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Aleister Crowley’s scarlet harem, part 1


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Aleister Crowley’s scarlet harem, part 1

“One can always replace a woman in a few days”

—Aleister Crowley; letter dated January 17, 1929 AD

“Practically all women ought to be chloroformed at 35…they’re all whores, anyhow”

—Aleister Crowley; diary entry, January 3 & 4, 1931 AD

Considering such views, and these are the tamer ones, it is no wonder that Aleister Crowley held a utilitarian view of women; they could serve as his “Scarlet Woman,” as his muse or simply as a, shall we say, receptacle for biological matter.

This is the first part of a series that seeks to chronicle Aleister Crowley’s female cohorts who played the various roles noted above. To this list could be appended a lengthy addendum of unknown, unnamed prostitutes, et al. could be added if such detailed information was available. Listing his male sexual partners would surely produce a list that eclipses this one since Crowley was a bisexual and employed homosexuality into his magickal workings.

http://www.examiner.com/article/aleister-crowley-s-scarlet-harem-part-1


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Aleister Crowley’s scarlet harem, part 1

[...] Considering such views, and these are the tamer ones, it is no wonder that Aleister Crowley held a utilitarian view of women; they could serve as his “Scarlet Woman,” as his muse or simply as a, shall we say, receptacle for biological matter. [...]

I have the feeling that this is bound to somehow – what's the expression now? – “stir the shit”! 

Landsakes alive!  What's part 2 going to be - that they should all be brought round to the back door along with the milk?! 😮

Norma N Joy Conquest


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“Practically all women ought to be chloroformed at 35…they’re all whores, anyhow”

—Aleister Crowley; diary entry, January 3 & 4, 1931 AD

by running those two quotes together - they've altered the meaning of both.

the first:

Sat 3. Woke early 4.30--Dawn-meditation more cheerful than usual -- I wonder why.
Anu arrived with the Steins. They have very kindly offered to take care of the poor kid for a fortnight; it may be that this will get rid of the worst of the trouble.
  Rang up Anna Mabre--date.
  Practically all women ought to be chloroformed at 35.

the second:

Sun 4.  .1%.
Painted.  Played chess.  Met Anna--can't stick her.  Played chess. Trials of a travelled philosopher: No 1. In Berlin all the whores look like 'respectable women'; in New York all the 'respectable women' look like whores. Reflection: they're all whores, anyhow.


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Jamie, I think that they are all the way up to part 10 already.

Thanks for clarifying those full quotes William.


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jamie gamey barter-

i remember reading/hearing that backdoor milk thing regarding women once.  can you help a brotha out with where it comes from again?


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Sorry christi-wisti-brany, I was reading that only the other fortnight but my mind has gone a temporary blank re the source.  I think it may have been referred to in the Hag as well although I did read it somewhere else.  If it comes back to me I’ll let you know as soon as, if someone else hasn’t in the meantime! 😀

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Page 113 of the Symonds/Grant 'Hag - end of chapter 12. No sign of the unexpurgated version yet...


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As mentioned Christi-wissy, I recall reading it when I was also quoting from the Jackson Burke article “The Beast with Two Backs” in the “Thelemic monk seeks vile and most horrible creature for concubine?” thread which was on the Magick board a couple of weeks ago – the piece came from the newspaper article which immediately preceeded that one in Richard T. Cole’s sterling compendium “The Un-Magical Record of the Great Beast 666”, page 142, as well as in the Hag reference joe93 also refers to:

Soon the young man began to exhibit an amazing sexual drive.  “Abstinence even for forty-eight hours was impossible,” he wrote.  There were no prostitutes in Cambridge and Crowley lamented that he had “to waste uncounted priceless hours to chasing what ought to have been brought to the back door every evening with the milk.”  He despised women, and likened his need for them to a drug addict’s need for morphine.  He believed they should be kept as slaves, locked up in harems for the use of men, or better yet, simply made public property.

(TRUE – The Men’s magazine (Vol. XX No.6), October 1956, p.110)[/align:2fqq51on]

Needless to say this is a gross exaggeration if not downright falsification, as can be seen from many other of his different writings and comments.  And he most firmly believed that in them, or at least the Scarlet Woman and not the man or the Beast, “is all power given”.

Interesting also that they had evening deliveries of milk instead of (as well as?) early morning ones at that time.  Nowadays, any deliveries are a rarity.  Like the postal service (which was once several times a day), things have gone downhill a lot since those days. 

N Joy


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"joe93" wrote:
Page 113 of the Symonds/Grant 'Hag - end of chapter 12. No sign of the unexpurgated version yet...

I hear they’re (the ©.O.T.O.) trying to bring it out in time for the centenary (no, not of Crowley’s death, silly – that would be an awful long long time!  I mean the centenary of the appearance of the first edition in 1929.  By which time a lot of us may be dead or gaga of course, but what the hell.)

By the way, the author of the passage quoted in Reply #7 was Daniel P. Maddix, who as well as being a co-founder of The Munchkin Convention of the International Wizard Of Oz Club was the author of an early 1959 pulp bio of A.C. entitled The Beast: The Scandalous Life of Aleister Crowley, long out of print.  (Some might say deservedly!)

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Mannix


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Please Exvuse the typ% !

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2029?! Oh no! That sort of date is suitable for sci-fi, not for something that's described as "in print" and "in perpetration" in those two Wordsworth collections! I understand there's some kind of cross referencing (with the diaries?) to be done, or being redone. The last thing I read from OTO HQ was of a possibility of each 'Hag vol coming out separately, concurrently with the diaries. The wiki page for the 'Hag sez - "The Ordo Templi Orientis will issue a new unabridged version of "Confessions" which will contain a great many previously unseen photographs and some new research. It will be issued in separate volumes set out and laid out to match the 1929 Mandrake press first edition typographically, and will use a binding and paper of similar quality. The new edition will incorporate much of the research done on Crowley in recent years by such scholars as Richard Spence, Richard Kaczynski and Tobias Churton for their Crowley biographies."
Still, if you're right about the date, Jamie, my pension will pay for it.
PS I always found it amusing that AC was keen to see Dorothy's adventures on the big screen when it was shown in Hastings.


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Hang on - "in press" according to The Drug, not "in print". Later corrected to "in perpetration" in the Simon Iff collection. If it was in print and not due until 2029 then I can only presume they're using an original Gutenberg printing press....


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"joe93" wrote:
Hang on - "in press" according to The Drug, not "in print". Later corrected to "in perpetration" in the Simon Iff collection.

How about “in perpetuity”?  As in, waiting for …

"joe93" wrote:
If it was in print and not due until 2029 then I can only presume they're using an original Gutenberg printing press....

*Snort!* Couldn't take much longer if they were!

The Equinox Volume III Number 2, prepared by Crowley in draft form and containing the concluding part of John St. John and Liber ‘Jesus’ sub figura 888 (aka "The Gospel According to St George Bernard Shaw"), was announced as “in galley proofs” nigh on thirty years ago & therefore about as “ready to go” as they come, and that hasn’t seen the light of day yet, either.  Let alone the Collected Diaries, the unexpurgated Magick Without Tears, “Et cetera, et cetera”.

Still, so long as they’re preoccupied with legal matters and court concerns, who really cares about making sure the Prophet of Thelema’s works are in print?  Certainly not what was meant to be the "prime engine for the promulgation of the 93 Current”, that’s for sure.  ":("

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I forgot about those titles as well. I've written "in perpetration" rather than "in preparation" twice which must be a conspiratorial Freudian slip! I think we'll stick with "in perpetuity" as the most reasonable, especially when looking at the protracted delay in the Equinox 3/2. I've still got me Crowley on Christ to read.


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thank you for finding that source, ladies and germs. 
'I open my front door, hear my back door slam You must have one of them new fangled back door man'


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