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Deconstructing the Iconography of Set by Ian Taylor - probably the new "best study on Set". (PDF)  

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Set-Tetu-Ra
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28/02/2020 11:29 pm  

Far more comprehensive than anything I've read. Addresses the most sources. Has a lot of good critique generally not brought up about previous sources like Te Velde. A lot of new information I had not read (and I study Set quite a bit). Really great comparisons of theories and ideas on Set. And extremely thorough.

Images of Set by Lansberry is probably still my favorite, but this is the best imo. And it validates things we've been called psuedo-historians for, like Seti I using Osiris and an Isis Knot on some cartouches instead of Set, which creates the same phonetic spelling.

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/7714/1/Taylor17PhD.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwialfH9ivXnAhVRMqwKHXiiDKIQFjAAegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw0anyEycaZ-wpXEJMoODkuM

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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28/02/2020 11:37 pm  
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

I study Set quite a bit

A bit of an understatement.


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Set-Tetu-Ra
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28/02/2020 11:56 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

I study Set quite a bit

A bit of an understatement.

You're right hahaha, more like an old priest obsessed with their deity!

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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29/02/2020 1:53 am  
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

more like an old priest obsessed with their deity!

But how can you become Master of the Universe when you have a "deity?"


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Set-Tetu-Ra
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29/02/2020 2:07 am  

@shiva

 

I have no such LHP interest anymore. Dissolution into my patron deity/s and the All are more my style now. 

 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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Set-Tetu-Ra
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29/02/2020 3:47 am  
Posted by: @shiva
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

more like an old priest obsessed with their deity!

But how can you become Master of the Universe when you have a "deity?"

This brings to mind The Book of Lies.

SAMSON

The Universe is in equilibrium; therefore He that is without it, though his force be but a feather, can overturn the Universe.
Be not caught within that web, O child of Freedom! Be not entangled in the universal lie, O child of Truth!

 

You ask me about overthrowing the universe, I seek not to be entangled in such a web. 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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29/02/2020 4:26 am  

@shiva ffs let him do what he wants eh? I'd rather his bhakti be 100% in alignment with his spiritual wants in life then some a priori He-Man fantasy.

 

Force and Fire is not metaphorical. In Prophetes Veritas Venit.


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29/02/2020 7:03 am  
Posted by: @set-tetu-ra

You ask me about overthrowing the universe

Not quite. I didn't use the word "overthrowing." You introduced that verb via a quote from 333.

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let him do what he wants eh?

This is a discussion forum. Not a police force. I asked a question. I did not move to stop him or sway him. I did not accuse him of suppressing my book. I did not offer magical toy powers. There are dozens more negative statements I must make before I can get through this chamber of the Tuat.

Then I'll get to ride the rapids in Ra's boat, with Set standing at the prow, sword in hand, ready to slay the devouring Al-Peppy Apep. So I am not averse to Set.

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I'd rather his bhakti be 100% in alignment with his spiritual wants in life then some a priori He-Man fantasy.

Fair enough. You may pass-on to the next Pile-on.

 


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29/02/2020 12:51 pm  
Posted by: @shiva

ready to slay the devouring Al-Peppy Apep

I don't know much about Apep yet, but I bet if you could tame him he would make a cute pet, you could give him a tickle under the chin and he'd give you a friendly nuzzle. 😊 


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29/02/2020 8:15 pm  
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I bet if you could tame him he would make a cute pet, you could give him a tickle under the chin and he'd give you a friendly nuzzle. 

He is a reptile. He eats Solar Eggs. We all have a reptile brain. It kicks in when under threat of survival and overrides any higher circuits. Strip away the glamor and we find this is kundalini. One does not tame/master kundalini, but works on the vehicle, to balance it, so that it can handle serpent fire without damaging the vehicle, the environment, or the limited warranty.


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01/03/2020 2:40 am  

Regarding the oft cited "best" source of Set, main inspiration of pseudo-historians like Aquino, Herman Te Velde;

However despite the extent of the detailed research undertaken, the work does contain sections that are debateable in their content. Te Velde discusses the meaning of the name of Seth, but presents etymologies initially from the 2nd century AD Isis and Osiris by Plutarch and then from the Late Period that are compatible with the theories of Plutarch but fails to propose or discuss any earlier etymologies. The chapter continues with a brief discussion of the Seth animal and a short discourse on the tail (Te Velde 1967, 8, 16) but does not discuss any of the variations that occur to the body or head of Seth. He also summarily dismisses the theories of both Emery and Zandee (Emery 1961, 120; Zandee 1963, 155) that Seth was a beneficial predynastic god of Upper Egypt (Te Velde 1967, 1112). By doing so, he dismisses the notion that Seth was once worshipped as a major and important god and the consideration that he was once revered as a beneficent deity and his status at the start of the dynastic period was simply a denigration as the result of being on the losing side, history being written by the victors. The interpretation of the relationship between Horus and Seth proposed by Te Velde is the major section of the work, and is the one most open to question. His proposition that the homosexual incident between Horus and Seth, usually considered as a minor incident in the myth, is in fact the main theme. He postulates that the injury to the eye of Horus was not caused by a blow but instead by rape and the reciprocal seizing of Seth’s testicles was a sexual act (Te Velde 1967, 37). The nature of the castration of Seth is presented as the removal of the semen from his testicles rather than their removal from Seth’s groin (Te Velde 1967, 40). It can be argued that Te Velde has begun with too rigid an approach to this myth, and as a consequence he does not countenance the idea of any historical background to it. The overall premise that underlies the work is that Te Velde has proceeded from the outset to present Seth in a negative light, stressing his bad points while suppressing his good points, even the title ‘God of Confusion’ ignores Seth’s good side.

Seth did not rely on confusion to defeat his enemies but uses his natural attributes of his strength, his voice, his many different forms and his weapons. Confusion and disorder are not part of the storms evoked by Seth, which are those of power and strength. The final comments Cruz-Uribe makes are on the negative portrayal of Seth throughout the work, with interpretations from the denigration of later periods being retrospectively applied to Seth from the earliest periods. He proposes instead that at the start of the Osiris cult, the murder of Osiris was not considered an evil act, but was an action necessary to elucidate death. Instead of Seth being severally punished for his crime, he is judged and reconciled with Horus (Cruz-Uribe 2009, 202).

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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01/03/2020 2:45 am  

On Seti I using Osiris and an Isis Knot to replace Set on some cartouches:

Robins’ proposal on the replacement the C7 Seth deity hieroglyph in the cartouche of Seti I with the C83 Osiris deity hieroglyph in his tomb and with the V39 Isis knot hieroglyph in his temple at Abydos. Robin’s suggested that this was due to the tomb and temple were not places suitable for an image of Seth to be included (Robins 1997, 172-174). By analysing and re-interpreting a series of images from periods extending from the 1st Dynasty though to the 4th century AD, Cruz-Uribe questions Robins’ proposition regarding this substitution of the Seth figure in the cartouche of Seti I in these locations. Cruz-Uribe’s conclusion is inconclusive, agreeing that the tomb and temple substitution was undertaken to maintain a stable cosmic order but disagrees with Robin’s suggestion this was indications of the first stage in an official denigration of Seth. However, he proposes that it is improbable that the 19th Dynasty pharaohs would denigrate Seth, a deity highly favoured by them. Instead, it was simply the substitution of deities as a way of dealing with the troublesome deity Seth (Cruz-Uribe 2009, 203-210).

 

"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me… There is a splendour in my name hidden and glorious, as the sun of midnight is ever the son."

Set = I, Was = Aiwass


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01/03/2020 7:58 pm  

Have you been snorting anything?


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01/03/2020 8:21 pm  

@frater_anubis

No, but I have smoked "quack".

(sorry, I'll leave in shame now)

 


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