INTERNATIONAL PRESENTATION OF THELEMA ABBEY RESTORE AND MUSEUM PROJECT WITH CONFERENCE ABOUT ALEISTER CROWLEY HISTORY IN SICILY, PHILOSOPHY AND MAGICK AND VIDEO PROJECTION OF INEDIT STUFF
They have shown themselves incapable of such an enterprise.
Greetings all
I think it’s time for an update:
In January, a month off our deadline, I e-mailed Mr. Russo, to tell him that we have founded the non-profit, but haven’t started the fundraising yet. I also asked him to inform me if he has decided to accept one of the offers he said he had. In this case we’d have to change our course or, most likely, dissolve the organization. I haven’t got any reply from him, yet –and perhaps I’ll never will-, but as long as the Abbey stands there ready to collapse, we have an aim.
I also contacted S.O.T.V.L., an Italian Thelemic Order working under the A.’.A.’. lines, after the suggestion of a fellow Lashtal member. At the time we were changing our memorandum of association, so I asked them if they would like to join us as partners. They replied that, the only support they can offer us at present, is of a natural institutional type, meaning relationships with councils/bodies/municipalities etc. We really appreciate it.
Regarding our contact with “kybernetes” and his initiative about the Abbey:
Kybernetes contacted me on 13th of October on the “Save the Abbey of Thelema – npo” Facebook page, and proposed us a collaboration with his group. His message was friendly and enthusiastic, but really obscure. Given that a Facebook page wouldn’t be the appropriate place to host our discussion, I asked him to contact us on our e-mail address (which can be accessed from all my partners) so that we could discuss in length about the details. He never did.
On January 7th he PM’ed me here in Lashtal, asking for my facebook and e-mail addresses (which he had already) to talk about the project. I replied that we have already talked on Facebook and I had given him our official e-mail address. However this time, having realized that he was not fluent in English and there was an obvious problem of communication, I asked him to contact Fr.Lucius with whom he could speak in his native tongue. He could always reach me personally on pm, I explained, but Fr.Lucius would help us a lot to understand each other better. Once again, he didn’t.
We waited for a few days and then Fr.Lucius contacted him, but ‘kybernetes’ didn’t reply this time either.
On January 22nd he posted on our Facebook wall an advertisement about a conference and Fr.Lucius saw it and wrote to him again explaining that we want to talk about the potential of some sort of cooperation. He also asked him if we can have a representative in the event. Kybernetes said yes and it would be nice to join forces etc.
During an online meeting we had last Wednesday, Fr.Lucius informed us that according to ‘kybernetes’ words, his group is a non-profit organization.
The whole set up didn’t look that organized to me; if this is really a registered non-profit, he wouldn’t call it simply “a group” and he would have realized that he needs to be clear and specific from the beginning. So we decided to ask their registration number first.
(Today I learned that when Fr.Lucius asked him about that, he simply answered that he doesn’t have the number with him.)
The next day, I read ‘kybernetes’ ‘ post about the conference on Lashtal and the following morning I realized that he had spammed every thread including the word Abbey in its title.
Assuming that ‘kybernetes’ (I still don’t know his real name) has really established a cnpo, I’m not sure at all that it is possible for two non-profit organizations of different nationalities to merge. But, even if it were, I don’t think it would be a wise thing to do at the present moment. Our current c.n.p.o. is created only to serve as an initial structure in order to open the way and start raising funds for the basic expenses of checking the status of the property and the building etc. Once we get things on track we’ll have to check other options; i.e. if we wish to get a loan by an Italian bank in order to lease the house, we’ll have to have our seat in Italy, because the bank wouldn’t trust a small foreign non-profit.
Besides, it this cnpo in Italy is a fact, we won’t have any reason to keep running our own -at least not in its present form. Our aim is to have the Abbey restored, no matter who will do it and I believe that my partners will agree with me if I say that we would happily support anyone willing to undertake this difficult enterprise, in any way we can.
So I guess what we need to know is if this group is really a civil non-profit organization.
Regards
Hecate
I am sure that nobody will be surprised to hear the following:
Today our accountant was supposed to go to the Internal Revenue Service and get our tax number. However, he came back with some rather upsetting news. They cross checked our data and they said that we need to correct a few things in the memorandum and our foreign partner will have to deal with certain formalities of which no one had told us about previously.
To do this, we’ll have to sign a new memorandum, therefore to go through the same process all over again for third time!!
In the end, we’ll also have to pay a fine because we didn’t start the organization’s operation within a month from the first registration in the Court. And, no, it doesn’t matter that when I asked a clerk a month ago she told me that the time starts counting from the modification date etc.
It’s a long way to Ithaca…
93,
Today our accountant was supposed to go to the Internal Revenue Service and get our tax number. However, he came back with some rather upsetting news. They cross checked our data and they said that we need to correct a few things in the memorandum and our foreign partner will have to deal with certain formalities of which no one had told us about previously.
To do this, we’ll have to sign a new memorandum, therefore to go through the same process all over again for third time!!
In the end, we’ll also have to pay a fine because we didn’t start the organization’s operation within a month from the first registration in the Court. And, no, it doesn’t matter that when I asked a clerk a month ago she told me that the time starts counting from the modification date etc.
It’s a long way to Ithaca…
Sorry to hear about the loops and barrels, Hecate. :/
93 93/93
yes, sorry to hear all this, Hecate.
93,
It is my solemn hope that, in the efforts to see the Abbey restored, you and your group will eventually be able to finish cutting all of the proverbial red tape, and then establish yourselves as the paramount organization for the promulgation of the restoration of the Abbey at Cefalu. When that occurs, your group will become the authority that must be approached in order to meet this end, and I trust that you and your group have the tools both mentally and physically in order to accomplish this feat.
It is the off-shoots and hagglers that make such red tape a necessity, and were it not so, we may quite possibly have people around the world making various claims such as "we are restoring the Abbey" only to collect donations to be used in fraudulent means. In this light, the red tape is a nice safeguard, even if the dogs of man do not quite understand how to properly implement the system.
I am sure that you and your group will overcome this, and in due time be well on your way to success in your endeavors. At that time, I will be willing to provide what support I can. My belief of what the Abbey stands for and what-not is irrelevant to my decision. I quite simply think it is a positive idea for Thelemites the world over to get together and agree on something, and to Do Something in unison.
93 93/93
I find it strange that they didn't tell you of these things when they received your paperwork before . It's as if they are purposefully slowing you down or maybe there is even an invisible enemy like a vindictive Christian in the organisation stone walling your paperwork 🙁 At any rate good luck and this is quite sad . I feel sorry for you having to do the same thing over an over . At the least it is a sign how stupid and inefficient bureaucracies are.
Why are you sure nobody will be suprised to hear this Hecate, is it due to your familiarity with a high degree of bureaucratic red tape?
Why are you sure nobody will be suprised to hear this Hecate, is it due to your familiarity with a high degree of bureaucratic red tape?
Perhaps it was rhetorical? Does it really matter?
Spam? A free initiative? An open group? I'm member of this forum since many years and i'ved speak already about our project to save the abbey in this and other place on the net and world: i know the fouder of this group and many users, i'm sorry if everyone think bad about me but the subject is the same of my post 😉 i've invite all to contrib at initiative: it's total no profit... i'm hope that you re-analize your think and what know about this situation
Oh dear, I wish there was some way to enhance our communication.
A non-profit project is one thing and a civil non-profit organization is another.
As I see it, to say that you run a non-profit project means that you are a person or a group of persons with a common aim but you are not a Legal Personality; therefore, you are not subject to certain legal obligations, like paying taxes etc.
If you ask me, this is great as long as all you want is to excite people’s interest about the Abbey. However, if you wish to raise funds, it’s not likely that anyone would trust their money to someone who is not going to be subjected to any sort of audit even if he is the most honest person in the world -not to mention that, trying to handle all that money without the proper vouchers, would be illegal.
But then again, perhaps you really have a registered organization and you simply used the wrong words? If this is the case, you can certainly provide some sort of proof, like the organization’s tax registration number. This would be a clear and sound way to convey your message.
Regards
Hecate
From what I understand the organization is registered, but I may be wrong. The way to approach the forums was probably not the subtlest or most elegant, but I surely wish Kybernetes' enterprise all the best. Once we manage to speak eye to eye about the whole question, I am sure it will be possible to understand whether a collaboration is possible or not. Notwithstanding, I applaud every attempt, as Hecate has done earlier on, to bring publicity to the Abbey and its possible restoration.
Maybe Kybernetes could give us a report on tomorrow's conference in Cefalu, especially on the re-edition of the audio CD which I wouldn't mind purchasing at some point.
Seems incredible that you have to go through the whole process again for the 3rd time.
Do you have the right representation?
Greetings
Frater Lucius, it mustn't be really difficult for Kybernetes to provide us his tax registration number. Personally, I can’t afford to spend any more energy on the subject until I see that. 🙂
To get back to the topic…
Michael Clarke, I have already booked an appointment with another accountant. However, as I was explaining to a friend yesterday, until now, most of the problems were really unexpected and irrelevant to the process itself and I don't hold anyone responsible for these delays.
I heard the last news I asked my inner guidance (once again) if I should call the whole thing off, but the answer was a big 'NO' and I was urged to continue the efforts.
I don't know where this is going to take me/us, but the truth is that every new path needs to be walked several times before the ground become solid and easy to find. Therefore we'll just keep walking, even if it is someone else who will reach the end.
Regards
Hecate
both on and off topic 🙂
what is the content on this cd kybenetes group is doing?
and
good luck hecate! *hugs*
you must be so tired 🙁
So the "Save the Abbey of Thelema"-paper-work is taking some extra long time.
In practical terms, or in 'mundane terms' if you like Hecate :wink:, the extraordinary current situation in Egypt means that it is now, or will now soon be, rather inexpensive to go to Egypt and Cairo, and other places of interest in that country.
As I understand your "Save the Abbey of Thelema"-initiative to involve keeping alive the work and legacy of AC, you might find it useful to visit the Antroposophical Sekem-project (sekem is an ancient Egyptian word for vitality) in the desert right outside of Cairo, and witness how that project is keeping alive the work and legacy of the founder of Antroposophy.
In light of that you Hecate called your 'Working magick in the Abbey of Thelema' - http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-4560-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-lighthouse.phtml - for the "Lighthouse Working", I find it to be an amusing coinsidens, or 'syncronisity' if you like Hecate :wink:, that the Sekem-project online is called: "The Sekem Vision: a lighthouse in the desert - for biodynamic agriculture, fair trade and peace through cultural exchange." Source: http://www.sekemscandinavia.com/sekem_vision.php
This trailer with English subtitles for the film Zwischen Himmel und Erde (Between heaven and earth) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiXu2w-MzKg - www.zwischenhimmelunderde.ch - includes Sekem.
I write this as food for thought for you and your inner guidance Hecate.
And no, me here writing about Antroposophy does not mean that I am an agent for Antroposophy. Just as me earlier writing about scientology on this forum does not mean that I am an agent for it. This despite someone on 26 Feb, 21:51 GMT this year in 'The Babble-On Box' seeking to tarnish me by associating me with scientology, by falsely under my nickname wellredwellbred, adding the word scientology. The person[-s] behind it, better be sure that this act of vandalism can be documenteted by admin to have occured while I was logged on to this forum, so that I can be accused of having added the word scientology myself to 'The Babble-On Box.'
The Dancer/Eurytmist Christoph Graf shown in the trailer, works at SEKEM in Egypt.
So let me get this straight wrwb, you are saying that while you were logged in, presumably someone sat down at your computer, after you had gotten up and yet did not log out, and typed "scientology" in the box? Or, are you saying someone has accessed your password and can log in as "you" and does so to defame your character? Either way, I liked it better when it was just taken as a strange joke on your part....
E-mail from moderator: "Other users can't "falsely write" on the Babble On Box: all posts are stamped with the date, time and the user's IP address. The line you mention was posted from an IP address that you have used previously on the site."
Well, or rather unwell, I did search the "Bibliographia Thelemica" for Scientology (written with a capital S) this weekend, to find the book Scientology Magie des 20.Jahrhunderts (Scientology Magic of the 20th century) by Friedrich-Wilhelm Haack, a book added to the "Bibliographia Thelemica" by our fellow member moyal.
The word scientology supposedly added by me in "The Babble-on-Box" was not written with a capital S, and I have no idea how it became added under my name, as I have never written, and do not ever intend to write, anything in 'The Bable on box'.
As I do not use drugs, do not party hard, do not hallucinate, and in this weekend was in no hurry, I guess some glitch made the search I made in the "Bibliographia Thelemica", turn up in 'The Bable on box'. The following message from 'anpi' on 28 Feb, 13:06 GMT this year about me to 'Noctifier', in 'The Bable on box': "I think he mistook the box for search field.", is close to the glitch I think occured in some strange way.
So it seems like no Lashtalian sought to tarnish me by associating me with scientology, by falsely under my nickname wellredwellbred, adding the word scientology to 'The Bable on box', and if this is the case ..., then ..., I apologize to all Lashtalians.
I would have liked it best if nothing at all had ever turned up under my name in 'The Bable on box', as I intend to write as clearly and seriously as possible, for both current readers, and for any possible reader[-s] in a distant future.
1 - Do not quote my private email correspondence with you in these Forums.
2 - What on earth does this nonsense have to do with the Abbey of Thelema?
Owner and Editor
LAShTAL
From 'The Babble-On Box': "Hecate: It would take one several days to remove all the trash. I'll try to stay a few more days in my next trip there in order to do that -assuming that it won't collapse until then. 02 Mar, 13:29 GMT"
If the abbey soon does collapse, will this have any consequence for the 'Save the Abbey of Thelema'-organization, Hecate?
I ask because the "Private Agreement on the Establishment of the Civil Non-Profit Organization under the name "Save the Abbey of Thelema"", according to the 'Article 3 Aim' and the 'Article 4 Scope', both in respect of its aim and its scope covers more then just saving the Abbey of Thelema.
I ask because the "Private Agreement on the Establishment of the Civil Non-Profit Organization under the name "Save the Abbey of Thelema"", according to the 'Article 3 Aim' and the 'Article 4 Scope', both in respect of its aim and its scope covers more then just saving the Abbey of Thelema.
Yes, you are correct in that the aim and scope is - according to Articles 3 and 4 - wider than just saving the Abbey. Neverthless, I should think it's pretty obvious that "if the abbey does soon collapse" then yes it will have some consequence for the organisation.
Is the Pope a Catholic?
Um, the whole Abbey is not likely to collapse soon. We have a large assortment of old adobe buildings everywhere here in New Mexico. The first thing to collapse is usually the roof. The Abbey's roof is probably due for collapse pretty soon - from what I've seen of the roof pictures (big hole). It is best to shore up the roof timbers (beams) first to prevent the rest of the roof from gravitating. If the whole roof collapses, then new beams will be required. The roof needs serious repair. Maybe even some supporting wall work?
My point is, New Mexicans (et al) rebuild roofs all the time. But if the whole roof comes down (or a major part of it), and then it rains hard - well, then walls start to crumble (or crumble faster than they already have), and pretty soon the whole thing needs to be rebuilt.
So, yeah, it seems to be a race between paperwork and catabolism.
Hello Anna (and those concerned),
93.
I would like to see this project succeed and prosper (IMO, it would be worthwhile seeing Cefalu with upkeep approaching that of Spinoza's house, Goethe-House, or Monticello). What is the current status of your foundation?
As mentioned by earlier posters, how might one donate online if a person does not ever plan on being a member of Facebook? I'm writing as someone who would be happy to regularly donate (albeit, with the stipulation just indicated).
What precisely is the long-term aim (supposing your non-profit is able to make the shift from [at this point] _possibly_ leasing to owning Cefalu)? Would it be operated as a museum? An abbey? A bed-and-breakfast or time-share (please no! ;P )?
Have you developed a formal, nonprofit business plan? What is your expected ROI (return on investment)? Have you considered a unit or share-structure such that the ownership is divided among actual (e.g., paying or adminstrative) stakeholders? Is a trust or a holding company a suitable vehicle based on the tax laws and traditional business practice in Sicily?
Is the current owner going to turn around and try to milk this as a cash cow?
I think (if there will be anything approaching success at preserving the extant site), it's probably useful to view this as a charity cause. Until there is some meaningful cash flow (and a "rainy-day" fund too), the project will probably profusely bleed money. All of that said... where can I donate (without having to travel to Europe)? 😀
93/93
HTS
Is the current owner going to turn around and try to milk this as a cash cow?
Sadly, that's the impression I get.
I don't think the Abbey would ever become a cash-cow. It's my opinion that there's not so much money to be made from Crowley as some people might think. In the particular case of the Abbey at Cefalu, it would cost a great deal of money to restore it, since only then would it have any potential for commercial expoitation, and it would likely take a while to recoup that initial investment.
There are plenty more attractive cash-cows, in my opinion.
Best wishes,
Michael.
Well, the owner could try and milk it as much as he can.
After all, what are the odds on a 1 storey Cefalù country house becoming a 'tourist' attraction?
Yet, despite the request for 1.5 million I read in the past, there are many things to consider.
What was once a dusty country road that Jane Wolfe walked along to get to the sandy shores of Cefalù, is now laden with shops, ugly buildings and the like.
The stadium at a 30 ft distance doesn't make the property more valuable and, frankly, the house itself is surrounded by other property.
Plus, with all due respect, we're talking about Aleister Crowley and not of some Italian historical hero of the Risorgimento.
All in all, I think Michael is right in saying that there are plenty more attractive cash cows.
Greetings HTS
93.
I would like to see this project succeed and prosper (IMO, it would be worthwhile seeing Cefalu with upkeep approaching that of Spinoza's house, Goethe-House, or Monticello). What is the current status of your foundation?
Thanks for your wishes. We have the organization registered in the Court (twice already) but haven’t concluded the process of the registration in the Internal Revenue Service yet. Now, due to some bureaucratic demands of which we were not told in the first place, we need to go through the whole process again.
Moreover, our Italian partner leaves the organization as he would have to get a Greek tax number and things might get more complicated in time. However, he kindly offered us his continuous support and I hope that we’ll co-operate again when we’ll move to Italy. Meanwhile, we’re happy that we’ll have him as a speaker in the event of May 27th in Athens.
Just yesterday I gave the papers to the lawyer, in order to take them to the Court again (I do hope this is the last time we need to do that).
We’ll have the whole process concluded when we’ll get a tax number.
Unfortunately, we can’t accept donations before we get a tax number from the Internal Revenue Office. As soon as we do that, we’ll open a bank account and people will be able to donate via Paypal or other means.
Michael Clarke has already created a website for the organization, but we haven’t added the content yet. We plan to add a Paypal button there too, for those who wish to donate. The donators will also have to fill a form declaring what they wish us to do with their money if we decide that our aims are not feasible (i.e. if they wish us to return the money to them or if they would agree to use the money to publish AC’s works).
The main idea is to turn it to a museum, especially the room with the murals. The room next to it could host an exhibition of photos etc and serve as a projection room where the visitors will watch videos relative to AC’s life and work.
I suppose that we could have a small shop at the entrance of the property and we could also host various cultural events. In any case, I will try to make sure that the visitors will be able to spend some time alone in the chamber of the nightmares.
B&B? Not exactly but, perhaps, we could use a room to host a couple of persons for a night or two.
Personally, I can even imagine offering some place to host a community counseling service for abused women and children or even for counseling to families of persons addicted to drugs…
As I have mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the current organization aims to work as an intermediate structure and help us raise funds in order to make the first basic steps, i.e. to hire a lawyer and an engineer (perhaps a financial advisor too) to check the legal status of the property, the leasing options in Italy and the status of the building itself. It won’t be possible to make any further plans unless we have a clear picture about those things and all the relevant Italian laws.
Nevertheless, I would welcome anyone who is an expert in the above fields and wishes to offer his/her services as a contribution to the project.
93/93
HTS
Well, obviously, although we see this as a charity cause, the owners consider it rather as a means of enrichment. I’ll have to agree with Michael Staley though, that this place will never become a cash-cow. I’ll be more than happy to see it restored and self sustaining.
I suppose that, if we lease the Abbey through a Bank (which means that the Bank will purchase the property and then lease it to us), the owners won’t have any further involvement.
I do hope that, once we’ll have the basic organizational structure established, more people will get involved in the project.
I can’t stress enough how important it is to have the support of the Thelemic basis and to achieve some solidarity among the Thelemites regarding this project. As I see it, this is as critical as the restoration of the Abbey itself, especially since every Thelemite can be considered as a part of the living temple of Thelema…
Regards
Hecate
You do mean by this " if they would agree to use the money to publish AC’s works" that you would be waiting until the copyrights expire to do this, right?
I don't think I can answer this question right now.
Regards
Hecate
Greetings
I’ve done some thinking about your question N.O.X. Actually, it’s not the first time that I had to deal with this issue, but I needed some extra time to look within.
To take things from the beginning:
As soon as we created our Facebook page, a visitor dropped the question: “what are you going to do with the money if you won’t succeed to buy the Abbey?” Right after that he suggested that we could donate the money to his Order to publish AC’s books. (I don’t have an access to the original posts, so I put it in my own words).
I found his question quite helpful, although it rang an alarming bell, as it was an indication that certain people will be waiting for us to fail in order to get that money and work on their own agenda. Obviously, I think it’s very important to have AC’s books published but still, what I saw in this attitude was the image of a vulture flying in circles over a thirsty baby in the desert. Therefore, my answer was something like “I would think about it, if the Order support our cause first” and later I explained that I never received any answer from them. The next day the person who asked the question left the page and the relevant posts vanished (apparently he erased them).
However, as I said, his question was helpful. I posted a question in this thread asking for more opinions, talked to some friends, and finally we included a relevant paragraph in our memorandum of association.
Since then, I’ve realized that a number of people feel disappointed from certain Orders while others support them wholeheartedly. Personally, I don’t have any reason to take any side, or, to put it in other words, I realize that each part has to deal with its own challenges and I respect deeply and sincerely everyone’s path.
Of course, in my turn, I have to work in order to achieve our organization’s goals and I won’t deny that I’d prefer people to respect our efforts and focus their energy and wishes on our success and not our dissolution - I believe this is fair enough.
On the other hand, if I want to be fair to the whole Thelemic community as well, I should focus on our common point of interest which is the life and work of Aleister Crowley. As a matter of fact, when I focus on that I can’t see any conflict of interest.
Therefore, if and when we’ll decide that our organization’s goals are not feasible, we will use the money to publish AC’s books in a way that will be appropriate at the time of the dissolution, according to article 13 ( http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-4627-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-120.phtml )
Now, if this will happen before the expiration of the copyrights, we’ll make a donation to the copyright holders to finance a publication, or we’ll try to co-operate with them in order to publish some translations.
But if we’ll have to make this decision after the expiration of the copyrights, most likely we’ll finance some publishing house to do it for us. (We’ll have to do some searching about this, but I don't consider it a priority right now.)
Regards
Hecate
Greetings
After several months of continuous efforts, I am happy to announce that the registration process of the non-profit organization “Save the Abbey of Thelema” has been concluded.
Our official data is:
General Registration Number in the Court of First Instance of Athens : 6459/2011
Tax ID No 997716431, Internal Revenue Service of Agios Dimitrios.
Regards
Anna Apostolidou
After several months of continuous efforts, I am happy to announce that the registration process of the non-profit organization “Save the Abbey of Thelema” has been concluded.
Our official data is:
General Registration Number in the Court of First Instance of Athens : 6459/2011
Tax ID No 997716431, Internal Revenue Service of Agios Dimitrios.
Regards
Anna Apostolidou
Nice work, Hecate!
Thanks the gods 🙂 That took far too long in terms of how many times you had to attempt it! I am glad this important first step is complete! Good work- I know it wasn't the most fulfilling or peaceful activity 🙂
Wonderful! When will donation be possible? Or is it already?
We'll need some more time for that Jedidah. 🙂
Regards
Hecate
In The Telegraph today; "The tumbledown Italian shed that will sell for £1.2 million"
Greetings
Thank you, Ariock!
Reading the article, I found it interesting that “The estate agents that are selling the property, which has been abandoned for years and is overrun with bushes and long grass, have suggested that it should be turned into a museum devoted to Crowley's extraordinary life.”
So it seems that the owners a) haven’t sold it yet and b) they've paid some attention to our last discussion (at least).
Meanwhile, we had our financial books sealed and validated by the Internal Revenue Service yesterday, so we can formally accept donations now. However, it will take us about a month to open a Bank account and be able to accept donations via Paypal etc.
Regards
Hecate
The date of the article is 05 Aug 2010, so it's old.
Ooops! Thanks Michael!
Sorry folks, I was looking at the date to the top left and didn't notice the one by the by-line.
Sorry folks, I was looking at the date to the top left and didn't notice the one by the by-line.
Don't worry, an easy mistake to make.
Greetings & Salutations,
thanks for all your work Hecate. When donations are possible I will be happy to throw some filthy lucre in the kitty. I was at the Abbey last week & can confirm it is still standing! Once I get my photos in order I'll let you know.
93,
William
Greetings
Many thanks to Arpokratis and Mystery magazine for the creation of this poster, for the event of 27 May "An evening with the Beast. ALEISTER CROWLEY: his Life and Work" :
Regards
Hecate
It's all Greek to me, Hecate, but it looks great. 😉
Actually, it was a good friend of mine (Nikolaos Koumartzis - http://koumartzisjournal.blogspot.com /"> http://koumartzisjournal.blogspot.com/ ) who created the poster 🙂
I’m participating with this short video: http://corti.iluoghidelcuore.it/video/4/labbazia-di-thelema-a-cefal
at the contest “I luoghi del cuore – 2011 ≈ The places of the heart” announced by the FAI (Fondo Ambiente Italiano ≈ Italian Environment Fund).
Please, vote for me!!!
Thank you, Alphard!
Regards
Hecate
Of course I would prefer to be informed about your intentions before you use the name of our organization in your video. Please remember to ask for our permission next time. 🙂
Dear Hecate,
I ask your pardon for my free-and-easy use of your Logo, but I would go on with our cause with all possible speed.
However, thank you very much for your kind authorization!
I’ll don’t forget to bring you up-to-date of my enterprise.