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25/02/2012 1:08 am  

Another mention of Crowley in The Guardian today in an article by J Hoberman: Hugo and the Magic of Film Trickery:

Many film-makers, including Orson Welles and the avant-gardists Maya Deren, Harry Smith, Stan Brakhage, and Kenneth Anger, identified their practice with magic – albeit in varying ways. Welles had extensive experience as a stage magician and made his last feature, the faux documentary F is For Fake precisely about cinematic sleight of hand; Deren was a serious student of Haitian vodoo; Smith considered his cut and paste animations a form of alchemy; Brakhage referred to "trick" as the medium's fundamental rule; and Anger was a disciple of Aleister Crowley, who considered making a film akin to casting a spell. (Walt Disney would have agreed.)

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25/02/2012 1:49 am  

Hoberman missed one: Harry Smith, filmmaker, artist, and compiler of the Anthology of American Folk Music, was also a Thelemite.
One of my bands played a show once with his old multiprojector slide/film show projected on us (years after his death), replete with much alchemical imagery.


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25/02/2012 1:54 am  
"ignant666" wrote:
Hoberman missed one: Harry Smith, filmmaker, artist, and compiler of the Anthology of American Folk Music, was also a Thelemite.

He doesn't exclude Harry Smith - the name is in the quote above.

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25/02/2012 2:03 am  

Well, I know, what I meant was that he missed another "disciple of Aleister Crowley" among those filmmakers he listed, a fact I thought worthy of mention here.


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25/02/2012 2:05 am  

Um, okay.

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25/02/2012 3:55 am  
"lashtal" wrote:
Another mention of Crowley in The Guardian today in an article by J Hoberman: Hugo and the Magic of Film Trickery:

Many film-makers, including [...] Harry Smith, [...] Smith considered his cut and paste animations a form of alchemy;

"ignant666" wrote:
Well, I know, what I meant was that he missed another "disciple of Aleister Crowley" among those filmmakers he listed, a fact I thought worthy of mention here.

Who did he miss?


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25/02/2012 4:39 am  

The (very small) point I was making, which I obviously phrased poorly, was that Hoberman mentioned four avant-garde filmmakers who "identified their practice with magic": Maya Deren, Harry Smith, Stan Brakhage, and Kenneth Anger.
He mentions that Kenneth Anger was a "disciple of Aleister Crowley", but does not mention that the same could be said of Smith.
I wasn't saying that he "missed"/failed to mention Smith, but rather that, having mentioned him, he "missed"/failed to mention that he, like Anger, was a Thelemite.


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25/02/2012 5:00 am  
"ignant666" wrote:
The (very small) point I was making, which I obviously phrased poorly, was that Hoberman mentioned four avant-garde filmmakers who "identified their practice with magic": Maya Deren, Harry Smith, Stan Brakhage, and Kenneth Anger.
He mentions that Kenneth Anger was a "disciple of Aleister Crowley", but does not mention that the same could be said of Smith.
I wasn't saying that he "missed"/failed to mention Smith, but rather that, having mentioned him, he "missed"/failed to mention that he, like Anger, was a Thelemite.

Thanks for the clarification. That's an important point you have made.


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