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James
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Hi,

Can anyone confirm, for certain, the address of AOS' s birthplace?

I have seen the entry in the 1881 census as Bromfield House but does anyone know the whereabouts of it?

Regards,

Jamie


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Snowhill. Southwark . London. Mostly used as cheap houses for police officers. Demolished after WW2 bombing. Its now a loading bay behind Snowhill Police station.
Best Wishes Robert.


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James
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Thanks for this,

Snowhill is in The City at Smithfields, just off Farringdon rather than Southwark which is south of the river.

By the way don't suppose you know where he is buried?

Thanks again

Jamie


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OK. Just to clarify. Spare was born in Southwark. London. There have been a lot of boundry change since Spare's time. For example most of the the Southwark places Spare frequented are now in Lambeth.
As the City grows the Goverment keeps changing the boundarys for electoral reasons.
The Spare's address was 10 Blomfield House. Alterbury Court. St Sepulchre . Southwark. London.
Spare's two brothers John and William were born here as was his sister Susey (Cissy).
The Blomfield house tenements were used as housing for single police officers, tradesmen and other rather lowly paid people.
The buildings had communal toilets and washing facilitys and were not very pleasant.
There was no free health care, or pensions except for police officers and that was very small.
Social welfare did not exist nor was there any old age pension.
Gangs of criminals roamed the streets including child strippers-people who pulled children into alley ways and stole their clothes for the small amount of money they could get for them. This happened twice in one week in a street only two streets away from where the Spare's lived.
The laws were tough. A fourteen year old boy was sent to prison for two months with hard labour for stealing a carboard box when Spare was eight.
It wasn't long since slavery had been abolished in the USA. When Spare's father was a young man slavery was still legal in the USA.
Amongst the Spare's neighbours were the Merritts at no 11 who were boot repairers.
The Pitkins at no 16 who were book folders. The Spaldings at no 13 who were dairy workers.
The Carters at no 12 who were needle workers.
Spare was not born into anything approaching luxury and today we would call it out and out poverty.
Spare's Father took a second job at Smithfield meat market and over the years saved enough money for the family to move to Kenington Park but even there all the children had to go out to work at the earliest age possible, John as a silk salesman, William as a soliciors clerk and so on. Even with six incomes they had to take in lodgers to make ends meet.

Yes the location of Spare grave is known but there is a protocol for being told where it is. You must agree to certain terms.
Imagine if Crowley had had a tombstone there would be nothing left of it because of his fans chipping little bits off. So Spare's grave remains a secret until you are trusted enough. There is a bush growing on it and you may take a few seeds from the plant that is all.
Best Wishes Robert.
PS After the move to Kenington Park Spare's last sibling Ellen Victoria was born in 1899. One of her sons is Spare's only surviving relative.


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James
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Thanks again for all this info Robert.

Regards,

Jamie


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