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 Anonymous
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31/03/2010 6:23 pm  

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

Greetings everyone, I have made this thread because I have to do an English assignment that involves writing about someone who has been shunned by society and AC was the first person that came to mind. The problem is that I don't have enough time to read through all of Crowley's material to get the evidence I need for the 4 paragraphs I need to write. All I am asking for is any segments in Crowley's writing where he addresses the issue of being shunned or disliked by society and how he felt about it, and in what book or chapter it was found in. Thanks a lot to those of you who answer I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to help me. That is the reason I love the Thelemic community here on Lashtal!!! Thanks again.

-TylerDP

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spike418
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31/03/2010 6:50 pm  
"aspiringmagician" wrote:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

Greetings everyone, I have made this thread because I have to do an English assignment that involves writing about someone who has been shunned by society and AC was the first person that came to mind. The problem is that I don't have enough time to read through all of Crowley's material to get the evidence I need for the 4 paragraphs I need to write. All I am asking for is any segments in Crowley's writing where he addresses the issue of being shunned or disliked by society and how he felt about it, and in what book or chapter it was found in. Thanks a lot to those of you who answer I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to help me. That is the reason I love the Thelemic community here on Lashtal!!! Thanks again.

-TylerDP

Love is the law, love under Will.

You want us to do your homework for you ? 😯

Tsk tsk, youth of today, blah blah, harumph, when I were a lad etc etc etc..........


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 Anonymous
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31/03/2010 6:59 pm  

no I'm not asking for my homework to be done for me I was just asking if anyone remembers Crowley addressing this topic in any of his works, and if so which ones....so I can do MY OWN homework. I know exactly what i need to write, I just need to find a couple of quotes from the source about how he felt about it to slip into the paragraphs. Thank you.

-TylerDP


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 Anonymous
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31/03/2010 7:47 pm  

aspiringmagician,
spike418 was indulging in what is called playfull, good humoured teasing. If you don't want to read the sources then perhaps you should chose someone else to base your four paragraphs upon, try basing your homework on someone you do know something about, otherwise if you haven't any familiarity with the subject then you will not stand up under your teachers potential cross examination.
Best of luck and kind regards,


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 Anonymous
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31/03/2010 7:55 pm  

I meant choose not chose cursed time out on edit facility. 🙂


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 Anonymous
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31/03/2010 7:58 pm  

I do know about him, a lot actually. I know exactly what to write and have already written it I just don't have access to some of the works I believe HE addresses the subject in, such as his confessions. Like I said twice already.....all I need to know is where in his writing he addresses the fact that he has been shunned as I need to have quotes supporting what is in my writing. I already know it's out there as I have read about it in secondary sources, but I need some direct quotes from him in his own words. Plus I can't think of anyone else who has been shunned by society that I know enough about to write on. Thanks again.


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 Anonymous
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31/03/2010 8:08 pm  

Fair enough, in that case check out articles and essays/downloads section and I believe there will be numerous instances of such material from newspaper articles that should help.
Regards,


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OKontrair
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31/03/2010 8:34 pm  

Why not consult the instances where other people have come to his defence? For instance "An Open Letter to Lord Beaverbrook" by Norman Mudd (but lots of AC input) and "The Legend of Aleister Crowley" by P.R.Stephensen.

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Michael Staley
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01/04/2010 12:43 am  
"aspiringmagician" wrote:
I know exactly what to write and have already written it

So why are you asking us?


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01/04/2010 1:01 am  

Wow. So much hostility and lack of support (aside from OKontrair) towards someone who is simply, genuinely asking for a little direction. How sad.

aspiringmagician, I wish I could help, but I'm not familiar enough with Crowley's personal writing to be able to point you to a specific page number.

MichaelStaley, he's asking for references so he can provide quotes directly from Crowley's own words to support what he has written. Apparently, you don't understand the importance of verifying what you believe to be true with direct evidence that supports your claims. How... interesting.


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Michael Staley
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01/04/2010 1:04 am  
"mika" wrote:
How... interesting.

Yes, how... interesting.


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newneubergOuch2
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01/04/2010 1:29 am  

I find Michael interesting - I enjoy how he can post and debate with an ongoing civility and politeness.


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Michael Staley
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01/04/2010 1:32 am  
"mika" wrote:
aspiringmagician, I wish I could help, but I'm not familiar enough with Crowley's personal writing to be able to point you to a specific page number.

Poor aspiringmagician. How will he cecover from this blow?


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phthah
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01/04/2010 1:59 am  

93 AM,

"aspiringmagician" wrote:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

Greetings everyone, I have made this thread because I have to do an English assignment that involves writing about someone who has been shunned by society and AC was the first person that came to mind. The problem is that I don't have enough time to read through all of Crowley's material to get the evidence I need for the 4 paragraphs I need to write. All I am asking for is any segments in Crowley's writing where he addresses the issue of being shunned or disliked by society and how he felt about it, and in what book or chapter it was found in. Thanks a lot to those of you who answer I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to help me. That is the reason I love the Thelemic community here on Lashtal!!! Thanks again.

-TylerDP

Love is the law, love under Will.

You might try approaching it from the standpoint of A.C. being vilified by the yellow press as "the wickedest man in the world" etc. A good book for info on that would be "The Legend of Aleister Crowley" by P.R. Stephensen. Also, you can get info about that in any of the many biographies.

BTW, when you write the Thelemic Greetings the L should be capital in "Law" as in "the whole of the Law". Also, the "w" is lower case for "will", as in "love under will". I hope this is helpful.

93 93/93
phthah


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01/04/2010 5:49 am  
"mika" wrote:
Wow. So much hostility and lack of support (aside from OKontrair) towards someone who is simply, genuinely asking for a little direction. How sad.

Perhaps it's just me, mika, but I don't see hostility in any of the responses, especially given the content of the Guidelines:

Submissions should NOT take the form of 'newbie' questions along the lines of "Where do I find information on..." (unless the question is quite specific and of a reasonably scholarly nature, and/or the information being requested is not generally known or available). Posts of this kind are likely to be deleted by the editor. LAShTAL.COM is not a beginners' site and many alternative sites exist to fulfill that role.

"mika" wrote:
MichaelStaley, he's asking for references so he can provide quotes directly from Crowley's own words to support what he has written.

He's asking for help with his homework. Period.

"mika" wrote:
Apparently, you don't understand the importance of verifying what you believe to be true with direct evidence that supports your claims. How... interesting.

Ah, I take it back. Now, I've seen a hostile post! 😉

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