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scarobminor
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Hi any comments on this? - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/An-Interesting-Austin-Osman-Spare-related-artifact_W0QQitemZ260004266235QQihZ016QQcategoryZ20132QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And if this is true would anyone know the name of the artist who faked this picture and if there's anywhere on the web or elsewhere to find out about them and to see more of their own work?


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kidneyhawk
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I would ask Bazelek at Fulgur Publishing or Michael Staley (who has posted a few of Spare's images in the gallery and seems to be very knowledgable about things "Sparean."

I'm "new" to Spare, hungry to read more of his work and absorb more images-just ordered Kenneth Grant's ZOS SPEAKS (and can't wait for the postman to deliver it!). Almost $100 US dollars it was but I was more than happy to part with it...

The art (fake) IS very cool. Christies authenticated it? I would definitely check with the folks at Fulgur. They have a very cool website and Robert, the publisher, is on this site-so is Staley.

This should be an interesting little Mystery Investigation.

A case for...

SIMON IFF!!!!

Kyle

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scarobminor
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Good idea, I'll see what the guys at Fulgur have to say. You're not going to be dissapointed with 'Zos Speaks!' I've had a copy for a few years and there's just so much infomation in it, especially in the 'Logomachy of Zos' section and the all the pictures look stunning.
I was thinking it'd be nice if someone (Fulgur probably) could publish a book of the complete collected works of Spares art. I realise this would probably involve years of work as his art is in so many different private collections and getting permission to photograph it all could be tricky. Hope it could happen at some point though.


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The picture in question is indeed a fake and a source of some controversy amongst those (innocently) involved in it's past. Yes, it was sold by Christies and yes, it was exhibited in that exhibition and appears in 'Artist, Occultist, Sensualist'. It was a late minute addition to the catalogue though, I understand there were reservations about its authenticity by some quarters during the exhibition itself.

There have in fact been a few fakes AOS pictures to surface over the years, this was the most prominent though I think the buyer is being fairly hopeful with a starting price of £250.

In a sense it's entirely unlike something AOS would have produced for a number of reasons, but a basic level, sure, it has the look of an original.

Los


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scarobminor
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Hi Los,
Any idea who painted the picture? Is it fairly recent or do you think it may have been one of Spares students? Incidently does anyone know anything about who Spare taught art to and if they are still alive today and painting? I know he was classically trained as an artist but I'd be interested in finding out more about his theories and methods of drawing other than the few snippets available in various books and his brief essay about automatic drawing. Most works on him seem to dwell more on his writing and magical lifestyle and I'd love to be able to find out about his ideas on form, colour and composistion and on painting in general.


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The painting probably dates from the 1980s at the very earliest.

From what I understand, and I'm free to be corrected, but Spare's art classes were quite formal in the sense that he taught technique, colour, using mixed media etc rather than 'here's how you paint some satyrs' so its unlikely that his students were producing art that imitated his and I doubt he would have encouraged it anyway.

But again details are hazy on even how long the classes lasted and what kind of background the students had. I'm sure others on Lashtal might have more informaiton on these details.

It's worth noting that a few fake Crowley paintings have also appeared on the market over the years, including one just last year but the 'artist' in that case unmasked himself, admitted it was him and explained why he did it.

I could be wrong, but I have my own suspicions about who's responsible for the 'fire demon' picture and the reasons for its production, I doubt it was monetary.

Los


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"kidneyhawk" wrote:
I would ask . . . Michael Staley (who has posted a few of Spare's images in the gallery and seems to be very knowledgable about things "Sparean."

I'd concur with much of what has been said by several contributors to this thread, in particular by Los. Personally I don't care for the picture in question, and regard it as poor. Usually Spare's line is flowing and dynamic, which makes it difficult to fake convincingly.

Los mentioned that there have been a few forgeries of Crowley's artwork over the years. A friend of mine lost his job at a bookshop many years ago because he was instructed by his employers to go to Germany and pick up a couple of Crowley pictures which had been offered to them. Although having extertise when it came to Crowley first editions, he had no similar experience when it came to Crowley's art, but still carried the can.

The canons of many artists are known to be bloated with forgeries - Van Gogh, Picasso, Dali, for instance. In the case of Dali, his "subversion" in signing blank pieces of paper, even signing the work of others, makes it altogether possible that there are more fake Dalis than originals. I doubt that this is the first time that Spare has been forged, nor the last. A couple of years ago an auction house in the midlands carried what purported to be an "automatic" by Spare, just about the most pathetic piece of scrawl upon which it has ever been my misfortune for my gaze to alight. The auction house had no provenance, and the chap I spoke to even agreed with me that it did not look like a Spare, but they declined to remove it from auction. Basically, you buy "as seen" from auction houses, I'm afraid

"kidneyhawk" wrote:
A case for... SIMON IFF!!!!

Lutz? Would he be interested?


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