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Im trying to compile a list of references to A.C. in music.
There are some obvious ones like Ozzy's Mr Crowley but are there any more obscure ones that have been overlooked? Anything really, maybe even cover art and imagary.

Im interested to find out if any contemporary bands/artist have an outwardly Crowlian Image.


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Of course, Killing Joke!


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Thanks, Im looking for a specfics tho. Like a lyric that takes directly from the writings of A.C.
Id be interested to know how David Bowie is related etc

Coil are/where an amazing band, Im listening to Anal Staircase right now!


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Id be interested to know how David Bowie is related

I'm closer to the Golden Dawn
Immersed in Crowley's uniform
Of imagery...

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I think you can add Sting to that list.

I vaguely remembered an interview on MTV in the early 80s where he said he was reading Crowley, and I found this lead in a blog on the web -

http://danharms.wordpress.com/tag/readings/
(scroll to bottom) -

"So, what do Sting and the Loch Ness Monster have to do with Abramelin?

The Police’s Synchronicity II, released in 1983, juxtaposes two narratives against each other. One tells of an emotionally troubled man living in a bleak urban landscape, with a family on the edge of sanity and a job that leaves him incomplete and stunted. The other provides snapshots of a strange creature, emerging from a Scottish loch by… what? The last seconds of the video show Castle Urquhart, but the lyrics mention a “cottage.”

Could this cottage be Boleskine? It’s not as far-fetched as it might sound. Apparently Sting gave an interview to Penthouse published in the January 1984 issue - the year after the song was released - in which he declared his fascination with Crowley’s thought. I found a reference to it on this Italian site, but I’ve gotten no further than that."

The "Italian site" linked here actually gives less insight than this blog, but since I don't have the Penthouse issue in question I'll have to hope someone who has one can dig deeper.

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Graham Bond recorded Love is the Law in 1969, Holy Magick (1970) and We Put Our Magick on You (1971).
Gong recorded Mystic Sister: Magick Brother in 1969.
The (mis)quote,"Do as thy wilt shall be the whole of the law." appears in the liner notes for The Anthology of American Folk Music, 1952.


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The band 'Therion'?


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93 Good idea
Heres a couple from me

The Klaxons - Magick
Although the tag in the song is more Magick Without Tears. Not the best piece of Crowley related music.
Uncle John & Whitelock - Aleister Crowley
From the album There Is Nothing Else whose cover is very resemblent to the cover of Konx Om Pax

Im sure i spotted a band in Glasgow called Konx Om Pax

Used to correspond with a guy from the states in an industrial band call Psychonaut.
They recorded the whole of the Book of the Law over atmospheric industrial noise. Quite impressive. Michael Ford the guys name is and a real nice bloke. You can google him.


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Hi Doug,

"dougbrown93" wrote:
Used to correspond with a guy from the states in an industrial band call Psychonaut.

I was listening to one of their albums the other day for the first time in months: really not bad at all!

Paul

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There is indeed a band called Knox Om Pax, they are an offshoot of the Stars Of The Lid/Dead Texan bands. If you have heard either then you'll know what to expect from Knox Om Pax. I suppose you'd call it drifting music. There's nothing overtly thelemic about it, as there are no lyrics or samples or anything obvious like that.
The Dead Texan cd reminds me very much of Labradford, whos live performance of their "E Luxo So" album in the Union Chapel in London, in front of a massive stained glass window, in a thunderstorm, was one of the most sublime musical experiences I've ever had. Anyway, nowt very thelemic about all this.
I'm off to london on Saturday to see Throbbing Gristle perform a live accompaniment to some of Derek Jarmans experimental super-8 films, in the Turbine Hall of the Tate Modern !
Anyone else going ?


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"BlueKephra" wrote:
I'm off to london on Saturday to see Throbbing Gristle perform a live accompaniment to some of Derek Jarmans experimental super-8 films, in the Turbine Hall of the Tate Modern! Anyone else going?

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The grapevine has let me down on this occasion. Sounds amazing!

Please let us know how it goes...

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"wolf354" wrote:
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Strangely Fields of Nephilim are a band that mentioned Crowley and Spare a lot and tend to be ignored (they have ended for a few years now).

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John Zorn did 2 or 3 albums based on Crowley's material. Should be easy to look up.


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Three Fish recorded a version of the A ka dua mantra on the album "The Quiet Table" (1999). The track is titled "Chantreuse."

Jeff Ament of Pearl Jam is a founding member of Three Fish, and the Mark of the Beast is printed (amongst numerous other symbols) on one of their CDs - "No Code," if memory serves.


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.:Kjærlighet er loven, kjærlighet under vilje:.

Guess you will find some interesting reading here:
http://www.oto.no/mmm/index.html

I also have to mention three of my favourites these days:
Shining (you will find 10 amazing songs to listen to here:)
http://www.shining.no/v1/news.php
Backworld (is "the devil's plaything" one of the most beautiful songs ever written?)
http://www.backworld.com/
Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio
http://www.ordo-rosarius-equilibrio.net/

Enjoy!


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Another band to add to the list of those who have recorded tracks called "Moonchild" are While Angels Watch ( http://www.falling.org.uk ). They also do a fantastic rendition of the poem Walpurgis-Night which appears in the novel Moonchild.

Walpurgis-Night is on the Liber AL centenary compilation released by Horus CD ( http://www.horus.cz/www_hcd/releases.html ).

I know of 4 versions of the Hymn to Pan, done by:

The Russian OTO which you have all no doubt heard already. 🙂

Unto Ashes

Coph Nia - Also do an interpretation of the Gnostic Mass and much more of interest

Endura - their version is the best in my opinion and it appears on their album "The Great God Pan".

Most of these bands are 'for real' and not just using the Beasts words for effect so are worth checking out anyway.

Hmm, as I was planning a night out in London tonight think I should go book a ticket for the Tate Modern event too.


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Hi. Blood & Roses Kamera Records 12" E.P. Side B track 2: 'Love Under Will' Nick.


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The band Mudvayne, who associates themselves with the occult in their albums, paraphrases Liber AL in their song mercy, severity: "Pain of division is nothing, Joy of dissolution is everything."

The band Therion claims to have taken their name from a Celtic Frost album titled To Mega Therion, but then we all know where that title came from. But Therion hails from Dragon Rouge, so aside from their name, I'm not really sure how interested they are in A.C.

The band Behemoth also displays Thelemic images and titles. One of their albums is titled Thelema.6. Their song Decade of Therion uses as a chorus the words "Apo Pantoz Kakodaimonoz." There's many other Thelemic references in their albums.

The band DevilDriver declares "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" in their song Nothing's wrong?. In the booklet accompanying the CD, Dez Fafara, the vocalist, gives thanks to "The teachings of: Aleister Crowley," among others.

If I should think of more later, I'll post them.

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'Book of Lies' by the Fall, 'Aumgn' by Can (I think both of these may have been mentioned in an earlier thread by someone with a similar record collection to mine).


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The Can track is from the album Tago Mago. The Wikipedia article on this album states that "the name comes from a large rock formation off the cost of Ibiza that figures in the legend of Aleister Crowley". I don't remember reading anything about this ever. Is it a mistake?


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Unless I missed it earlier Badfreddy nobody has mentioned the most obvious one,

Sgt Peppers album cover...I think he is face # 62?

Great subject


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A little more contempory is Robbie Williams. He has expressed a lot of interest in AC in several interviews I have read . There is also a band called Perdurabo that has stuff posted on Youtube. I have no information on them though.

A little correction here too is in order. AC is face #2 on Sgt Pepper's (thanks to Mr John Lennon)


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Ian Gillan's "Abbey of Thelema" comes to mind.

And if we're mentioning Crowley's image on Sgt. Pepper, we would be remiss to not mention the initial pressing of Led Zeppelin III and the engraving of Do What Thou Wilt in the album run-off.


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There's an excellent and extensive list here: http://www.oto.no/mmm/mmm.html

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A couple other gothic/e.b.m. acts from the early '90s: yelworC [capitalzation intentional] and amGod (one member involved in both of those acts). I don't recall specific references in the songs themselves, but there was a yelworC release titled "A.I.W.A.S.S."

Hardcore techno's Rachel Kozak aka Hecate has some works that are inspired such as album "The Magick of Female Ejaculation" (reading, jtm? ;)). Album "Ascension Chamber" is based on the English qaballah and Kozak states in an interview (see below) that it was her "most Thelemic by far". Her label's website ( http://www.zhark.org) links to lashtal.com too.

Another resource: look up thelemicmusick.net on at the wayback machine (archive.org). Up until 2004 this was a site similar to the MMM one posted above. Some interviews that might be of interest are there.


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With regards to The Fall's Book of Lies track, here's Mark E. Smith interviewed in 2004;

Q: I wondered if the song Book of Lies was a reference to Crowley, whether he's a figure you're interested in.

MES: Well I do, but I keep it at the end of my arm. I've seen too many people dabble in that shit, you know. Like Genesis [P-Orridge] , he was into all that wasn't he. You've got to be very careful with that stuff. I do like his Tarot though, the Crowley one. I do still like that. The interpretations of the cards are so funny, some of them. The reverse one is like, you are a crawling cockroach of the worst order [laughter]. The normal one is, you're blocked, you're not doing the right thing, you should be a bit more open and think about what you want to do. And he says, you're a crawling cockroach of the worst order. Hah! You are like a bluebottle in human form. Imagine reading that to somebody. They'd probably kill themselves. [laughter] You are an average person, you'll never amount to anything. [more laughter]

Q: Do what thou wilt and those phrases.

MES: Oh that's still good.

And remember that M.E.S. claims to be psychic...
The Fugs released an album called It Crawled Into My Hand, Honest which featured a pic of A.C. from The Book of Lies and liner notes which referenced several Thelemic concepts. Their early stuff was produced by Harry Smith of Anthology fame, who was involved with luminaries like Kenneth Anger. For some obscure reason a recent Zappa archive recording entiled "MOFO" has Crowley in a long list of influences. I didn't know he cared...


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That's probably the longest period of relative lucidity in a MES interview ever! Hehe
There was a recent short discussion of the possible links between the songs Lucifer Over Lancashire and Lucifer Over London by The Fall and Current 93 respectively. Since Tibets interest in wierd fiction is well know, being a publisher of such, and MES has a love of old horror and ghost stories, seems Lewis Spence's short story (L.o.London) is the source of both.The only version of this story I've read was illustrated by AOS (though with a couple of his "masks" only). I wonder how much awareness Mark E Smith has of AOS? Judging from the amount of time Zos spent in the pub, I'd say they'd get on like a house on fire !


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Thanks BlueKephra I've had the song 'Lucifer Over Lancashire' lurking in the back of my mind ever since I saw it on a dodgy documentary when I was a lad but I never knew what band it was by. I'll try and track it down even tho I'm sure it will turn out to be a load of absolute bollocks. 😆

Another band who'se CD's I've very recently started listening to again are Babylon Whores. Can't think of any direct Crowley quotes in their music but the subject matter of their songs is generally very magick-centred. Their guitarist is now in a band called Mirrorion who are great fun too. Their recent album had a limited edition which contained a magick mirror! Someone fromthe Typhonian OTO wrote up a series of interpretations of the tracks from that album which can be read here. It's on the third link down at the left of the screen. 🙂


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Okay, so this really isn't an AC reference, but the Legendary Pink Dots have a song named "Agape" and a song named "Golden Dawn" on the same album (right after each other, in fact). Coincidence? I think not.


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On Celtic Frost's latest album "Monotheist", there is a song called 'Os Abysmi Vel Daath', and there is a somewhat lengthy commentary(for an album!) about the thoughts and inspiration that went into the song (easily one of the best) underneath the lyrics. Of course the title comes from the Liber of the same name. This is definitely a band with a reverance for Crowley, and seem to be students of the same. They are overtly Crowleyan in that they have used the Heptagram as their band logo since the early eighties, and named one of their albums (1985) To Mega Therion.

Most of the bands that profess a love of Crowley and the Occult in general are heavier bands. The use of his symbolism is all over the extreme metal scene. Dani Filth of "Cradle of Filth", for a famous example, has gone on the record talking about Crowley's influence on their philosophy. The band "Cathedral" has used the recording of Crowley reciting a Call of the Aethyr to great effect on the song Halo of Fire on the album VIIth Coming, but how involved any of them are is unknown to me. . .


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93 wolf

Gillian may have been Jesus, but Clapton is God.

I'll note that Page is the Hammer of the Gods and utilize the resultant LAShTAL.com indulgence to excuse my off-topic post.

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93

wasn't Ian Gillan in black sabbath for a while after dio?

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Here's a related link I stumbled upon.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/crowley_influence.htm

Many listed here have already been mentioned but a few seem to be unique. I recall a slight variant of "Love is the Law, Love Under Will," used by a Metal Grindcore band "Carcass," in a song called "Firmhand." They merely switch the Love to Hate.

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93

what carcass album is that song on?

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If I recall correctly it's from their Album : "Swansong"

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Let's not forget NOVO AEON by the Brasilian Raul Seixas with song writers Marcelo Motta and Paulo Coelho:

http://cliquemusic.uol.com.br/artistas/artistas.asp?Status=DISCO&nu_disco=3526


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An absolutely amazing collection of AC related musick, I had no idea.


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"Proteus" wrote:
I'll note that Page is the Hammer of the Gods and utilize the resultant LAShTAL.com indulgence to excuse my off-topic post.

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Glad to see that John Zorn was mentioned! His Moonchild (feat: Mike Patton, Zorn, and Joey Baron) and IAO are the most notably Crowley affected. If you get one or the other, pick up IAO, it is filled with many different genres and beautiful musick.
One that people do overlook (mainly due to it's obscurity) is Christian Death's The Path of Sorrows.
FIRST, this is NOT the Christian Death band that is around now, if you want to find this album, look up ROZZ WILLIAMS.
Rozz was quoted many times explaining his interest in Crowley and performance of adaptations of The Beast's rituals.
Onto the album; the Path of Sorrows is filled with references to Liber AL, Gematria, Crowley writings (an obvious one was The Book of Lies), and Kenneth Grant. But Crowley is not mentioned by name in the credits, only quick references to certain Tarot cards in the liner notes. Rozz didn't seem like he was trying to capitalize on the referencing of Crowley (like so many metal bands do, pushing the 'evil for evil's sake' motif) , but rather seemed like he had something to say on what he found.
The album can be taken a number of ways, something Rozz stressed in his work. He always kept his lyrics so you could take them any which way, allowing the listener ultimate freedom. Take apart the album, there are 10 tracks. You do the math!
Another point of Rozz Williams referencing Crowley is in one of his spoken word albums entitled Every King a Bastard Son. The composition's title is "The Beast". Though other tracks are very occult in nature, "The Beast" is the most obvious.

"...Soft blood flows in emerald starlight
Host of the labyrinth, fool or seer?
Prophet of wisdom, bathed in glory
Hour of the wolf is drawing near..."
--Hour of the Wolf

"...As I engage myself in prayer.
'Bring me through midnight to the sun!'
As I enflame myself with prayer
'Bring me through midnight to the sun!'
Everythings in motion, everything lies still
Through the veil of sorrow
And the pall of death..."
--The Path of Sorrows

If you'd like to know more about this interesting artist, check out rozznet.com or any of the other many sites dedicated to him.

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Hail Rozz
Before his time, like all the greats.


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All

I'd also add that John Squire from the "Stone Roses" set up a new band called the "Seahorses" and their first single was "Love is the Law". I have a tape cassette with a Mandala-like painting on the front apparently painted by Squire. The lyrics are somewhat surreal, and include:

"Now we know where we are going baby
We can lay back and enjoy the ride
Take in the sights and drown in our senses
Love is the law so take me deep inside

...

These waters run deep it's clear my little one
Blue velvet star sky not a sound
The light in your eyes the smile on your ruby lips
Tells me my lost soul is found"

More here:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/1597/seah.html

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Noticed this free download at LuLu:

http://www.lulu.com/content/822622


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Here is a link for an excellent thelemic band:

http://locomotive.arzrecords.com/


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"ameth441" wrote:
93

wasn't Ian Gillan in black sabbath for a while after dio?

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yes for one album.... "Born Again" came out in "83"


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I think one of the fancy 3D pictures in the cover art of Tool's 10,000 Days has a deck of Crowley's Thoth tarot cards. It's in the same picture as the pile of books (which I don't recognize, BTW). This perhaps isn't significant, but I decided to share it anyway, if only because I found it myself! 🙂

Tool may have other references to Crowley, but perhaps bigger Tool fans than me know more about these.


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"zardoz" wrote:
John Zorn did 2 or 3 albums based on Crowley's material. Should be easy to look up.

Yes, I think I should look more into Zorn. I think I haven't really heard him before, but I was amazed to find in YoTtube some of his Crowley related songs, such as "Ghosts of Thelema", with Mike Patton doing the vocal art!

Patton's Faith No More was one of my favorite bands when I was a kid, especially the albums "Angel Dust" and "King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime".


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And there's the track 'Scarlet Woman' by Chakra, B-side of the Marabo 7" of Crowley's two poems - this one also features Kenneth Grant on backing vocals.
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Not forgetting Genesis P-Orridge's repetition x4 of "Love is the Law..." on Throbbing Gristle's first single 'United' (Industrial Records, 1978).


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As a little nightcap, a couple more from the early 'Industrial revolution' period:
The Marabo single featuring 'La Gitana' and 'The Pentagram' provided several groups with useful bits of Crowley's presence - Throbbing Gristle used a tape of the latter reading as a concert intro, evidenced by the live LP 'Rafters'; David Tibet used a loop of the line "Arise o man in thy strength..." as the basis for a track of improvised clonking on 23 Skidoo's LP 'The Culling is Coming' (1983), whilst the first Current 93 release, a 12" titled 'Lashtal' (which I believe was also the first release by J. Balance), had a snatch of Crowley intoning one of the Aethyrs as a lock groove in the A-side lead-out , also appearing in the remixed version on the back.
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93! There is a now defunct Canadian Band "http://www.teaparty.com/", Jeff Martin their main songwriter and guitarist is greatly influenced by J. Page and there are numerous not so subtle Thelemic references in all their albums. They even opened for Page and Plant here in Montreal when they toured with the Egyptian Orchestra...
93, 93/93.
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