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Libertarian Folly: Why Everybody is a Social-issues Voter

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Libertarian Folly: Why Everybody is a Social-issues Voter

Americian Thinker wears blinkers....

Of course, I’m sure that many libertarians have no problem with legalized bestiality; hey, my goat, my choice, right? And there may even be a rare few who would shrug off pedophilia, saying that, well, if a child agrees, who am I to get in the way of a consensual relationship? But these issues, as revolting and emotionally charged as they are, are just examples. There are a multitude of others, and this becomes clear if we delve a bit more deeply.

After all, what are “social issues”? What are we actually talking about? We’re speaking of moral issues, which, again, thoroughly modern millie would say should be kept out of politics. But this is impossible. For the truth is that every just law is an imposition of morality or a corollary thereof -- every one.

Eyes may be rolling again, but let’s analyze it logically. By definition a law is a removal of a freedom, stating that there is something we must or must not do. Now, stripping freedom away is no small matter. Why would we do it? Unless we’re sociopathic and like Aleister Crowley believe “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” and are willing to impose our will simply because it feels right, there could be only one reason: we see the need to enforce an element of a conception of right and wrong. We prohibit an act because we believe it’s wrong or mandate something because we believe it’s a moral imperative. This is indisputable. After all, would you forcibly prevent someone from doing something that wasn’t wrong? Would you force someone to do something that wasn’t a moral imperative? That would be truly outrageous -- genuine tyranny.

William Thirteen
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"american thinker" - an oxymoron?

anyway, shouldn't there be commas around the words "like Aleister Crowley" ?

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For the truth is that every just law is an imposition of morality or a corollary thereof -- every one.

It's a great error, I think, to take law as the imposition of, or an extension of, morality.  Law and morality are connected, but not in that way. 

Law is not an imposition, or extension of morality.  Law is a social mechanism for maintaining order.  Usually by sanction or threat of sanction. 

If it is a liberal or libertarian law, then it takes seriously the principle that it, too, must be subject to moral rules, like all human action, and that it must itself do nothing immoral.  i.e. it must not maintain order (by sanction or threat of sanction) in an immoral way, its agents must not behave immorally, it must be consistent with morality.

But in doing so, it is not a handmaiden of morality, it's still a mechanism for maintaining social order, it just happens to be one that's also moral.