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 Anonymous
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17/11/2006 2:23 pm  

I've seen the picture of the ring that belonged to Crowley on this site and really became interested...who owns it nowadays and what's the price of it? Who knows, maybe in a few years I will be able to buy it... 😀 At least, I hope so...
And also...are there any else rings that belonged to Crowley? Or maybe any else jewelary?
Maria Sikkert


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teth93
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17/11/2006 4:26 pm  

93 So far as I remember two OTO rings survives, one in gold with the cartouche of Ankh-F-N-Khonsu that is passed from OHO to OHO, and one with a gnostic symbol (equivalent of Baphomet).

Other OTO & Masonic (Memphis&Misraim) jewelry survives as well ; some can be seen in Grant's "Remebering AC".

Unfortunately I fear that the most interesting item, his wooden rosy cross (with a star saphire from Ceylon in the middle of it - see Equinox IV.2 ) used in Algeria during his enochian workings has been lost/robbed/sold (maybe during his life time, as he stopped to mention it in his diaries).

I've seen his silvery french watch, now in the hands of a private collector - nice but nothing more.

93, 93/93


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the_real_simon_iff
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17/11/2006 8:18 pm  

93, Maria!

The ring http://www.lashtal.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-782 was sold for 2.300 pounds. Unfortunately the auction results list doesn't show the names of the buyers (like in the earlier Sotheby's catalogues) but rumour has it that Mr.Page bought it, which probably makes it not-for-sale, but I assume its price would now be something like four times of the prize in 1995. Some other items sold at the same auction are these: http://www.lashtal.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-344 His walking stick on the left went for 3.910 pounds, his "talisman for sexual potency and power over women" on the upper right went for 1.840 pounds and the cigarette case for 1.610 pounds. Books by him in that auction sold also rather cheap (compared to today), like a signed Book of Thoth for 800 pounds. When I remember right another walking stick went for 5.000 dollars four years ago on ebay, and the belt buckle http://www.lashtal.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-964 was also something like 10.000 dollars a few years back (if I remember correctly). Browsing through old auction catalogues is the best way to get you down to earth when you are just about to feel too good. To endure this is one of the main challenges for members of AC-DC, the Aleister Crowley Dependant Collective.

Good luck raising the funds!

Love=Law
Lutz

P.S. Of course one should never forget that every now and then some "haunted" Crowley rings pop up on ebay and also sell pretty well - computer-carved or not!


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 Anonymous
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18/11/2006 12:09 am  
"the_real_simon_iff" wrote:
93, Maria!

The ring http://www.lashtal.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-782 was sold for 2.300 pounds. Unfortunately the auction results list doesn't show the names of the buyers (like in the earlier Sotheby's catalogues) but rumour has it that Mr.Page bought it, which probably makes it not-for-sale, but I assume its price would now be something like four times of the prize in 1995. Some other items sold at the same auction are these: http://www.lashtal.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-344 His walking stick on the left went for 3.910 pounds, his "talisman for sexual potency and power over women" on the upper right went for 1.840 pounds and the cigarette case for 1.610 pounds. Books by him in that auction sold also rather cheap (compared to today), like a signed Book of Thoth for 800 pounds. When I remember right another walking stick went for 5.000 dollars four years ago on ebay, and the belt buckle http://www.lashtal.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-964 was also something like 10.000 dollars a few years back (if I remember correctly). Browsing through old auction catalogues is the best way to get you down to earth when you are just about to feel too good. To endure this is one of the main challenges for members of AC-DC, the Aleister Crowley Dependant Collective.

Good luck raising the funds!

Love=Law
Lutz

P.S. Of course one should never forget that every now and then some "haunted" Crowley rings pop up on ebay and also sell pretty well - computer-carved or not!

I was actually the guy who catalogued all that stuff...!! Would it be churlish to mention the images uploaded are copyright of Sothebys? Probably!

bazelek


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lashtal
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18/11/2006 1:02 am  

Thank you for pointing out the copyright status of the images. In accordance with applicable UK legislation I am required now to remove the images pending clearance from the copyright holder.

As an aside, perhaps users with comments regarding the copyright status of material on LAShTAL.COM would let me have their observations by email and not publish them in a public forum.

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 Anonymous
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18/11/2006 2:47 pm  

well, as far as I understand, it's difficul to find items that belonged to Crowley in past, right? but anyway i'll try to:) by the way...if u know any sites with old auction catalogues where I can find names of nowaday's owners of Crowley's things, please tell me, ok?
Maria Sikkert


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 Anonymous
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20/02/2007 4:47 am  

The Ank Af An Khonsu ring wasn't meant to be passed from OHO to OHO, it just happened to be Crowley's seal ring that he would use to seal charters of import. It was HIS personal ring. There is another ring that was said to represent A.'.A.'. leadership and is referenced in some A.'.A.'. documents but that ring was destroyed long before AC died. It was melted down and turned into a necklace for one of Crowley's lovers.


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 Anonymous
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03/10/2008 1:26 pm  

93.

On looking at many of the photograhs of AC and especially in the 'netherwood' days the great seal ring is depicted. The ring often appers on different fingers and indeed different hands. AC was very photogenic, and always seemed to relish 'the pose' and aim the ring and of course the pipe at the camera. Does anyone know what happened to the ring? Is there a more detailed picture of it, and what exactly were the hieroglyphics engraved in the cartouche. I had recently seen a Crowley letter for sale, which most of you will be aware, posted from Aston Clinton, and bearing the seal, but I could not decipher it. Any help would be appreciated.

93/93


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lashtal
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03/10/2008 2:51 pm  

As is often the case, a search of this site produces at least some of the answers...

Jermyn, I've linked your new thread to an old one which provides much of the information you need.

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lashtal
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03/10/2008 5:09 pm  

The seal...

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Bedazzled
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04/10/2008 2:38 pm  

I remember The Sorceror's Apprentice used to do quite a good facsimile of the seal ring.


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