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I chanced across this list of music groups influenced by Crowley on the web dating from the 1990s.

Anyone care to start the ball rolling to update it?

- Ancient Illuminated Seers Of Bavaria
- Anti Group (On the track BIG SEX, the line "Every man and every woman is star" is repeated several times)
- Apparition
- Arild (Features samling of Regardie and Crowley)
- Bate & Bourne
- Mike Batt
- Beast Band
- The Beatles (Had Crowley on the SGT.PEPPER cover)
- Bobby Beausoleil & The Freedom Fighters (soundtrack to Lucifer Rising)
- Camper Van Beethoven
- CAN
- Bitchcraft
- Black Sabbath (Pioneers of heavy metal, inverted crosses et.al see also Ozzy Osbourne)
- Black Sun Ensemble
- Black Widow
- Blood & Roses
- David Bowie (Hunky Dory that mentions Crowley on Quicksand)
- William Burroughs
- Canned Heat (Living the Blues Mention Crowley)
- Cassandra Complex (Rodney Orpheus is a Thelemite)
- Celtic Frost
- Chakra
- Chris & Cosey
- Coil + Zos Kia
- Jaz Coleman (songs from the victorious city see also Killing Joke)
- Cosmic Sounds + Lucifer Project
- Coum Organisation
- Coven (Anton LaVey)
- Robert Crumb
- Current93
- Cypher
- Daisy Chain
- Danzig II
- Death in June
- Eld/Omala
- Enid
- Eyes of Blue
- Fetching Bones
- Fields of the Nephilim
- Flowers of Evil
- Robert Fripp
- Fugs (Ed Sanders)
- Full moon in March (Norway)
- Ian Gillan (Deep Purple)
- Glod (Detroit)
- Golden Horde
- Gong (with Steve Hillage)
- Hafler Trio
- Daryl Hall (A Playboy interview some time ago where he went on and on about Uncle Al and his (Daryl's) practice of magick. His solo album (with Robert Fripp and Peter Gabriel) was "Sacred Songs"...)
- Haze
- Hellbastards
- Heretix
- Heru-Ra-Ha
- Paul Horn
- Hunting Lodge
- In a Spleen (Slovenia)
- Incubus Sucubus
- INRI (Canada)
- Japetus
- The Jet Black Berries
- The Job
- Karowski + Phauss
- Kathan Spies
- Killing Joke (Several references see also Jaz Coleman)
- King Crimson (Moonchild)
- Korpses Katatonik
- Timothy Leary (with Ash Ra Temple)
- Led Zepplin
(Jimmy Page bought Boleskine, "restored" it, worked his own brand of musical magick there along with the rest of the boys, complete with robes and ritual tools, etc.)
- Loretta's Doll
- Lord Of The New Church
- Lubricated Goat
- Magma (Christian Vander)
- Marilyn Manson (Cleams to have been influenced by Anton LaVey but who believes him?)
- Ray Manzarek (The Golden Scarab)
- Material + W.Burroughs
- Ministry (Seems to have used samples of A.C. chanting in Enochian on a song called 'Golden Dawn' on the album "The Land of Rape and Honey" And How To succeed and how to suck eggs taken from the books of lies)
- The Mission
- Mister Vile Thumb
- Morbid Angel
- Mozart W.A. (Mason + Jimmy Page)
- Nature and Organization
- Necromicon (Germany)
- Bill Nelson
- New Order (Cover with photo of Al.Crowley and other with 93)
- Nurse With Wound
- Obscurity (Slovenia)
- The Office
- The Only Ones
- Orchestra Dire Nessecita (Germany)
- Odro Catharis Templi (Germany)
- OTO (France)
- Ozzy Osbourne (Mr.Crowley A main cause of people mispronouncing the
name)
- Penal Colony (Freemasons of Enochian Magick)
- A Place to Pray (Norway)
- Psychic Tv
- Blaine Reininger (Tuxedomoon)
- Rikki and the Last Days of Earth (UK)
- Rolling Stones (Because of their connection with Kenneth Anger and songs like Child of the Moon)
- Raol Seixas (with lyrics by Marcello Ramos Motta)
- Denis Rose (see also Jimmy Page)
- Royal Family and the Poor
- Todd Rundgren
- Sacrophagus (Finland)
- The Sect
- Section25
- 700 toylets (Norway)
- Judee Sill
- Sisters Of Mercy
- Sodom
- Sol Invictus
- Stigma Diaboli
- The Stranglers (Concept Album on Conspiracies)
- Subotnick
- SunGoat (Norway)
- Taste (Canada)
- Teater93 (Yugoslavia)
- Thelema (Italy)
- Therion (Poland)
- Theyr (Iceland)
- Third Ear Band
- Throbbing Gristle
- Tool
- Marta Tilson (A certain Ratio + Occult Chemistry)
- Tom Tom Club
- Toy Muzik
- TV Personalities (on "Who Killed Aleister Crowley?")
- 23Skidoo (UK)
- Ultramarine
- Vagina Dentata Organ
- Venom (Abaddon seems to be interested)
- Warsaw
- Ruth White
- White Stains (Sweden)
- Zero Kama (Swiss)

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You might like to check this Catalogue done by O.T.O. Norway:

http://www.oto.no/mmm/index.htm l"> http://www.oto.no/mmm/index.html


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There's the question of what qualifies. I have quite a few items with pics of A.C. or atus from the Thoth deck on them but with no discernable, overt, Thelemic content in the musick. I also have an extremely-rare seven-inch produced by an old Brisbane band which actually called itself "Aleister Crowley" - with still no discernable Thelemic content. More contempory is a local lot who have broken out of the Death Metal fixation on 666 by calling themselves 418 - which makes for a change. They have one tune by the name of "Epoch" which has some New Aeon musings in it. A sample of the tune can be found here:

http://www.418.com.au/downloads.html

But if one allows musick with a Thelemic theme, even if the provenance is not established, the classic Australian track has to be "Because I Love You", by the Masters Apprentices, with this wonderful chorus:

ooooo!!! do what you wanna do, be what you wanna be yeah
ooooo!!! do what you wanna do, be what you wanna be yeah
ooooo!!! do what you wanna do, be what you wanna be yeah
ooooo!!! do what you wanna do, be what you wanna be yeah

You probably know it. It was a bit of a hit. That was recorded at Abbey Road in 1971 while Lennon was recording "Working Class Hero" there and I've long suspected that it wasn't just the musical influences that turned the Aussie boys' heads when they arrived in London. One of the composers, Jim Keays, went on to produce a concept album back in Australia in 1974 called "The Boy from the Stars" with a few esoteric references - but I haven't heard of any of the Apprentices admitting to any Crowley influence. They reformed and did a new version of "Because I Love You" in 1988 that was a hit again, too.

I know of quite a few others of the unovert variety, notably one by another well-known Australian, Paul Kelly: "Love Is The Law". It was rerecorded as a CD single about two years ago.

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John Zorn - IAO music in sacred light. It's on his Tzadik label and has a picture of A.C. on the cover. A (somewhat off the wall) review of it is here:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/z/zorn_john/iao.shtml

Zorn also has a release called Crowley Quartet
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Magick:1922073405:page=tracks

Regarding the Material - William Burroughs album listed above ( it's called Seven Souls), I was one of the engineers on the project and can verify that it contains nothing directly connected to Crowley or Thelema. The subject matter of the Burroughs tracks is from his book The Western Lands which deals with Egyptian mythology and The Book of the Dead. I do highly recommend this music. Besides being musically excellent it's very educational and is certainly related to an often overlooked aspect of the Thelemic viewpoint - the survival and conquering of death.

Bill Laswell who created and produced Seven Souls has ingested large doses of Crowley's books and has printed Do What Thou Wilt ... on the cover of one of his other releases - I don't recall which one.

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How about Grahame Bond? Not too subtle but entirely genuine. I met him once in the Equinox bookshop. He said "Where's the good stuff?"
I said "Over there".


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"OKontrair" wrote:
How about Grahame Bond? Not too subtle but entirely genuine. I met him once in the Equinox bookshop. He said "Where's the good stuff?"
I said "Over there".

😉

My brother, John, who shares several of my interests very kindly bought me the compilation CD of Holy Magick and We Put Our Magick On You. I'd heard of the albums before, of course, but wasn't familiar with their content. Imagine my surprise when he started by intoning "LAShTAL"!

By the way, I fully endorse the recommendation of John Zorn's material by Zardoz above. Remarkable stuff - very accomplished...

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Dear Zardoz,
The info you provided is extremely interesting!
I'd love to hear more facts about Bill Laswell and this album that has "Do What Thou Wilt ..." on the cover.
Thank you!


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"Kether" wrote:
You might like to check this Catalogue done by O.T.O. Norway:

http://www.oto.no/mmm/index.htm l"> http://www.oto.no/mmm/index.html

I'm surprised that Arild doesn't have this one listed:

http://www.eutopia.no/Music.html

Called "Bone Woman, Pagan songs from the circle", it's an interesting Norwegian effort, refreshingly lacking in Death Metal (or even rock). It has versions of The Pentagram and Hymn To Pan (with samples of both online).

They err on the side of caution in listing "OTO" as the copyright holders. They're both well out of the reach even of the U.S. laws - unless they've changed it to a century's worth recently, without telling me? (And thank the Lord for Sonny "Pro" Bono protecting artists' rights!!)

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Kether,

I saw "Do what thou wilt... " in Bill's handwriting i believe, on a cd some years back but don't recall which one it was.

I will call him in the next few days, ask him about that and about any other Thelemic material there may be in his music. His output is so prolific it's hard to keep up with.

Zardoz


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when I first heard parts of the Material/Burroughs music, (on a soundtrack) it was so authentic and errie sounding that I thought it was Burroughs reading his material in the 40's or 50's. I purchased the cd and it stands, to me, as Burroughs best recorded work. The music and the voice are perfectly comlimented and each could stand on it's own. Most of Burrough work with other musicians seem like the music is pandering to him when compared to this strange and unique cd.


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"lashtal" wrote:
I chanced across this list of music groups influenced by Crowley on the web dating from the 1990s.

Anyone care to start the ball rolling to update it?

Well, the web-pages haven't been updated for ages, but we're working on it. Thanks for posting the liust from the Magick Musick Museum without acknowledgement! A more or less updated version of what's in he collection can be had from ata@uib.no


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"Excoriator" wrote:
There's the question of what qualifies. I have quite a

I know of quite a few others of the unovert variety, notably one by another well-known Australian, Paul Kelly: "Love Is The Law". It was rerecorded as a CD single about two years ago.

CSM

That's always the question, isn't it, "what qualifies"? When we're through updating the web-pages, quite a few of the listed items will be taken out, probably.

And Paul Kelly has been brought to my attention in a private e-mail. I haven't been able to afford it yet, though.


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"zardoz" wrote:
John Zorn - IAO music in sacred light. It's on his Tzadik label and has a picture of A.C. on the cover. A (somewhat off the wall) review of it is here:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/z/zorn_john/iao.shtml

Zorn also has a release called Crowley Quartet
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Magick:1922073405:page=tracks

Regarding the Material - William Burroughs album listed above ( it's called Seven Souls), I was one of the engineers on the project and can verify that it contains nothing directly connected to Crowley or Thelema. The subject matter of the Burroughs tracks is from his book The Western Lands which deals with Egyptian mythology and The Book of the Dead. I do highly recommend this music. Besides being musically excellent it's very educational and is certainly related to an often overlooked aspect of the Thelemic viewpoint - the survival and conquering of death.

Bill Laswell who created and produced Seven Souls has ingested large doses of Crowley's books and has printed Do What Thou Wilt ... on the cover of one of his other releases - I don't recall which one.

zardoz

As a big fan of Material and other Laswell projects, I can only concur with the above sentiments. Zorn's IAO was reviewed by yours truly for the OTO publication "The Magical Link", as was "Songs from the Hermetic Theatre". I've never heard of The Crowley Quartet, and will have to look that one up.


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"Excoriator" wrote:
"Kether" wrote:
You might like to check this Catalogue done by O.T.O. Norway:

http://www.oto.no/mmm/index.htm l"> http://www.oto.no/mmm/index.html

I'm surprised that Arild doesn't have this one listed:

http://www.eutopia.no/Music.html

Called "Bone Woman, Pagan songs from the circle", it's an interesting Norwegian effort, refreshingly lacking in Death Metal (or even rock). It has versions of The Pentagram and Hymn To Pan (with samples of both online).

They err on the side of caution in listing "OTO" as the copyright holders. They're both well out of the reach even of the U.S. laws - unless they've changed it to a century's worth recently, without telling me? (And thank the Lord for Sonny "Pro" Bono protecting artists' rights!!)

CSM

As|I said in a previous post, the pages aren't updated. And I do have Bone Woman, in fact I have two copies of it! The people who released it are very good friends of mine. Maybe the copyright listing to the OTO was more out of respect than out of caution? For what it's worth, they asked permission to use the Crowley lyrics.


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Since this particular exchange of ideas and information was brought to my attention this afternoon, and I probablt won't have the opportunity to visit this forum on a regular basis, anyone who is interested are of course welcome to contact me about the collection either to the mmm@oto.no address or the one given in a previous post ata@uib.no.

Thanks!


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"ata93" wrote:
Thanks for posting the liust from the Magick Musick Museum without acknowledgement!

Ouch!

My apologies - a glance through LAShTAL.COM shows that I tend to be meticulous about giving sources. However, I found the list on an "occult forum" site without attribution.

I'm glad that you have put that right and regret any offence caused.

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lashtal
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Please note that I've been contacted by the copyright holder of the original list and it turns out to be someone with whom I used to communicate regularly and who was very helpful to me in my initial collection of musical material relating to and inspired by Aleister Crowley.

The list is therefore now presented by kind permission of the copyright holder and attribution has been added to the original posting.

Thanks, Arild!

Your work was - and remains - an inspiration to me!

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Laswell couldn't remember exactly which cd he wrote "Do What Thou Wilt..." but he believes it was one done for a William Burroughs/Brion Gysin festival held in Dublin sometime in the mid '90's.

He also used the phrase Konx Om Pax in the booklet of the Material cd "Hallucination Engine"

And he told me that John Zorn's interest in A.C. has been quite strong in recent years. Zorn has met with Kenneth Anger at least once, possibly more, and he visited the Abbey in Cefalu about a year ago. Laswell also said he thinks Zorn is planning to release a couple of spoken word cds featuring Crowley but it's apparently difficult to understand. I don't have any further info on this.

I'm trying to reach Zorn for clarification but he's often difficult to get a hold of when he's travelling.

zardoz


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Another old, Aussie rarity I should mention, one with established Thelemic inspiration this time, is also called "Love is the Law". By another very well-known, Aussie musician, Ross Wilson, it was produced with the prog-rock band he was in, in 1969, called "The Sons of The Vegetal Mother". The song was based on, as the website has it, "Aleister Crowley's dictum 'to do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law' ".

Released on an EP called "The Garden Party" that was only ever given away at a "multi-media happening / art exhibition", there were only 250 copies; making it one of the most-prized collectibles in Australian rock music. However, the track is now available on "Now Listen! The Best Of Ross Wilson", a 2 CD set that also includes the unforgettable classic "Baby Let Me Bang Your Box"; and the bona-fide classic "Eagle Rock". Go to the Ross Wilson website and click the "now listen!" link:

http://www.rosswilson.com.au/

Wilson seems to have been discovered by a new generation as young mothers watch "Space Dancing", the Wiggles movie, with their children, hear "Eagle Rock" and go out and buy the Best Of. Next thing you know they'll be reading Lashtal. Whoever said Rock Music wasn't evil obviously didn't know just how insidious it really was...

CSM


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The list of Thelema-inspired bands should include Catalyst and Seven Ravens, both from Detroit.

http://trigrammaton.adahost.com/Trigrammaton%20Records.htm


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A while ago I found a Crowley/Pearl Jam oddity on eBay. It's a tour itinerary and backstage pass for their 1993 tour featuring a picture of Crowley. Though the auction ended a long time ago you can still see the image at the following address...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29931&item=3847872326&rd=1

Pearl Jam also produced their Tree of Life T-shirt in the same year which has an image of the Tree on the front and 'Love is the Law, Love under Will' on the back. You can find the T-Shirt at the following address...

http://www.twofeetthick.com/articleread.do?id=13

The description of the T-Shirt reads as follows...

The "Tree of Life" shirt was offered by the Ten Club in 1992-1993. The front (above left), hand drawn and lettered by Jeff Ament, depicts an actual spiritual diagram known as The Tree of Life, which is a blueprint for study of principles in many branches of mysticism and the occult, including the Kabbalah and Tarot. The Tree outlines man's relationship with the divine, using spherical diagrams and geometric paths as illustration. (We're no religious scholars, so you can find more information here ) The reverse of the shirt (above right), "Love is the law, love under will" is a phrase taken from renowned occultist Aleister Crowley's Book Of The Law and is one of the main precepts of the text and his religion. The passage from whence it came: "Invoke me under my stars! Love is the law, love under will. Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well!" Legis 1:57 It's worth noting that Jeff, among the many interviews he did for his side band Three Fish in 1996, has mentioned an interest in Crowley more than once.


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93!

I am just remembering that I once bought a German band CD with the very creative name YELWORC. This is just for the record, because in my humble opinion the musick simply sucks...

As a Frank Zappa Musick fanatic, I am so sad that there seems to be nothing obviously Thelemic in his musick.

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the_real_simon_iff wrote:"As a Frank Zappa Musick fanatic, I am so sad that there seems to be nothing obviously Thelemic in his musick. "

You may find a few heart-warming lines in "The meek shall inherit nothing" on the triple album "Thing Fish".

I'm not suggesting that FZ was directly influenced by AC but neither are a fair few of the list already. More likely he was a spontaneous expression of the Spirit of the Age.

In case you don't have it the lines I'm thinking of are:

Do what you want, do what you will,
Just don't mess up your neighbor's thrill.

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"lashtal" wrote:
- Marilyn Manson (Cleams to have been influenced by Anton LaVey but who believes him?)

Manson once stated that Crowley was one of his favourite authors. If you listen to his song Misery Machine, the chorus chants - 'We got to ride to the Abbey of Thelema!' ...listen to anything on his AntiChrist Superstar album, and it's got alot of Crowley/Nietzsche-inspired lyrics.


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John Zorn has quite a few pieces (and albums) dedicated to Crowley. As John is very passionately interested in magic, mysticism and gnosticism, it isn't surprising.

The whole "Moonchild Project" is dedicated to Crowley (as well as Antonin Artaud and Edgard Varese), there's the IAO album, then there are numerous classical works:
".·. (fay çe que vouldras)", "777" and "Hermeticum Sacrum". Plus numerous other classical pieces likely inspired by but not named specifically (like his string quartet "Necronomicon" - not actually inspired by Lovecraft, surprisingly!), "Goetia", "Rituals" and so on.

Zorn definitely doesn't betray the nature of Thelema and he has had a long time interest in ritual (like I have) and transcended states of mind.


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Zorn's interest in AC/Thelema was discussed on p. 1 of this thread, eight years ago; there have been several subsequent threads on this topic since.


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Zorn’s interest in AC/Thelema was discussed on p. 1 of this thread,

And what?

eight years ago; there have been several subsequent threads on this topic since.

I'm not aware of these subsequent threads on John Zorn, thanks for letting me know


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