This is really just me trying to get some thoughts down, criticize and mock or support and add as you wish! This was originally in 4 parts and tracks my work with this being since I met it on 12/31/2019
So a thing I love about both the Egyptians and Thelema is that gods evolve, change roles, combine to make essentially super gods with all the combined characteristics, etc. This specific composite has been reaching out for a while, and the title is the best I've been able to divine from it. At first I thought it may be my HGA, but I've found evidence of it's subtle influence as far back as 777.
Set-Thoth-Ra, Soul of Nuit, contender against Apep (spelled the thelemic way, representing Hadit as well).
Set
Here he is the defender of the solar boat, where Thoth is the navigator and Ra the "driver". He represents pure unadulterated strength, the night sky, the midnight/hidden Sun, the child of Nuit and adoptive child of Ra, and possibly the father of Thoth depending on the myth. I've come to associate him with Daath and the disruption and confusion of the Abyss. He is Aiwass in Liber AL.
Thoth
Son of Set or self created, he is the navigator of Ra's boat, setting not only the course but ordaining the nature of all things in the universe, from basic mathematics and science to the placement of the stars themselves. He is knowledge and wisdom undefiled, and also representative of the enlightened individual, in this case the reader of AL or the HGA. Of course he is associated with the moon, and I put him with Chokmah. He can be seen as the advisor to other gods as well and mediator, which is why he is between Set and Ra balancing them, inspired by the formula ABRAHADABRA.
Ra
He is the Sun and day sky, the father and creator, speaker of chapter 3 of AL. He is the adoptive father of Set and so coparent/ruler with Nuit. He steers the solar boat and is the "visible sign of worship" in Thelema. I put him in Keter at Atum, Tipharet as Ra, and as the individual in Malkuth as Kherpri.
Soul of Nuit
These things - strength, wisdom/knowledge/mediation, and creativity - represent the Soul of Nuit so to speak. She is upheld by the strength of Set like Was Scepters holding up the sky. She is coregent with Ra, the King, as the Queen of Infinite Space and Stars. Yet Ra is at the heart because it is here, beneath this star, that Nuit comes to know herself. And again Thoth is us in all this, gaining wisdom and knowledge, balancing all things, finding the perfect center of All to dissolve into.
The full title is "Set-Tetu-Ra Ka-Nuit aha-Apep", Seth/Thoth/Ra, soul of Nuit, who contends against Apep.
Interestingly, when I boiled it down, both Set-Tetu-Ra and aha-Apep = 12 = 3. I found it interesting that this being Set-Tetu-Ra equals "who contends against Apep". Not only that, but it's obviously a triune deity who's number is 3. Further, I got the English "Set" and Hebrew "Apep" boiled down to both be 8.
In Hebrew Ra = 201, Ka = 21, both equal 3 with the same two digits. This ties the Ra aspect directly to the Soul, like Set is tied to the Chaos.
Ka-Nuit boiled down to 4, the number of the sun. Set-Tetu-Ra had boiled down to 3, and Set-Tetu-Ra Ka-Nuit was 7, the number of divine completion and perfection, like they're meant to go together. Set-Tetu-Ra Ka-Nuit aha-Apep = 10 = 1, wholeness and unity, Nuit as both The All (1) and Nothing (0). Adding the full name up in Hebrew the way I did also came out 10 = 1. 10=1&0 seems to be the main key to this.
Here's my sheet: https://imgur.com/a/VaIneyO
For those who have been following this, I found further interesting correspondences. I was using 777 chart XX to find the correspondences for Thoth, Ra, and Set, simple stuff. But the rows were interesting. They were:
Set = 26
Thoth = 8, 12
Ra = 6, 30
Sum
26+20+36 = 82 = 10 = 1 and 0
Single Digits
2+6+8+1+2+6+3 = 28 = 10 = 1 and 0
No Zeros
26+8+12+6+3 = 55 = 10 = 1 and 0
All the same concepts matching the 10 = 1 and 0 formula of both the full Hebrew and English title as seen in the previous threads. Also 82/28 are just reverse of each other and 55 is the two middle numbers better 0 and 10. Just like the reverse nature of Ra/Set balanced by Thoth. Looks like it's influence goes back to at least 777, even if way in the background.
93s thanks for letting me ramble, I think best out loud.
777 was published in 1909, we got the full name in Hebrew equalling 1909 and didn't know the significance, but the "10=1&0" formula is hidden within 777 in the title Set-Tetu-Ra.
So a thing I love about both the Egyptians and Thelema is that gods evolve, change roles, combine
Yes, I very much agree with this. Its something they have in common with the Hindu gods (the Greek or Norse ones less so for me). I see Thelema as part of this evolving process with Geb disappearing and Nuit's new counterpart becoming Hadit. This also seems to tie in with greater scientific understanding of the Universe (the ancients may have seen the night sky as just a "dome" rather than an infinite expanse).
Looks like it's influence goes back to at least 777
For a more crazy theory you could think that once a new deity is discovered, it can then act "retro-chronally", inserting itself into history before it was even discovered (something for the Chaos magicians maybe). 🙂
Also just found AL was first actually published in 1909, and the last 28th Aethyrs were 1909...
Yes, that's the kind of thing I mean: we were in the timeline where AL really was published in 1904, but since your discovery of Set-Tetu-Ra Ka-Nuit aha-Apep, he "went back in time" and changed things and now it was really published in 1909. 😉
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Ah, I see what you mean now. I was getting confused with the theory another member here has that Crowley "made it all up" and really wrote AL in 1906.
Ah yes, I remember now. I still believe in the "official" 1904 story, the member I mentioned, @therealrtc is releasing his theory in April. He claims Thelema will "self destruct" on that day, or something. 🙂
I'd forgotten all about the publication date, so thanks for reminding me. Its possible "1909" came up in some of my "research" and I completely ignored it! For example 1+9+0+9 = 19, one of the prime factors of 418, and the number of letters in the cipher of AL II:76.
So:
1 9 0 9 = 19 = 10 = 1 and 0
So what are the chances of an Egyptian name being received/created randomly, which is written in English letters, then transliterated into Hebrew, being added up by Hebrew numerology, equalling the date AL, the 30 Aethyrs, and 777 were published, the latter of which, when you take the main name "Set-Tetu-Ra", and add up the rows in 777 Crowley assigned those, equal the 10 = 1&0 formula, which you can also drive from both the Hebrew and English numbering of the name?
Indeed. I have had to change my thinking since starting "qabalistic" research, sometimes you start to see things that are just so complex that it seems the world we live in is just a projection of a higher one.
sometimes you start to see things that are just so complex that it seems the world we live in is just a projection of a higher one.
Yes, it seems it is. But they are all (the four worlds) here in the same time, there is no time for a higher one to project itself into the next one, i.e., they exist simultaneously. Or it seems like that to my admittedly limited consciousness.
the 10 = 1&0 formula
See, just in case, the entries for both number 1 & number 10 in Liber LVIII, Part II, The Universe As We Seek To Make It. Your formula seems as a formula of the creation of the gods, as you've demonstrated. Now, if I may ask, what's your next step in your Great Work?
Interesting.
It's the unity of 1 returning to the Infinite.
It's the daughter of Self + Cosmic egg
It's the All Self, Self, and physical shell.
Not sure the next step in my great work, this as all been quite fast since I had my experience and "converted" back to Thelema. Not even sure how to find out.
Not sure the next step in my great work, this as all been quite fast since I had my experience and "converted" back to Thelema. Not even sure how to find out.
Possibly as a suggestion to begin with, by going along with the counsel featured at the foot of your post?
"seek me only! Then the joys of my love will redeem ye from all pain."
Norma N Joy Conquest
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I think the numbers have kept me on the path. Since i was child I was impressed with the numbers. Been "converted" back & forth to Thelema at least twenty times until my HGA had grabbed & paralysed me for some ten minutes, and told me a few things.
The thing you need the most is usually in front of you, one step away.
From Liber LVIII:
This interests me:
I, He, Thou; three different aspects of a deity worshipped in three persons and in three ways: viz. (1) with averted face; (2) with prostration; (3) with identification.
Set-Tetu-Ra 777
SET: the eye, renovating I, the devil, indigo, putrid corpse meditation, the erect Hermes, Typhon, the black diamond, the secret force, lamp, ON, the witches sabath, the evil eye, arthritis, a man holding a book which he opens and closes, infernal dragon with a viper, sea monster, noisy peacock, Lord of the gates of matter, child of the forces of time
TETU: splendour, house, (sphere of) Mercury, absolute/perfect I, temporary I, violet purple/yellow, the hips legs and lips, analysis of the 4 elements (meditation), Hermes, Odin, Loki, Ibis, Ape, Swallow, the caduceus, vision of splendour, magic of healing, gift of tongues, knowledge of sciences, truthfulness and falsehood/dishonesty, left lower point of the hexagram, palace of serenity, left leg, swiftness, A fair youth with winged helment and heels, equipped as a Magician, displays his art, the magus of power, cerebral and nervous system, voices of witches and wizards
RA: beauty, the head, (sphere of) Sol, I of mediating influence, collecting I, yellow/gold/amber/red, the mighty and terrible one, the breast, the right eye, mediation on the Buddha, mediation on light, Apollo/Helios, Phoenix, lion, child, yellow diamond, vision of the harmony of things, devotion to the great work, pride, center point of the hexagram, palace of benevolence, victory, earned success, material success, Lord of the fire of the world