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djedi
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11/02/2020 9:05 pm  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7986495/Woman-reveals-stumbled-meeting-SATANIC-SEX-CULT-having-brunch-vegan-cafe.html

"After taking to Twitter to share her story, she discovered it was likely a meeting of Order of Oriental Templars, or OTO - a group which was brought to Britain in the early 20th century by infamous occultist Aleister Crowley, who was widely believed to be a satanist, and was dubbed 'the wickedest man in the world'."

What I like is that it's under the femail category, meaning this article is targeted to women.


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Jamie J Barter
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11/02/2020 11:02 pm  

Apart from anything else in this rather curious (but not altogether incredible) story, the idea that the "OTO" would be holding meetings over/ around the time of "brunch" seems way off: practically all meetings of which I was aware when I was a member were held in the afternoon or early evening.

Also, they have to meet somewhere, and maybe the Bonnington's hire rates were more competitive than elsewhere.  While in the Caliphornian Inc. myself during the late '80s I decided to book some of the meetings of the London group for which I was then responsible at the Columbia - the so-called fondly celebrated "rock and roll Hotel" visited by bands whilst touring - in Bayswater, and atmospheric it was too but unfortunately we had to switch somewhere more downmarket once the fees became uneconomic.  (In fact tone of my abiding memories is of bumping into Noddy Holder there in one of the corridors whist in my 'black robe' and searching for the toilet myself; I rather wanted to stop and give thanks & appreciation to him for that incredible run of Slade singles in the early 70s but unfortunately before being able to do so a temporary shyness suddenly overcame me at the thought that I might thereby possibly run the risk of "freaking the poor guy out" with a good old fashioned hue & cry subsequently being raised...) 

Sic transit et cetera,

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11/02/2020 11:14 pm  

A brush with greatness! Noddy is among my favorite singers, and a fab slide guitarist as well.

[Wonders to self- was that top hat with mirrors on an amateur psychoanalysts's hat?]

Sad really that the (c)OTO can't afford to own premises in London, or in NYC, or...

But the lawyers must be paid, and all that duplexity don't come for free.


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12/02/2020 1:45 am  

(...) She continued: He points up more stairs, and I awkwardly push past polite shrouded members until I reach a completely normal toilet. (...)

(indecent words) vegans. At least she reached "a completely normal toilet" (her words). What the hell she has expected?


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Jamie J Barter
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12/02/2020 9:37 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Sad really that the (c)OTO can't afford to own premises in London, or in NYC, or...

But the lawyers must be paid, and all that

Sad also isn't it to reflect that ScientologyR appears to have successfully managed the trick of pulling both of these off instead...

NJ  oy


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12/02/2020 2:10 pm  

Some commentary:

https://www.marcovisconti.org/pies-wide-shut/

 


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12/02/2020 3:55 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

Some commentary:

Half-heartedly performing a ritual, the meaning of which is lost on the earthbound participants, only as a pretense toward an evening of drinking and grab-ass. The AMeTh lodge sounds an awful lot like those Freemasons our Azrael likes so well.

I have to wonder, though, if these little fraters and sorors weren't engaging in some kind of magical exhibitionism: performing sacred acts in the dark, but at a very public place and just aching for someone to open the door and see. 


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12/02/2020 5:14 pm  

I agree with Marco, in my opinion it is rather stupid that they would have rituals and meetings in a public place, especially one where people can and do just barge in. It does not leave it very sacrosanct. 

They should have the temple in someone's home or somewhere else private. 


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12/02/2020 5:23 pm  

@djedi it's FRATRES and SORORES. 

Can "occultists" please stop butchering Latin? 

Now that said... no, they weren't engaging in any sort of exhibitionism: if anything, my experience with them told me that most people at AMeTh are rather prudish. It's simply a case of not wanting to invest in a better, private space, because in the end everyone is happy with the meagre £15/month fee for their little escapism.

And funny you mention the Freemasons, because at least here in London I can go to my Lodge in Freemasons Hall, a marvel of Art Deco. And there people know their rituals by heart, without needing paper sheets to read... 

 


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12/02/2020 7:53 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

it's FRATRES and SORORES.

I'm an only child, so I wouldn't know.

Posted by: @azrael2393

my experience with them told me that most people at AMeTh are rather prudish.

Then perhaps you would care to elaborate how these pusillanimous urbanite poseurs browbeat you, for four years, into maintaining this unacceptable standard of the glassy-eyed hoi polloi trundling into your temple thinking it's a public toilet. As treasurer, I should think you would have had the ability (if not authority) to decide a more suitable location, and expeditiously with "tens of thousands" in the bank. I suppose, though, in your defense, it would be difficult for a person in your position to exert control under those circumstances; my understanding is that generally Britons have a disregard for Europeans of continental extraction, and I see no reason for these 'escapists' you describe to be any different, even if they see themselves differently.

If the "upper management" you allude to in your blog is this Master Soror, and a disciple of To Mega Therion couldn't get so much as one woman under his thumb, then I see why you would run off to an exclusively fraternal organization like the Freemasons.

(And just between us boys, I can appreciate the irony of denouncing a neo-Nazi using imagery admiring of Stanley Kubrick, a man who the co-author of Eyes Wide Shut quoted as having said, "Hitler was right about almost everything." Very clever.)


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12/02/2020 8:00 pm  

You don't deserve further replies. 

 


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12/02/2020 8:55 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

Can "occultists" please stop butchering Latin? 

No. It is the nature of languages to "run downhill,"  degrading as it were, and over time all lingos anicca - pass away. This is assuredly caused by smart-assed teenagers who invent new meaningless words and phrases, and generally show disrespect towards their parents and rules of lingo.

As to the rest of the recent replies, I have become confused and disabled in my thinking. It almost seemed like a personal interrogation was launched along with free advice as to what some person/people should have done (past tense).

I was (not Aiwass) under the impression that people could produce a ceremony anywhere/everywhere, as long as they had a permit or did not get caught by the police.

 

 

 


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12/02/2020 9:04 pm  
Posted by: @shiva

I was (not Aiwass) under the impression that people could produce a ceremony anywhere/everywhere, as long as they had a permit or did not get caught by the police.

Agree to disagree and all that jazz: for me it heavily depends on what kind of ceremony. 

Moreover, another issue here is OTO Inc. obsession with the mantra "our member's identity must be protected at all costs" while allowing Lodge private events to allow on a semi-public space. Double standards, as usual.


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12/02/2020 11:58 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

You don't deserve further replies. 

Ah, your towering intellect continues to stagger me. Instead of simply answering my question as to how you were so handily abused and debauched by your friends in the AMeTh lodge, you instead demonstrate for us all the effete recreancy with which you answer a challenge, and which allowed for your aforementioned browbeating. With replies so well thought out, it's no wonder the Freemasons let you pay to be one of them. But don't worry, I won't think any less of you for keeping silent; it may do you well to practice the fourth power inbetween vampirizing trashy headlines in trashy magazines for your own aggrandizement.

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I was (not Aiwass) under the impression that people could produce a ceremony anywhere/everywhere, as long as they had a permit or did not get caught by the police.

(Oh, Shiva, I can still play.) I don't suppose you mean to say that all ceremonies, independent of the location of their performance in the flesh, are ultimately performed in one 'real place'? An "anywhere/everywhere" archetypical place, containing therein all potential AND real places? A hidden but foundational place? Where spectators and reputations can't follow you?


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13/02/2020 1:47 am  
Posted by: @djedi

my question as to how you were so handily abused and debauched by your friends in the AMeTh lodge

Your question is to him, but I'll  stick in a reminder ...

It doesn't matter who you sign up with,
or which the letters of their lo-ghee-oh.
It doesn't matter now they abuse you
as long as they put on a really good show.

Every aspirant must cross The Burning Ground.
An "Outer Order" they call it; saying it's all brand new.
But it's the same olde torture, he has found,
that's waiting for all pilgrims, even me and you.

Everybody must get stoned,

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I don't suppose you mean to say that all ceremonies, independent of the location of their performance in the flesh, are ultimately performed in one 'real place'?

No. That isn't what I meant to say. I meant to say what I said. If I got some words mixed up, or mis-spelled, or inverted, then that's just tough luck for my interpreters, because I don't remember what I said or wrote or meant.

I guess that clears things up pretty smartly.

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hidden but foundational place? Where spectators and reputations can't follow you?

Oh, yeah!  That place. Los 8=3 calls it woo-woo land.

 


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