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lashtal
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05/06/2009 2:14 am  

In a lengthy and entertaining interview with Marilyn Manson, The Times newspaper today includes the following from the rock star in connection with the inspirations behind his latest -- and really rather good -- album, The High End Of Low:

“This has always been the most cynical and calculating country,” he says, “and the country I most want to impress. All my heroes are British, whether it’s Aleister Crowley or Bowie. All the best art has come from your godforsaken island. And it makes me mad.

-- http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6432653.ece

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SatansAdvocaat
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05/06/2009 2:10 pm  

I've never paid much attention to Marilyn Manson, but after reading that quotation I'm warming to the guy already !

Thanks Paul, I will check this out.
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05/06/2009 6:31 pm  
"lashtal" wrote:
In a lengthy and entertaining interview with Marilyn Manson, The Times newspaper today includes the following from the rock star in connection with the inspirations behind his latest -- and really rather good -- album, The High End Of Low:

“This has always been the most cynical and calculating country,” he says, “and the country I most want to impress. All my heroes are British, whether it’s Aleister Crowley or Bowie. All the best art has come from your godforsaken island. And it makes me mad.

-- http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6432653.ece

93,

I think it is pretty good too but I will always think Portrait of an American Family is best, followed by Holy Wood & Mechanical Animals. Manson has a few references to A.C. & Thelema...

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michaelclarke18
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05/06/2009 9:21 pm  

All the best art has come from your godforsaken island

Hmm not sure about that. Has he not heard of Picasso, Matisse, Van Goch, Vermeer............I won't go on...


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05/06/2009 10:24 pm  

It's am opinion Clarke, not a statement of fact.

As far as Manson & his work, I suggest listening/relistening the ANtichrist Superstar and think about the meta-theme going on. On close examination it is telling the cycle of initiation from one of the people lost in the masses to elevation & Apotheosis as the God-man. SOngs like the Beautiful People express this being lost in the masses, trying to find the truth but not finding it in what is offered. Then the meta-theme goes into the birth of the Neophyte with Little Horn, where after suffering through the Qlippotic world he makes his first steps into the waking world. MIster Superstar is the invocation of the HGA, a droning call to another self that represents idealization etc. Christ Consciousness with Angel with the Scabbed WIngs representing the angel coming to the invoker in the meta-theme, bringing the divine light to him & resulting in CHrist/Buddhahood in 1996 & Antichrist Superstar & his continued evolution where he begins to see himself in everything & everything in him, eventually attaining cosmic consciousness, the Man that You fear. Relisten to it, watch the meta-theme evolve. Then read the Three Schools of Magick && listen to Mechanical Animals & Holy Wood in those contexts. They aren't as tight around the theme or linear as Antichrist, but the themes are still there...


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06/06/2009 11:10 pm  

There's a perceptive review of the album in Q magazine this month.

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michaelclarke18
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07/06/2009 12:40 am  

It's am opinion Clarke, not a statement of fact.

It's the opinion that I am questioning.


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07/06/2009 1:19 am  

I think Manson is allowed to be the judge of his own tastes...


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07/06/2009 1:43 am  

Yeah well, shame about the music innit....


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michaelclarke18
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07/06/2009 1:37 pm  

I am not to be taken as an authority, if you assume such, that is you, not me

I agree that you are not to be taken as an authority....


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07/06/2009 7:37 pm  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:

I am not to be taken as an authority, if you assume such, that is you, not me

I agree that you are not to be taken as an authority....

LOL. Glad that you agree. 😆


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08/06/2009 8:08 pm  

LOL. Glad that you agree.

Always happy to oblige, when I think someone right.

But Manson's original statement is presented as a fact

All the best art has come from your godforsaken island

Now, if Manson had said ''in my opinion...'' but he didn't.


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08/06/2009 10:08 pm  

I figured it was taken for granted myself. People shouldn't have to categorize everything they say.


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 Anonymous
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08/06/2009 11:28 pm  

He was off his tits on absinthe. People say some odd things when drunk. I have noticed this........


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09/06/2009 10:20 am  
"BlueKephra" wrote:
He was off his tits on absinthe. People say some odd things when drunk. I have noticed this........

Absinthe containing 66.6% alcohol. The interviewer from Q magazine described the flavor as "battery acid".


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09/06/2009 2:34 pm  

And you trust the reviewer?

It's rated quite highly among the on-line communities of Absinthe drinkers whose opinions I've read. People whose opinions I've trusted in the past enough to spend $60-100 on an occasional bottle of the green fairy. Manson's quite the Absinthe affecianado himself, and the producer of the liquor in question worked for some time on the specific recipie. No, I haven't tried it yet, (I already know what I like), but I'll probably give it day in court on my next order.

Manson has quite suprised me, actually. He used to be quite a snot. But he's grown up rather a lot since he first rose to fame, and actually has come to possess some intelligent opinions in several interviews I've read of his. Pity about his rather derivative music though, as you say, Bluekephra.


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10/06/2009 4:28 pm  

Showbiz Satanism


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