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03/09/2008 12:29 am  

Regular visitors will know that I'm quite fond of this absurdist romp with its barnstorming turn by Simon Callow.

And for those that doubt the seriousness of intent behind director Julian Doyle's production, here's a photo of him with ... a certain wand that might be familiar. Photographed at... No, not yet...

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03/09/2008 2:22 am  

Ok so when is the DVD release?


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03/09/2008 8:21 am  
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93, Paul!

You certainly know how to tease us...

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03/09/2008 9:34 am  

You can pre-order on Amazon - alolegedly the UK release date is 8 September


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03/09/2008 7:51 pm  

And a close-up...

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03/09/2008 11:06 pm  

Thank you for posting these pics Paul. I'm very interested in seeing this film, but slightly concerned that it's gonna be more along the lines of sensationalism rather than informative by judging the trailer. I hope I'm wrong.


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03/09/2008 11:12 pm  

Oh no, you're not wrong! It is a comedic romp, a pastiche, a piece of slapstick: a confection. And it's great fun! But "informative"? Not really... I think it's more likely to function as a portal: people will see Mr Callow's outrageous - and brilliant - performance and start searching the web for information on Crowley, hopefully reading the books and, who knows, maybe even starting the Work.

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04/09/2008 1:25 am  

Absolutely! "who knows, maybe even starting the Work." unquote lashtal.

Purists might argue against this, but in reality it's an injection or impetus if you like for more interest in our friend Al.


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04/09/2008 2:33 am  
"lashtal" wrote:
Oh no, you're not wrong! It is a comedic romp, a pastiche, a piece of slapstick: a confection. And it's great fun! But "informative"? Not really... I think it's more likely to function as a portal: people will see Mr Callow's outrageous - and brilliant - performance and start searching the web for information on Crowley, hopefully reading the books and, who knows, maybe even starting the Work.

Thanks Paul. Some very good and valid points. For whatever reason I wasn't considering the possibly of all the positives that can come from this film. You are very correct that this film can expose more people to take a look, and hopefully a serious study of AC's life and Work. I'm very excited to see it.


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04/09/2008 6:56 am  

Very good point. Nice photos, thanks!


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04/09/2008 12:22 pm  

There are more photographs in the "Chemical Wedding" album in the Galleries here. More photos to follow...

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04/09/2008 6:45 pm  

Lucy Cudden who plays one of the lead roles as the red headed journalist in Chemical Wedding can currently be seen as 'Gamer Girl' in the latest comedy series from the BBC called 'The Wrong Door' http://www.bbc.co.uk/wrongdoor /"> http://www.bbc.co.uk/wrongdoor/

Once you enter the site, click on the 'characters' link where you can see clips from the series...


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06/09/2008 2:15 pm  

Well, they're out: received my copy from Play.com today.

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06/09/2008 2:37 pm  

I just checked Amazon.com USA for any release info and found nothing for the DVD, but an import CD Soundtrack and a paperback book, which isn't available yet. Any info on the book? Sorry in advance if this has been discussed before. I haven't seen mention of it.


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06/09/2008 3:51 pm  
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I just checked Amazon.com USA for any release info and found nothing for the DVD, but an import CD Soundtrack and a paperback book, which isn't available yet. Any info on the book? Sorry in advance if this has been discussed before. I haven't seen mention of it.

Play.com gave the soundtrack away free with the DVD. It's a Region 2 DVD, by the way. The book's been available for ages in the UK (I bought mine at the movie's world premiere) and can be bought from Amazon.co.uk: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chemical-Wedding-Julian-Doyle/dp/1906510903/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220712420&sr=8-3

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07/09/2008 2:15 am  

Initial reactions...

Watching the movie again, I'm happy with the tone and content of my original review which, I freely admit, is more favourable than most.

It's described on the DVD as an "Extended Version", although there's nothing in the movie here that I don't recall seeing in the worldwide premiere.

The "Deleted Scenes" are interesting and add value.

The "Making Of" featurette is, to be frank, rather feeble and adds nothing.

The commentary by Bruce Dickinson and Julian Doyle is very informative and amusing. Sure, most of the Crowley anecdotes are confused but they demonstrate a seriousness of purpose that I considered evident in the movie.

Simon Callow remains simply astonishing!

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07/09/2008 3:34 am  

I also saw the trailer of the movie a little while ago and could'nt be so happy with it, I ofcourse know very well that the movie is a pastiche, a kind of slapstick but from what I saw I could'nt be so happy, it might be that I'm wrong, but to me the movie seems to be a little bit too childisch. And I just don't like it. Probably I might be too much an admirer of Crowley and maybe in a wrong kind of way I just don't know, but I just am not pleased with it, Simon Callow probably is a good kind of an actor, I think so, but the movie just don't seem to be anything to my liking. It is ofcourse hoped for that the movie might function as a portal initiating some of the general members of the public to a more unbiased look at Crowley, and that some might start to read his writings and even start the G W.


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07/09/2008 9:48 pm  
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I also saw the trailer of the movie a little while ago and could'nt be so happy with it, I ofcourse know very well that the movie is a pastiche, a kind of slapstick but from what I saw I could'nt be so happy, it might be that I'm wrong, but to me the movie seems to be a little bit too childisch.

Alysa: please tell me you've not based the whole of that post on a viewing of an advertisement for the movie?

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08/09/2008 12:27 am  

I saw more items now in relation to the movie and I think these items seem to be a little bit more positive to the movie, yeah, I think the movie certainly have its merits, I'm certainly a little bit more positive about the movie than I was first, still have some doubts about the movie.


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08/09/2008 12:59 am  

I'd like to hear input from members that have actually seen the thing.

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08/09/2008 8:59 am  

I went to the premiere earleir this year and thought the film flawed but charming and very funny. Not everyone who is interested in Crowley is a Thelemite and that really is at the bottom of a lot of the criticism. It's not a film about Thelema, its an enjoyable film that uses the character of Aleister Crowley as an effective plot device.

I interviewed Julian Doyle last week and found him very interesting and although his knowledge of Crowley isn't encyclopaedic, he really does have a genuine interest in the man. We mustn't forget when criticising Chemical Wedding that getting the finances to fund such a project many compromises have to be made, otherwise the project never gets offf the ground. I'll be buying the DVD today.


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08/09/2008 9:33 am  

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I haven't seen the DVD version, but I did see the film at the cinema.

Obviously the film was never intended as a documentry and it must be viewed in that light. In my opinion it works rather well as light entertainment. Some of the earlier postings remind me of when I used to watch war films with my father .......... he had actually been in some of the battles and got annoyed when for example, a late design tank was anachronistically shown in an early combat. However as a young boy, I used to love the action scenes and really couldn't have cared less about such historic detail.

I am sure that watching war films played some part in my early desire to join the army. Now that I am older, I appreciate that such films are not the best basis for careers advice. Similarly, The Chemical Wedding is far from being an accurate representation of Crowley or Thelema ....but who knows, it may enthuse some people to look a bit more deeply into the field.

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"manofwycombe" wrote:
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I haven't seen the DVD version, but I did see the film at the cinema.

Obviously the film was never intended as a documentry and it must be viewed in that light. In my opinion it works rather well as light entertainment. Some of the earlier postings remind me of when I used to watch war films with my father .......... he had actually been in some of the battles and got annoyed when for example, a late design tank was anachronistically shown in an early combat. However as a young boy, I used to love the action scenes and really couldn't have cared less about such historic detail.

I am sure that watching war films played some part in my early desire to join the army. Now that I am older, I appreciate that such films are not the best basis for careers advice. Similarly, The Chemical Wedding is far from being an accurate representation of Crowley or Thelema ....but who knows, it may enthuse some people to look a bit more deeply into the field.

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93 Clive,

Have not seen it yet, things come slowly to the backwaters (USA). I agree that some expectations are probably too high. I'm looking forward to a humorous confection that just might contain a hook. 🙂

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09/09/2008 12:09 pm  

The movie gets 4 out of 5 stars from Metro newspaper, whose reviewer seems to get the point of "this bonkers affair", which is "brilliant, for all the wrong reasons."

http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/films/article.html?Cult_vulture:_Chemical_Wedding&in_article_id=298555&in_page_id=27&in_a_source=

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10/09/2008 4:19 am  

93,
Wow! I have just been looking over the awesome pictures in the "Chemical Wedding" gallery. What great pictures! Thanks to LAShTAL for providing those! I especially liked the "Monks" picture. That is the first time I have seen a picture of what I assume is the original? What color and detail! That has always been one of my favorites from A.C.'s artwork. Quick question though, what are the two white blobs right and left of the monks? It almost looks like paint chips.

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11/09/2008 12:02 am  

There will be a special showing of IRON MAIDEN singer BRUCE DICKINSON's Chemical Wedding film at the Electric Palace Cinema in Hastings on Wednesday 29th October. Julian Doyle (long time Monty Python editor) will be holding a Q&A afterwards.

Full details:

Electric Palace Cinema
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Doors open at 7.15 for an 8pm start. Tickets are £5.50 / £4.50.

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11/09/2008 1:49 pm  

Well i have finally seen it. I have been reserving judgement up until now and would not comment on something i have not seen.
Actually picked it up in our local Asda! for just over a tenner....so didnt have to wait for it in the post.

OK i agree that is is a rollicking tongue in cheek film and needs to be watched with that in mind. I promised my wife i would not make comments throughout on the inaccurate references....which i managed to do quite well.
I laughed out loud at a few of the scenes (acquiring the suit from the local gents was particularly funny) and Simon Callows performance was very very good.

Heres the BUT....BUT the script was at times incomprehensible! The concept of a Moonchild was treated "oh its some elemental virgin birth thingy!" just didnt cut it. Why Crowley objected to a Moonchild was not clarified.....the fact that Mathers (yuk....why did they have to use every name from Crowleys contemporaries and associates???!!!) was clearly the Moonchild was referenced but not expanded upon made it all the more confusing. I am not going to pretend here and give a thesis on what the filmmakers may have been trying to achieve. I can only say that my companion viewer who has no interest in Crowley/Magick/et all watched it with an open mind. At the end she asked "Whats a Moonchild" I rest my case.

Ahhh...i wanted to comment on this movie as there has been much said about. I have fell in to the trap of criticising it on the technicalities. I should view it as more of a 60's/70's style Hammer horror film for the noughties. Thats how it felt to me at times. And for that ...you cant really criticise it.
It was fun, interesting from a Crowley perspective if ever so largely flawed throughout.

My main concern after viewing was that it reinforces the stereotype of Crowley as a man who would hypnotise, sodomise and kill you because he was "evil"! Crowley has been used here as a fictional character that i hope those with half a clue can see beyond.
It will, however, reinforce any future scandalous claims and references in the UK press....nowt new there though!

Enjoy it.....but Bruce....stick to singing in front of your Mummy!


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11/09/2008 3:21 pm  

Why should mr. Bruce only have to sing.


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11/09/2008 8:21 pm  

Brilliant - a work of art - truly a gem among the rough....

I agree with Paul on this - as long as you dont take it too seriously, its a real comedic romp - and like it or hate it - it will get you thinking - and after all, isnt that the point - or at least one of them...

When there are so many good things about it I wonder why the negitive is focused on so often?
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11/09/2008 8:22 pm  

Now this is what I call a review:

Callow is great fun and so hammy you could throw in a couple of fried eggs and call him breakfast...

Thanks to http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/hertfordshiremercury-leisure-film/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=348198

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13/09/2008 9:58 pm  

Just watched it, and quite enjoyed it, although it's a pile of tosh. I don't think it'll attract anyone to the legacy of AC other than the usual disaffected metalheads. Callow obviously had great fun doing it, and was very good. Can't say the same for some of the other acting.
My major problems with it however, are technical. Whoever mixed the sound should go back to school. A lot of the dialogue was virtually inaudible if there was any other sound or music going on, and if the character moved away from the camera. This was particularly evident in the first third for some reason. I noted the boom operator was related to the director (or at least had the same surname, so i'm presuming....) Also some really bad camera work which stood out because there were shots done in more difficult lighting conditions which looked much better.
It's no work of art, and it's not what the Thelemic community was waiting for.At least there wasn't too much Iron Maiden in the soundtrack, though the sudden extreme increase in sound levels during one scene involving such music was REALLY annoying .
Oh by the way, just to reiterate, I quite enjoyed it.It was in the Horror section of the local HMV. If you want a good horror movie.... rec is it.


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13/09/2008 10:08 pm  

since there's no edit function:
ps: I watched it in 5.1 surround, allegedly.


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14/09/2008 12:08 pm  

I finally watched it on DVD last night. I wanted a lot of it. One of my favourite films is "Night of the Demon", based on M R James' "Casting of the Runes", and my main misgiving about that was that the magician's just revenge should be overturned by a pair of know-nothings (does this make me evil?). I've been a fan of Simon Callow since I first saw him on TV in Chance in a Million. I was quite prepared to see the whole thing treated as a simple horror story, and was prepared to forgive that as putting off slaves while encouraging others to find out more - my own interest in the occult starting in childhood partly as a result of Dennis Wheatley and H P Lovecraft.

So I expected a lot of this film, I wanted it to replace Night of the Demon but without the cop-out ending. Maybe it was this over-expectation, but I felt unsatisfied at the end. I agree with the observation that the script was sometimes incomprehensible, and not helped by the sound track overwhelming the dialogue early on. That said, it certainly has its high points. I particularly enjoyed Crowley/Haddo emerging from the gents like some malicious version of George Melly, and the inclusion of Henry Hall and George Formby on the soundtrack was appreciated. I watched it with my wife who is less than sympathetic to Thelema and I struggled to avoid blathering on about all the little references in the film for the cognoscenti. She said little after, but I expect acid comment on my return from my next OTO meeting!

I think my expectations probably influenced my reaction as, in fairness, the production values were generally fairly good and it had a decent little horror story to tell - though I would have preferred a different ending. I'll have to try loaning it to my daughter to watch without me there and with less bias. While continuing the Bottomley approach to Crowley, at least it makes no pretence to being more than a fiction - more than can be said for "In Search of the Great Beast" where the absurdities are blended in with facts so as to make them indistinguishable.


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14/09/2008 3:02 pm  

My thanks to Chameleon for pointing out this article from The Times:

XL collapse: Iron Maiden to the rescue
Simon Alford

IT was business as usual for Iron Maiden frontman Bruce Dickinson this weekend — not belting out a heavy-metal hit to a packed stadium crowd with his band — but taking control of a Boeing 757.

Dickinson, 50, was one of the pilots and crew who helped man specially chartered flights to ease the crisis facing travellers this weekend following the collapse of XL.

The singer, who has worked for the airline Astraeus for nine years, took up flying during a low point in his solo career after he quit the band in 1993. He trained to fly commercial jets and has been a captain with Astraeus for 2Å years.

Although he rejoined the band in 1999 he continues to work as a full-time pilot taking leaves of absence when the group goes on tour. “My life’s great,” he said yesterday, “I get paid to do my two hobbies.”

Yesterday morning he came to the rescue of 221 holidaymakers stranded in the Egyptian resort of Sharm-el-Sheikh. Last night he was back in the air to collect another batch of tourists stuck on the Greek island of Kos. Earlier this month he flew 106 RAF crew back to the UK after service in Afghanistan on a plane chartered by the Ministry of Defence.

Since rejoining the group, who have sold 80m albums and whose hits include Run to the Hills and The Number of the Beast, Dickinson has flown his bandmates around the world in a customised 757 dubbed “Ed Force One” after the group’s mascot “Eddie”. “I get 80% of my income through performing with Iron Maiden but only spend 20% of my time with the group,” he said.

When not on stage or in the cockpit, Dickinson has also worked as a radio DJ and co-written a feature-length film.

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14/09/2008 4:28 pm  

Thank you both very much for putting that news on Lashtal.com.


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29/09/2008 7:32 pm  

It was only last week that I got my hands on the DVD from blockbuster's rental outlet.

I firstly want to say, Paul you were right to praise it! Its very well made and very funny. I just dont understand the critics dismissal of it.
There were moments of bad acting (younger cast members) but Callow was magnificent.

I think you need some background knowledge to appreciate it fully, especially the Parsons links etc but it all came together rather well for me. So, yes... its a laugh. I was relived it wasnt so bad as I was told. phew.

Im still waiting for Bruce LaBruce to make a version tho.. did anyone see 'Otto, up with the dead people? gosh! that was dark.


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30/09/2008 6:11 pm  

I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Just finished watching it, and I think it's awesome. I'll definately watch again! I do agree about the sound quality, but the dialogue was only inaudible in a few spots. And then there was that one unexpectedly loud spot of music in the middle. Overall a great film. I do wish they hadn't misquoted in a few spots but oh well that's life.


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30/09/2008 7:44 pm  

I just finished watching Chemical Wedding and I was staggered by its sense of good fun. How this movie could not be a positive influence toward drawing people to Crowley's works is beyond me. I venture to say that Old Crow himself would have been quite pleased with this work. Hilarious and charming, Callow was a whirlwind of excellence.


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30/09/2008 7:53 pm  

Well said, Wulfram! At last... Someone gets the point.

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19/10/2008 1:09 am  

93

For those of you who have already watched the movie Chemical Wedding I was wondering if you could fill in the blank on a question for me.

First Bruce and Julie did a wonderful job with the naming of certain characters as well as to a point there place so to speak such as Lia , Mathers, and of course Victor, Unless it's just me i found a sick joy in seeing the character Victor acted like Crowley's little puppy just like the Victor Neuburg in real life.

My question is the character Symons who as a young man was there when Crowley died (in the movie) and then later helped Mathers to defeat Haddo who was his character named from. I noticed that to a point many if not all the main characters names are people in Crowley's life and can't seem to place Symons unless i am missing it somewhere.

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19/10/2008 2:00 am  

John Symonds.

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19/10/2008 2:23 am  

thank you Paul


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19/10/2008 3:11 am  

Yes thank you Paul, didn't know that Mr. John Symonds knew Dylan Thomas.


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29/10/2008 8:12 pm  

Got my copy in the post this morning... played a few seconds just to make sure it played... and laughed outrageously at the song under the 'Hastings 1947' caption 😉

Looking forward to watching it immensly...


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29/10/2008 9:09 pm  

Forthampton Court, ancestral home of the Yorkes.

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31/10/2008 10:01 am  

To begin,

It was better than I expected. The comical angle worked extremley well and in my opinion somewhat saved it. Callow was brilliant and I am really quite taken aback at how well he played Aleister, he just isnt someone you would consider casting.
The only bone of contention for me was that it played up to the most evil man reputation. I mean sure its a comical and indulgent delight but regardless I would have liked to have seen that notion stunted and somehwhat made a mockery of.

Overall great fun but I still await a serious and accurate work that pays a great homage to our friend Mr Crowley.


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31/10/2008 2:27 pm  

Whilst I agree that Simon Callow's performance was outstanding I was a litttle concerned that it does appear to perpetuate the stereotypical public perceptions of Crowley. Whilst it may attract further interest in Crowley from some quarters it will also put others off who may have found, with further investigation, that there was a great deal more depth to Crowley and his Work than generally understood.
Of course this was never meant to be a serious attempt to portray Crowley or his Work but to be honest, at times, it felt as if Barbara Windsor might totter in commenting 'Do What Thou Wilt ....you saucepot!' Carry on Crowley indeed.
Whilst I'm sure the man himself would have loved the film, It needed at least some something to raise questions and some doubt in the public perception of a very complex and misunderstood man.


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