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I've come across this interesting quote attributed to George Bernard Shaw:

"Imagination is the beginning of creation. You imagine what you desire, you will what you imagine and at last you create what you will"

It strikes me that this comes remarkably close to Spare's equation of "Will, Desire and Belief", especially if you argue that imagination and belief are roughly equivalent (you probably can).


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Michael Staley
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"Chrischibnall" wrote:
I've come across this interesting quote attributed to George Bernard Shaw:

"Imagination is the beginning of creation. You imagine what you desire, you will what you imagine and at last you create what you will"

It strikes me that this comes remarkably close to Spare's equation of "Will, Desire and Belief", especially if you argue that imagination and belief are roughly equivalent (you probably can).

I think that many artists, musicians and writers are aware of the vast potential of imagination. I love the passage from J.F.C. Fuller quoted in Zos Speaks!:

The gods are not persons to be seen or spoken to, their utterances are delivered in oracles and these are normally cryptic and difficult to understand. There is a Pythoness in every one of us, and a Delphic cavern, namely our imagination, into which we must retire if we are to accomplish anything of worth.

And also a passage used by Lynch to introduce earky screenings of Inland Empire:

We are like the spider. We weave our life and then move along in it. We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives in the dream. This is true for the entire universe.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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 Anonymous
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Interesting quote! The subject is one which increasingly fascinates me.

Imagination imo is the glue which binds symbol to fact : letter to sound, sound to meaning, etc. This meaning-giving ability of the human imagination is a Poetic thing - allusion, analogy, inference, rhyme, etc.

What was Crowley's profession ? 😉


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 Anonymous
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Human consciousness is what construes reality to itself (and, perhaps, contains it - though at that level, the term "human" hardly applies!).


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Michael Staley
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"Noctifer" wrote:
Human consciousness is what construes reality to itself (and, perhaps, contains it - though at that level, the term "human" hardly applies!).

An interesting quote from Spare in that connection:

I believe in the life; in the flesh of infinite variety. We are eternity, with – as now – a fleeting and fluxing consciousness. Possibilities of being are limitless, because there is no total of experience or memory. Our potentialities are within this all-spaciousness, reined in by dimensionals and senses.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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 Anonymous
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Michael that is a gorgeous quote from Spare!


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And in The Book Of Pleasure Zos was directly associated with imagination in the Sigils Psychology of Believing illustration. And Zos is in on sense the "self", the body. What constitutes the symbol of "self"? Some believe its a synthesis between the X and + (moon and sun), others again would consider an extra ingredient, a third circle. If you couple three circles belief, will and desire, this symbol appears in the upper middle part of the constellation.


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