage, to a man called Armitage who subsequently died, after which she married James Blake. The Moravians, led by Count Zinzendorf who had connections with Swedenborg, had some radical ideas about the sacramental nature of sex in general, and some strange ideas of the sexualisation of the spear-wound in Christ's side in particular. An inspiring read in my opinion, and I'll be posting a review on Lashtal in the near future.

Best wishes,

Michael.

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