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09/12/2014 9:42 pm  

'A man with good taste.' - Jimmy Page

http://www.gq.com/moty/2014/jimmy-page-men-of-the-year

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13/12/2014 12:13 am  

Sure, there are other contenders, but this must be the quote of the decade for Lashtal.com? I've been enjoying immensely the deluxe editions released this year, & I'm thinking about how I would not have read AC until much later (if at all) if it wasn't for the work of Jimmy Page.


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13/12/2014 6:18 pm  

What kind of person buys any house for any reason?

Did Page take his magickal training seriously or was he just a poseur using his link to Crowley as a front?  He owned a publishing company and  bookshop which dealt in Crowley's works but that doesn't tell me anything.


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13/12/2014 7:08 pm  

Why should he "take his magickal training seriously"? there are plenty of people whose interest in Crowley doesn't extend beyond the intellectual. Nothing wrong with that. If you want to move beyond that into magical working then OK, but it's not obligatory.


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13/12/2014 7:13 pm  

'What kind of man buys Aleister Crowley's mansion?'

One with a lot of money.

Did Page take his magickal training seriously or was he just a poseur using his link to Crowley as a front?

That's a thoroughly absurd question; given Page's esteemed position as one of the foremost musicians of the 20th c. It's more likely that AC is the benefactor from Page's interest.


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13/12/2014 8:30 pm  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:

Did Page take his magickal training seriously or was he just a poseur using his link to Crowley as a front?

That's a thoroughly absurd question; given Page's esteemed position as one of the foremost musicians of the 20th c. It's more likely that AC is the benefactor from Page's interest.

Nicely phrased, Michael. Very silly remark, David.

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13/12/2014 9:19 pm  
"lashtal" wrote:
"michaelclarke18" wrote:

Did Page take his magickal training seriously or was he just a poseur using his link to Crowley as a front?

That's a thoroughly absurd question; given Page's esteemed position as one of the foremost musicians of the 20th c. It's more likely that AC is the benefactor from Page's interest.

Nicely phrased, Michael. Very silly remark, David.

"Stairway to heaven" is probably the most overrated songs ever.  Hendrix had more command of the guitar,Plant's lyrics are piss poor but LZep did some epic songs yes.  Some.  However that folky instrumental thing was done way better by the Jefferson Airplane and I think LZep shouldve split up after Physical Graffiti.  Bowie is a way better representative of the Crowleyan magickal current imo.


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13/12/2014 9:44 pm  

In Thelema we meditate we train ourselves to deconstruct ideas.  Deconstruct the Page Crowley link.  What is LZep?  Bluesy, jazzy, grim melancholic folk, 70s English prog rock.  This doesn't grab my balls y'know.  Lots of other bands in the 70s did bluesy, folky JSBach inspired keyboard.  What if the guy out of Yes bought Boleskine or  Rory Gallagher?  I love a lot of Zep but a lot of it is not good. All rocknroll is Thelemic imo if its good.  Like I said Bowie is a well better rep of Crowleys magickal current.


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13/12/2014 10:24 pm  

What shoulders musically did Page stand on?  John Lee Hooker? Jefferson Airplane?  Hendrix?  The Beatles (hello none of those 70s bands wouldve existed without them),  Clapton's Cream, general psychedelia etc etc.  Page's musical heroes to whom he owes absolutely everything  (say Hank Marvin) what if one of them bought Boleskine?  Seriously Thelema per se has nothing to do with English prog-rock bourgeoise biker chique does it now?  I mean there's no intrinsic connection between raja yoga, jugorum, sex magick and spiritual scepticism and Zeppelin is there now? Don't be silly.    I'd say that Stevo's Some Bizzarre records and Mute records  have more to do with Crowley and Thelema  than Page and Zeppelin in other words my Thelemic associations may not be yours but that's all they are: personalized conditioned associations. 

To prove my point my rational and practical point ;Who owns Boleskine now by the way?


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13/12/2014 10:58 pm  

This doesn't grab my balls y'know.

we do now.


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13/12/2014 11:09 pm  
"david" wrote:
To prove my point my rational and practical point ;Who owns Boleskine now by the way?

No idea, david. How does that prove your point, and what is it anyway?


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13/12/2014 11:11 pm  
"david" wrote:
  Bowie is a way better representative of the Crowleyan magickal current imo.

Laughing Gnome?

OK


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14/12/2014 11:12 am  
"david" wrote:
All rocknroll is Thelemic imo if its good.

What is it about rocknroll that you regard as Thelemic, david? Is it any more Thelemic than, say, music by joni Mitchell, Miles Davis, Mozart, etc.? What do you regard as "Thelemic" when it comes to music?

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Like I said Bowie is a well better rep of Crowleys magickal current.

What is it about Bowie's music that leads you to think that?


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14/12/2014 3:44 pm  
"OKontrair" wrote:
"david" wrote:
  Bowie is a way better representative of the Crowleyan magickal current imo.

Laughing Gnome?

Let's Dance?


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16/12/2014 1:28 pm  
"david" wrote:
What shoulders musically did Page stand on?  John Lee Hooker? Jefferson Airplane?  Hendrix? 

Page was in a touring rockabilly band when he was 16 years old; he went on to become one of two of the most sought after session guitarists in England; the other was Jim Sullivan. Page's session work dates back to the early 1960s, which puts him at the forefront of the sixties music revolution.

Page played on early sessions with the Kinks, The Who and many other bands before the first Hendrix recording was released. Not to take anything away from Hendrix--Are You Experienced? was the first definitive hard rock album--but overall Page was a more versatile musician and producer than Hendrix. They never met by the way, and Page never saw Hendrix perform.

The Beatles (hello none of those 70s bands wouldve existed without them),  Clapton's Cream, general psychedelia etc etc.  Page's musical heroes to whom he owes absolutely everything 

As demonstrated above, your chronology in regards to which musicians came first is incorrect; Page was in the trenches as a true early pioneer of both hard rock and psychedelia.

Listening to Led Zeppelin was for myself and millions of others a truly mystical experience during the 1970s, Page owning Boleskine was minor facet of the mystique surrounding Led Zeppelin. In case you're not aware of it, Stairway To Heaven was the most requested song of the 70s, 80s, and 90s; the song remains the same ( ;)), it's the outlook of younger generations that has changed.


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17/12/2014 1:04 am  

Dwtw

We all have our aesthetic opinions, but any attempt to disparage Led Zeppelin and minimize the importance of Jimmy Page is questionable at best, if not downright laughable.

  • As far as guitarists go, Jimi Hendrix and Jeff Beck (and many others) are much better technically, and maybe even musically. But Hendrix burned out quickly, and Beck doesn't write his own music very often. Both have a small body of work, while Page has played on more songs than you can possibly count.
  • As far as songwriters go, there are hundreds who are 'better' than Page in a narrow genre, such as Pete Townshend or Ian Anderson. But there are few guitarists who have his range of styles and knack for the fantastic riff.
  • As far as producers go, many can outshine Page, such as George Martin, Jeff Lynne, Daniel Lanois, and Phil Spector. But how many of them are guitarists who can produce their own music with such a clarity of vision and a timelessness to their sonic signature?

Page is in the top tier of all three groups. When you tie those three rings together, like the triquetra on Bonham's drum kit, you will have to admit that Jimmy Page is the preeminent guitarist-songwriter-producer of the rock era. Bar none.

So what kind of man buys Boleskine House? A man with good taste - in many things - and with a body of work that will still be admired when we're all as dead as the bodies in Boleskine Burial Ground.

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17/12/2014 3:48 pm  

While this is all good and well it is also true the Jimmy Page SOLD the house and is now in the hands of someone who isn't even remotely interested in Thelema at least as far as I know.
So...


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17/12/2014 4:03 pm  
"hoornet" wrote:
So...

So ... what?


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22/12/2014 10:35 pm  

Actually, Page was in a skiffle band before he was 16, I assume the rockabilly came later? There's a well-known clip of him being interviewed after a rendition of "pick a bale of cotton".

Page was first and foremost a working guitarist, he played as a rock session musician for a number of years before joining the Yardbirds. Even at his most brilliant his guitar was contributing to the song, whereas others used songs to show off their tricks. Like Clem Cattini, the drummer, he could play just about everything. Stairway to Heaven is a good example, for decades Thelemites would drone on about it being a song about Babalon before it became clear Plant had written the lyrics.

For me When The Levee Breaks is his finest.

I speak as someone who sang in the same band as Jimmy Page. OK, so he was in it in 1964 for 2 months and I just sang two songs with them in 2009, but still....


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