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Do kids really need to learn ‘table manners’?


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Do kids really need to learn ‘table manners’?

Table manners and Uncle Al!

In the circumstances, you’d think that with my own child, I might have taken the Aleister Crowley view of manners – “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”. I’d have been in good company if I had: a recent survey found that a majority of parents felt that trying to enforce traditional table manners made meal times into a battleground.

http://www.dailylife.com.au/life-and-love/parenting-and-families/do-kids-really-need-to-learn-table-manners-20140211-32ez6.html


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jamie barter
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Hi Paul,

Possibly I may be mistaken in some way, but doesn’t this "clipping" duplicate the earlier one featured on January 30th under the heading: “A tip on French table manners: mind your peas and tu’s?”

I'm sure A.C.'s own table manners would have been perfectly acceptable if not impeccable and would in no way have disgraced him.  (Assuming, of course, that he did not choose to defecate upon his host's carpet following the meal.)

Doing a double take whilst experiencing déjà vu, mon ami
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"jamie barter" wrote:
Assuming, of course, that he did not choose to defecate upon his host's carpet following the meal.

This is certainly a tale told by Symonds but are there any other, more reliable, sources?

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"lashtal" wrote:
"jamie barter" wrote:
Assuming, of course, that he did not choose to defecate upon his host's carpet following the meal.

This is certainly a tale told by Symonds but are there any other, more reliable, sources?

Again with this one, I remember reading it from somewhere else apart from/ in addition to Symonds, but it could possibly have been some other writer who was recycling him but without accessing the source directly. 

Also, if apocryphal whilst perhaps not being directly connected with A.C. himself, I believe it was nonetheless the practice of some divine leader to defecate (rather like farting or belching can be regarded as a sign of appreciation in some societies) in order to denote their approval of something rather than the opposite.  (It can’t have been the Dalai Lama, can it?)  Unfortunately though my memory on exact details here is also sketchy – hopefully someone else can ‘fill in’ the gaps!

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Just some random thoughts. In David Bowie's song Breaking Glass, he sings,
Don't look
At the carpet
I drew something awful on it
See

Well, I always thought he said "I threw", and this reminded me of the story refereed to above. I thought he was singing about Crowley doing something awful on the carpet.
Just think that is sort of funny considering what he was actually talking about is he drew the Tree of Life on the carpet as seen on the back cover of Station to Station.
Any ways, I'm a big fan of Crowley and Bowie.


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"lashtal" wrote:
"jamie barter" wrote:
Assuming, of course, that he did not choose to defecate upon his host's carpet following the meal.

This is certainly a tale told by Symonds but are there any other, more reliable, sources?

I don't have my copy anymore as I gave it away "back in the day" (along with a couple of other esoteric books) to "someone I used to know" who was into Wicca, but this incident might be mentioned (recycled) in The Magical World of Aleister Crowley by Francis King.  Someone here with a copy could confirm if this is correct, if they are so inclined.  I may be mistaken, but I too have read about this somewhere.


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I have a copy but don't remember when, where & with whom exactly this 'surprise' was reputed to be 'produced'. Was it at Frau Tränker's during the Weida Conference? If so, there is no mention of it 'Magickal World'. A quick googling of the matter brought no clarity.  I suggest it would be worthy of us to 'get to the bottom' of this!


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James
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I have a memory of it in Martin Booth's biog. A Magickal Life

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