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Cedar
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27/11/2011 5:39 pm  

The "Prescence" of Crowley has been confirmed to me in Hastings
Following recent research into Aleister Crowleys life and death in Hastings I have come into contact with several individuals who have relayed interesting storys about the man. The most recent is that there is a certain , very precise location in Hastings where Crowleys "Energy" can still be felt today if you are of a sensitive disposition (not Netherwood).
The location confirmed to me by my source with a photo and exact co-ordinates has been confirmed as a place that Crowleys spirit was seen in the 1960s. The sighting was a very precise description of him.The confirmation being how he was dressed, not generally in the public knowledge.There is a place in Hastings, not far from George Street where a figure of The Dark Lord was located, this figure was also placed in an Occult shop in the 1970s and has been moved around Hastings over time to various locations by person or persons unknown. I heard this story many years ago from someone I knew in Hastings that operated in Occult circles and the latest news just confirms it.There was also a very powerful Occult Temple located in All Saints Street that may still be there? All Saints Street has long held a reputation for houses of Ill repute and there is a definite dark energy prescence that can be felt as I experienced myself many years ago. I have also learnt of an Occult battle Crowley had with the Owner of an Esoteric orgainsation in Hastings many years ago, the owner now into his 90s is stil very much alive and sprightly! I tracked him down but he refuses to discuss the "battle" or Crowley as it was very unpleasant at the time. If I receive further information I will pubish it in due course after verification of the facts.


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07/03/2012 1:26 am  

"The Dark Lord" ? Are you sure the individual didn't see Darth Vader rather than A.C. ?


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07/03/2012 5:43 am  

Greetings!

A "dark lord"?!!
My own perception of Aleister Crowley is that of a gentle being in light blue/white light.

Though, I remember that, in the beginning, his energy made me feel quite uneasy. It was funny really; I described it as the feeling of the chickens in the presence of a fox in the henhouse.
It took me some time to realize that this feeling was the result of a friction caused by my own fears and restrictive perceptions and that, in fact, I wasn't as openminded and openhearted as I thought I was. As soon as I let go of the thoughforms of fear, the energy proved to be really amazing.

Thats why I often tell people that AC's greatest gift in my life was that he tought me how to  r e a l l y  accept other people with no judgment.

Regards
Hecate


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07/03/2012 4:09 pm  
"Cedar" wrote:
All Saints Street has long held a reputation for houses of Ill repute
"Cedar" wrote:
I have also learnt of an Occult battle Crowley had with the Owner of an Esoteric orgainsation in Hastings

Perhaps these two stories split off from one - that Crowley had a punch up with the owner of a house of ill repute over an unpaid bill?!

:-*


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08/03/2012 3:30 pm  

The notion that Crowley's "presence" may be haunting Hastings in some way, is almost certainly misguided wishful thinking on someone's part.

Cedar makes reference to some supposed occult battle between AC and this owner or head of a magical organisation in Hastings.  I'm fairly sure I have something in my archives about this: a lurid and nonsensical account of the alleged manner of AC's death, casting AC in the role of the 'evil black magician' of course.  I think the gist of this was happily borrowed by George King of the Aetherius Society, whom as all enlightened esotericists know went on to have many battles on the lower astral plane with AC during the remarkable Operation Karmalight.

True occult history does not get better than this  ::) !!

Will get back to you all soon.

Satan's Advocaat.


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SatansAdvocaat
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09/03/2012 3:03 pm  

Well, I said I would, so here it is.

For various reasons, I attended an Aetherius Society lecture in February 1980, on the subject of "The Psychic War", a taped presentation by one of their main guys, Richard H.Lawrence, although the protagonist of the piece was inevitably George King D.D. In this an account was given of the death of Aleister Crowley, the basis of which was that he was killed by his own 'evil magic' - victim of the refelected lethal current of energy which he had himself directed at another.  In my subsequent letter to Mr.Lawrence - fuelled by youthful Thelemic indignation and not without its eqivalent measure of youthful sarcasm, I observed:  "I can only conclude that this account is an attempt at the sort of occult fiction admired by readers of the late Dennis Wheatley".
In his response, Mr.Lawrence stated:  "The information given by our lecturers, is based on knowledge of our Master, Sir george King, as a well-versed metaphysician and White Magician.  Statements made by Sir George king are based on his own personal knowledge and experience of Crowley."  Really, I thought, but that was more or less the end of it.

Some time in the late 1980s, an associate gave me a leaflet offering videos from "Trigon Communications Inc. Metaphysical video Library" with the address of: Society of Metaphysicians Ltd, Archer's Court, Stonestile Lane, Hastings TN35 4PG.  One Title caught my eye: 'Frontiers of the Mind - The New Metaphysics'.  J.J. Williamson:  "John J. Williamson is one of the greatest metaphysicians in the world today.  He is President-Founder [always a giveaway] of the Society of Metaphysicians.....
"In a series of extraordinary sessions which take place at his headquarters in Hastings, England, Williamson vividly describes his own spiritual experiences and reveals the startling psychic battle between forces of light and dark which culminated in the death of the notorious black magician Aleister Crowley, who called himself the Beast 666".
Sounds all too familiar, I thought, as did the address already known as that of an occult supplier calling itself MRG - presumably Metaphysical Research Group - who had somewhat surprisingly turned out a few minor AC bootlegs in the 1970s, including one which I posessed: "The Book of Changes, A new translation by the Master Therion" n.d. A cheap and useful pocketbook item.
Well, I wasn't going to waste £30 on the video, especially as I already knew what it was going to tell me. So there it is.

If this is the same old chap in his 90s that Cedar has encountered, and surely there can't be that many of them in strange old Hastings, he seems to be a bit more coy these days than when he produced his video.  Perhaps it received poor reviews ?

Although unseen, I reckon it probably deserves a  >:( 🙁 ::)  triple rating.

Love is the law, love under will.

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09/03/2012 3:27 pm  

Lol.  I wonder if the Aetherius Society does lectures in the North East?  It sounds like an excellent alternative venue to the Comedy Club.  I would take popcorn!  😀


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Cedar
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30/11/2012 4:10 pm  

I spent yesterday in Hastings following up some new information I had received. MRG was indeed one group I approached unfortunately the owner Mr Williamson passed away recently. My 90 year old "source" was not him, is still alive, just reluctant to talk! But im working on it. She has a large collection of Crowley Letters , photos and furniture left to her by her father who Crowley used to write to on his travels. The "alleged" sighting of Crowley was in the 1960s on the West Cliff and he was dressed in a certain style of dress. There was also a connection I am following up with an Occult shop in George St in the 1970s that had a "demonic" figure in the window that was/is used by a "group" in all saints street. The figure was regularly moved to the Old Pottery.


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03/12/2012 2:41 pm  

Well, in that case Cedar, your "source" does sound interesting.  Given the lady's age, you need to be genuinely sensitive and charming in your pursuit of information !

I'm sure there was something about that allegedly demonic figure, statue or whatever, in that Andrew Collin's book on Grail Questing, where he tramps around Kent and Sussex with his Missus and his psychic mate, invoking the "presence" of AC and getting all sorts of wonderful information about Stars of Babalon plotted on the landscape and ends up finding a rusty old key in a sacred well near Oxford.

Anyone remember the title ?


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SatansAdvocaat
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03/12/2012 3:11 pm  

"Twenty-First Century Grail"

Virgin Publishing, 2004.


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Cedar
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26/09/2014 3:17 pm  

Its been some time since I have been on here but just a quick update my "source" has chosen to remain anon despite my best efforts at tracing her down, she may even have expired! But, I have been researching furthers ACs associates in the Hastings area both Magical non Magical and I am 99.9% certain I have confirmed the lady in question is who she says she is.


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26/09/2014 3:27 pm  

Society of Metaphysicians Ltd, Archer's Court, Stonestile Lane, Hastings TN35 4PG

Wow


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Cedar
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26/09/2014 11:05 pm  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:
Society of Metaphysicians Ltd, Archer's Court, Stonestile Lane, Hastings TN35 4PG

Wow

Yes but John Williamson sady passed away and MRG no longer in business from Archers court


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26/09/2014 11:58 pm  

The Society of Metaphysicians still operate a website:

http://www.metaphysicians.org.uk

Shemesh Lodge O.T.O. is based in Hastings:

http://www.shemesh.oto-uk.org/index.htm


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Cedar
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27/09/2014 2:24 pm  
"Falcon" wrote:
The Society of Metaphysicians still operate a website:

http://www.metaphysicians.org.uk

Shemesh Lodge O.T.O. is based in Hastings:

http://www.shemesh.oto-uk.org/index.htm

Yes they do, but MRG as was ceased to be at John Williamsons demise I know as I made an offer to buy the business! They are only operating now as on online source of Williamsons writings on new Metaphysics , as the society of metaphysicians
I Know Shemesh is in Hastings your point being ? there are several Magical groups in Hastings currently of Wiccan, Hermetic, and Theurgic type


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27/09/2014 10:18 pm  

She has a large collection of Crowley Letters , photos and furniture

Shame that came to nothing.


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29/09/2014 5:45 pm  
"Cedar" wrote:
[...] My 90 year old "source" was not him, is still alive, just reluctant to talk! But im working on it. She has a large collection of Crowley Letters, photos and furniture left to her by her father who Crowley used to write to on his travels. [...]

If she hasn’t yet [expired], I imagine she pretty soon might do, going by the odds: so

- Godspeed!

Norma n Joy Conquest


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Cedar
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25/05/2016 4:48 pm  

Despite numerous attempts over the years including placing adverts in local magazines I have heard nothing, I must assume she has expired to the world beyond


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