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kidneyhawk
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Someone had mentioned watching the film "Wickedest Man in the World," the British Crowley Bio.

Well, my wife and I just got our hands on a copy and watched it yesterday...it was quite good but, whereas it didn't try to villify and "expose" the Beast, it really did have a sensational and somewhat unbalanced angle, I thought. It was filmed like a combination between the Blair Witch Project and a film to watch when on acid. The focus on the more lurid aspects of Crowley's career totally jumped over many important details that round things out-again he was depicted at Hastings as a worn down, flacid shell of a man, questioning if his life of bloody debauch was worth it. No mention of the MASSIVE book-writing, painting, correspondences, tutorings etc that accompanied all his occult adventures.

And of course, the narrator's voice sounded just like Anthony Hopkins, breathing and seething with perverse delight over quotes culled from the "cannon" that focused on any sort of dark impulse.

Without having a broader view of Crowley's life, one does tend to walk away from this bio feeling that he was a completely dark personality. I have no words of "defense" here...no need to "justify the man." Again, just the take that his life is well-worth consideration as a whole to understand how our own imperfections, obsessions, personality flaws etc can still be the matrix through which our Angel comes through-but also the important point that working to perfect ourselves and overcome our internal "yuck" is to create a space whereby that Angel can truly fly.

There is a statement in the film that regardless of Crowley's flaws and indulgences, he is to be admired as having "pushed the envelope" further and with greater passion than anyone had seen before...(debatable but stick with me).

There is a line from the Killing Joke song "Gratitude" where Jaz passionately states: "We were just a mirror to show what you could do."

I think each and every one of us is "called" to take it a thousand times further than Crowley...that doesn't mean "At the Abbey, they were f*cking goats, therefore WE shall f*ck ELEPHANTS!!!"

If we can throw out the bathwater while holding tight to the baby (of the Abyss), I really think we shall raise the Crowned and Conquering Child into full adulthood-and, per Nietzsche, become the "Ever Rolling Wheel" as the Wrynecks Shriek and the Company of Heaven Sings!

Or we can all go eat our Fa Fa beans!

93 to All!

Kyle


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I too enjoyed this documentary on Crowley, "The Wickedest Man in the World".

I'm rather new to the study of A.C. and Thelema and I thought that a good documentary could whet my appetite. Problem was, finding them!

I think if you enjoyed "The Wickedest Man in the World", you'd probably enjoy the other British Crowley documentary called "The Other Loch Ness Monster". It's roughly half as long (30 minutes) but I feel as though it did a better job in not trying to blatantly vilify the man. This film obvioulsy talks more about his home Boleskine, and what went on there, past and present. I really enjoyed this as a follow up to "The Wickedest Man in the World".

I believe that I found both these films from a website called Media Underground. Once you sign up (for free) you can dowload both these films via bittorrent. There is also another (very short) documentary available there called "Aleister Crowley - Without Walls" and I believe that these are the only 3 documentaries currently available about Crowley.

For future reference, check out:

http://www.newaeonfilms.com/perdurabo.html

This looks to be the best upcoming documentary on Crowley with supporters such as Lon Milo DuQuette and Richard Kaczynski.

I hope you find this info useful.

93,

Cronus


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If we're talking about the same programme, it was part of a 4-part series called Masters Of Darkness. The whole series had a somewhat sensationalist tone and while not hysterical or News Of The World-ish, didn't exactly offer anything new in information or opinion.And who IS that redhaired guy they keep trotting out as a Crowley expert on TV ??
The main reason for watching that series for me was that every episode contained music by Coil, in fact the first part which was about Rasputin had 99% of its soundtrack by Coil, the others to a lesser degree.The other parts were about John Dee (which I think I enjoyed the most) and De Sade which I didnt get to see.


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I'll have to double check and see what the series is called (I've only watched it once). It's a bootleg that we got off of ebay.

Also: I'm embarassed to say (I feel the whole of Lashtal cringing) I've not heard COIL. Of course, I've heard OF them-and I've checked out their Spare gallery but, alas, have none of their music.

Any recommendations for where to start with COIL? It sounds like I probably won't go wrong just picking up a disc by the album art alone, though...

Also, BK...

Wonderful artwork!!! I am especially taken by the End of The World image...truly fantastic! I am reminded of Max Ernst a bit...wonderful incorporation of the Runes...esp. Eihwaz.

Kyle


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Haha, Don't worry about "the whole of Lashtal cringing", as they're all metal-heads for the most part !
As for Coil, everyone recommends different things, but the albums Music To Play In The Dark part 1 and 2 are as luminous a place to start as any. STILL no-one knows what language Jhonn Balance is singing in on "Batwings( A Limnal Hymn)", but it doesn't matter as its a severely beautiful piece of music (thats on 2 btw).But you'll find magickal content in any one of their releases as it was a deeply ingrained part of Balance's life till the day he died.
Thanks for the compliments about the pics, I have to admit to having made a mistake in the particular pic you're referring to, which is a bit embarrasing, but only detracts a little. I like your stuff too, you should put some more in the gallery.


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BlueKephra - 'And who IS that redhaired guy they keep trotting out as a Crowley expert on TV ??'

As much a mystery as Aron Paramor, which has got to be some kind of made up name. The only commentator in the Masters of Darkness programme who wasn't identified by an on-screen caption was the guy who said, 'a genius, a fucking genius for christ's sake, surrounded by all these tiny people.' Is that the guy you mean? I'm dying to know who he was.


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Yes, thats the guy ! I have seen him in something else, also talking about Crowley.Seems to be a bit of a rent-an-expert, only no-one knows who he is. Oddly enough he reminds me very much of Radio DJ Gary Crowley.


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As much a mystery as Aron Paramor, which has got to be some kind of made up name.

You're definitely not the first to be suspicious of this "expert" who recites Liber Samekh atrociously and hasn't an original thought about Crowley. It seems he got the job because the programme makers were looking firstly for an actor – there was some stuff on him here.


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Ok-bear we me, each and all-I know I started this whole thread but I only watched the film ONCE and am now just waking up with Folger's in my cup...we're talking about the guy who sits in the Pyramid and says "it must have been one hellof honeymoon..." and seems slightly crazed as he describes and re-enacts Crowley's workings...?

Yeah, I was alos wondering WHO is this guy and WHY are there no captions to say who he is...(Colin Wilson gets a caption! Where is Mr. Out of Breath When Hiking Across the Desert's caption???)

And I suppose I don't care that much...it's a really fun little film to watch...if we can describe it in its own "genre" of "spooky occultness." One's impression of the Abbey was a place a perpetual darkness in where everyone was drenched in non-stop evil until they all went insane and Crowley moved on...the decision to use a shaky flashlight to hit on the wall-art (crumbling and faded) felt very much like old reproductions of the Sistine Ceiling, all besmeared with candle smoke...it creates a "feel" but the original art was brilliant and flashing (now restored). Just like we're so used to seeing the Mona Lisa with a million spider-web cracks in the paint...of course, this sort of angle (making it all as spooky as possible) is what gets a show some financial backing-the world wants all the lurid details of perverted poetry, devilish doings and stylized re-enactments...but the world doesn't want THELEMA.

Israel Regardie said somewhere in one of his introductions to Crowley that after their break he felt all this disgust for Crowley and would disregard him-until happening upon a particular book where he would then be forced to pause and reflect: "This is Beautiful, genius, how could this bastard have written something so perfect, I can't deny its worth..." I really admire Regardie a lot for his approach to Crowley. He got to experience firsthand getting slammed and hurt and yet really tried to not toss that baby out with the bathwater...a much MUCH easier task for all of us: we can read and read and DECIDE "Oh, this is bullshit" or "What a dick" but then dog-ear and underline those things that fuel our our own singular Paths. Regardie had a much more personal investment in the whole thing...he didn't just witness some ugly stuff, he was personally embarassed and attacked after pouring out so much energy in service to the Beast...

Knowing that Aiwass found the Aeonic Channel in the Man, Aleister Crowley, and that he was the "right guy" for job, if you will, it really it encouraging to see the "Children of a Future Age" (US) GROWING and fanning that flame with a real sense of Agape as well as Perceptual Broadness...

The World sees candlelight on dark walls in a crumbling house...and we see the World Itself.

IO THELEMA.

Laughter and Coffee,

Kyle


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Hi, has anyone noticed that Aron Paramor plays the part of one of the two policemen who appear in the early part of the new 'Sweeny Todd' movie.
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Well spotted! Thanks for the info.

I see he's also done some bit parts in UK TV soaps: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660919/

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found some links for those who haven't seen

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sorry


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A little background on "Masters of Darkness". I was hired to take part in the Crowley documentary, as were John Bonner and Gerald Suster. It was me in the robe and hood doing the LBRP, and all three of us were interviewed. Aron Paramor (I believe an ex-TOPY member) was not involved at this stage. The documentary was supposed to be sympathetic to Crowley.
When it was finished, Channel 4 decided they didn't like the tone and ordered the producers to re-write and re-cut - and to make 2 other documentaries to make up the "Masters of Darkness" trilogy. The original director rang me up to warn me, and sure enough, all the sympathetic interviews were cut.
I was furious, because not only had I been tricked into taking part in an "expose" rather than a serious documentary, they got me doing the LBRP, signing the Abra-Melin oath as Perdurabo etc etc for nothing. I threatened to sue and they paid me off, a few hundred quid.
The unfortunate aspect of this is that this was the last time Gerald Suster was filmed, AFAIK, and the "footage" has gone (it was probably digital anyway), although having said that the director said it was unusable - they made the mistake of filming Gerald at 5 pm rather than before 11 (as I would have recommended) and he was drunk as a skunk. Bless.

There is one mystery though. A woman in Scotland, at a Templar conference, said she had seen me in a Crowley documentary - I had never met her before and vice versa and she had no reasson to connect me to Thelema. I definitely didn't appear in the Masters of Darkness unhooded, so it is possible that my interview, and perhaps John Bonner's too, have been used in a Scottish programme on Crowley without our knowledge or consent. Any info gladly received!

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"wolf354" wrote:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law

"BlueKephra" wrote:
Haha, Don't worry about "the whole of Lashtal cringing", as they're all metal-heads for the most part !
As for Coil, everyone recommends different things, but the albums Music To Play In The Dark part 1 and 2 are as luminous a place to start as any. STILL no-one knows what language Jhonn Balance is singing in on "Batwings( A Limnal Hymn)", but it doesn't matter as its a severely beautiful piece of music (thats on 2 btw).But you'll find magickal content in any one of their releases as it was a deeply ingrained part of Balance's life till the day he died.
Thanks for the compliments about the pics, I have to admit to having made a mistake in the particular pic you're referring to, which is a bit embarrasing, but only detracts a little. I like your stuff too, you should put some more in the gallery.

...can't resist to go a little of topic...
Maybe most of my brain is a metalhead... but then Coil is one of my favorite bands.
"Music to play in the Dark vol.2" is very good because of the Hellraiser Themes" (that where never used). Better a more poppy and easy to ear is "The Anal Staircase". There "sweetest" track is "Never" from "The Angelic Conversation" Soundtrack - probably there Master piece.
Of course that for whom enjoy (and can) there more strange work is Time Machine".
There music can be completely different from record to record, don't be surprised.

Love is the law, love under will
Best regards

and I can't resist pointing out that the Hellraiser themes aren't on MTPITD II, ( you're thinking of Unnatural History II , probably). A friend recently interviewed Clive Barker , and being a Coil fan himself was going to ask him about the possibility of using the Coil themes in the Barker helmed remake that's on the horizon, haven't heard what his response was, I'll have to ask.
"The New Backwards" which is the 2nd disc in the vinyl edition of The Ape Of Naples includes a track called "Paint Me As A Dead Soul" - just to attempt a vague bit of on-topicness. 😆


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