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Kenneth Grant Complete Typhonian Trilogies For Sale - 9 Vols  

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 Anonymous
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08/02/2012 8:53 pm  

Hi Everyone,
93,

I have for sale a complete set of all 9 typhonian trilogies. All are from my personal collection and all but 1 are 1st editions.
They are descibed in more detail below. I only want to sell as a set and am looking for offers in the region on £950 and I will post worldwide for free.

The Magical Revival - Muller, 1972 - 1st Edition
Black leatherette boards, silver gilt title to spine, fine copy with good clipped jacket. Jacket has minor shelfwear
ISBN: 584-10175-9

Aleister Crowley And The Hidden God - Muller, 1973 - 1st Edition
Black cloth boards, gold gilt title to spine, fine copy with good clipped jacket. Jacket has shelf wear to top of spine and small tears to the bottom
ISBN: 0-584-10011-6

Nightside Of Eden - Skoob, 1994 - 1st Corrected Reprint
Black cloth boards, silver gilt title to spine, fine copy with fine unclipped jacket
ISBN: 1-871438-72-1

Cults Of The Shadow - Muller, 1975 - 1st Edition
Black cloth boards, silver gilt title to spine, very good copy with good unclipped jacket. Very small tears to top and bottom of spine of jacket
ISBN: 0-584-10058-9

Outside The Circles Of Time - Muller, 1980 - 1st Edition
Black cloth boards, gold gilt title to spine, very good book with very good, clipped jacket, browning to pages as is common with this issue due to the paper type used
ISBN: 0-584-10468-5

Hecates Fountain - Skoob, 1992 - 1st Edition
Black cloth boards, silver gilt title to spine, fine copy with fine unclipped jacket, previous owners name in ink on inside cover
ISBN: 1-871438-96-9

Outer Gateways - Skoob, 1994 - 1st Edition, Still Sealed
New
ISBN: 1-871438-12-8

Beyond The Mauve Zone - Starfire, 1999 - 1st Edition, Limited 1000 Copies
Black cloth boards, gold gilt title to spine, very fine copy with very fine unclipped jacket, as new
ISBN: 0-9527824-5-6

The Ninth Arch - Starfire, 2002 - 1st Edition, Limited 1000 Copies
Black cloth boards, gold gilt title to spine, very fine copy with very fine unclipped jacket, as new
ISBN: 0-9543887-0-4[/font:3dtgg9bv]


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einDoppelganger
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09/02/2012 3:56 am  

HI Crowley666,

welcome to LAShTAL...

usually its frowned upon to join the site and make a sale your first posting.

Since this is an international user base on the site, do you care to tell us where are these posting from?

einD


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 Anonymous
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09/02/2012 8:42 am  

Hi
93
Thankyou for the warm welcome and telling off
Apologies, I was not aware that there were so many unwritten rules governing a thelemic site.
Your correct in that I am new therefore am not aware of these rules that I assume are second nature to those long standing members.
Maybe a sticky 'dos and donts' would be useful so new forum members can read the list of frowned upon actions and be sure to adhere.
Do what thou wilt as long as no one objects is the whole of the law.

Anyway on to your question. The books are currently residing in the homeland of our prophet and will be sent via priority royal mail worldwide tracked and insured service.
Thankyou
93 93/93


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Michael Staley
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09/02/2012 9:29 am  

Welcome to LAShTAL, Crowley666.

There are forum guidelines available on the site which you'll no doubt be reading. Look forward to hearing a bit about you in due course.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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michaelclarke18
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09/02/2012 7:07 pm  

The books are currently residing in the homeland of our prophet and will be sent via priority royal mail worldwide tracked and insured service.

I guess that means London.


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Shiva
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09/02/2012 7:55 pm  

Maybe London, but London is not a "homeland."
I would guess "Somewhere in Great Britain - maybe London."

I didn't notice a price. Don't the guidelines require a price on items for sale?

Say, what was that comment about "unwritten rules on a Thelemic site?"

Thelema does not mean "sell what you want" (in outrageously big, bold letters). See the OTO first degree for an explanation (by Saladin himself) of why one must give up certain elements in order to become familiar with Will (the tent-pole lecture).


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einDoppelganger
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10/02/2012 1:11 am  
"Shiva" wrote:
...why one must give up certain elements in order to become familiar with Will (the tent-pole lecture).

Ohh ohh!!
We get to dilate on Saladin's pole.

I think the OP should have his font privileges revoked.  This posting looks like a goddamn Typhonian Bake Sale flier!


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the_real_simon_iff
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10/02/2012 8:21 am  
"Shiva" wrote:
I didn't notice a price. Don't the guidelines require a price on items for sale?
"Crowley666" wrote:
II only want to sell as a set and am looking for offers in the region on £950 and I will post worldwide for free.

Since we can see the Ninth Arch alone for example for the same price somewhere on the web, it is a quite reasonable region for a price wish, I would say.

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Michael Staley
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10/02/2012 10:07 am  
"the_real_simon_iff" wrote:
Since we can see the Ninth Arch alone for example for the same price somewhere on the web, it is a quite reasonable region for a price wish, I would say.

I agree that it's a reasonable price for all nine volumes.

However, if someone is listing a copy of The Ninth Arch alone for the same or similar price, then I should imagine it will remain on their hands for some time to come.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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 Anonymous
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10/02/2012 11:38 am  

Lol,
93,
Apologies for the imposing fornt size. As you probably know by now I am new to this forum malarky and am still learning the buttons. When I posted the original posting, I couldnt see the change in font size when I was playing about in my little window - sorry to confuse everyone with technical jargon.
Hence the result was a post you could read from space.
Anyway, hello!
The books have now been reduced!! For a quick sale I have slashed the price to a mouth watering £895 (I will refrain from trying to highlight for dramatic effect) I will still post worldwide for free, recorded, tracked etc.

Hi Michael, We have spoken before via email. I purchased a number of books from Starfire last year, The nightside narratives and a few others. My name is Gary, I have been interested in, and collecting early Crowley books since 2001 and have recently made the transition from being an passive observer to an active participant.

I hope to learn from the more knowledgable members of the community and hope this site and forum can add to that knowledge and fellowship.


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Shiva
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10/02/2012 3:56 pm  

Sorry. I just re-read the original post and see that a suggested price of about $1500 was open for "offers."  Now a fixed price is in place.  Good.  Let us all say three "Hail Marys," one "Our Father" [A.C.], and six razor slahes from Liber III, and surely, World Peace will rain [er, rein][er, reign].


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lashtal
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10/02/2012 7:50 pm  
"Crowley666" wrote:
Thankyou for the warm welcome and telling off

You weren't 'told off' - a fellow member gave you a gentle nudge about absolutely routine netiquette.

"Crowley666" wrote:
Apologies, I was not aware that there were so many unwritten rules governing a thelemic site.

1: They're not unwritten. Membership of this site is dependent upon acceptance of the Guidelines.

2: This is not a Thelemic Web Site.

"Crowley666" wrote:
Do what thou wilt as long as no one objects is the whole of the law.

Noted.

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michaelclarke18
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11/02/2012 1:08 am  

However, if someone is listing a copy of The Ninth Arch alone for the same or similar price, then I should imagine it will remain on their hands for some time to come.

That's quite an interesting book, as 95% of the people who own it have probably never read it. And there are probably less that 0.0000000001% who will ever be able to make use of it.


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Michael Staley
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11/02/2012 2:03 am  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:
That's quite an interesting book, as 95% of the people who own it have probably never read it. And there are probably less that 0.0000000001% who will ever be able to make use of it.

Presumably you've conducted a survey or something similar, to state all this so confidently. I'd hazard a guess that there are plenty of people who "make use of it". Quite often, for instance, I go to a passage related to various numbers which crop up elsewhere, since Grant put in it much of the gematria which he accumulated over his lifetime, indexing it by the verse-numbers of OKBISh.

Quite often when reading a book, there are seeds planted that don't flower, let alone fruit, for years afterwards. That's a general thing, I think; it doesn't only apply to occult books.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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einDoppelganger
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11/02/2012 3:51 am  
"MichaelStaley" wrote:
Quite often when reading a book, there are seeds planted that don't flower, let alone fruit, for years afterwards. That's a general thing, I think; it doesn't only apply to occult books.

Egads! I know. The bane of my existence is when I want to revisit a reference to something I read in the past year and for the life of me I cannot recall where I came acrosa it.  I have great recall of the wording and sometimes the freakin' font but often the book escapes. me. I tend to read in thematic chunks which doesn't help. Last year I read about 6 Golden Dawn related books in a chunk and this year I have been Yod deep in the French occult revival.  I keep a journal now of books as I finish them transcribing salient passages so I can recall them for later use. I think this might be the *only* really good thing I can think of when it comes to E-readers. Sting searches.  (yes, I am irrationally dismissive of E-readers- cant help it)


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michaelclarke18
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11/02/2012 9:14 am  

I was visiting a friend of mine over xmas, and they showed me their copy of the Ninth Arch, I was impressed  with the mint, unread condition....and I wondered why. Most copies of this I see for sale are mint and unread.  Look at the condition of the items for sale above.

Please don't smack my legs too hard 😉


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Michael Staley
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11/02/2012 10:56 am  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:
I was visiting a friend of mine over xmas, and they showed me their copy of the Ninth Arch, I was impressed  with the mint, unread condition....and I wondered why. Most copies of this I see for sale are mint and unread.  Look at the condition of the items for sale above.

Please don't smack my legs too hard 😉

I wasn't smacking your legs at all; if that's your fantasy, I won't be obliging. There was no hostility in my post.

I don't doubt that there are some people who have a copy of The Ninth Arch which they haven't read.The reasons are likely myriad. For instance, it could just be an investment piece, as happens with a lot of other scarce books; or the owner could have it to complete their collection; or the owner might find it forbidding at present, but hopes for a time when he or she finds a way in.

For some, The Ninth Arch is the least-favourite of Grant's books and it leaves them cold. Others - and I'm in this camp - find it an enthralling volume, and in particular I'm captivated by OKBISh itself.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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 Anonymous
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11/02/2012 11:47 am  

I ordered and read The Ninth Arch when it first came out, and didn't like it all. I remember discussing this with you Michael, but am thinking perhaps now is the time I ought to try and dip in again!


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michaelclarke18
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11/02/2012 4:38 pm  

I actually like the Ninth Arch, and Against the Light very much. They go pretty well together, in terms of the ''reality mixed with fiction'' theme - which seems to be one of the key components. I like the constant references to the 'real' locations with significance for Grant including Candleston, Fustat, Limehouse, Chancery lane, Busche's Emporium etc

Anyone have any thoughts on the reality/fantasy oppositions in those books? Anyone think it all reality?


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Michael Staley
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11/02/2012 5:18 pm  
"michaelclarke18" wrote:
I actually like the Ninth Arch, and Against the Light very much. They go pretty well together, in terms of the ''reality mixed with fiction'' theme - which seems to be one of the key components. I like the constant references to the 'real' locations with significance for Grant including Candleston, Fustat, Limehouse, Chancery lane, Busche's Emporium etc

Anyone have any thoughts on the reality/fantasy oppositions in those books? Anyone think it all reality?

Against the Light is probably my favourite of all Grant's works. I must have read it a hunded times or more, but always come away with fresh insights; it's an incredibly deep book. I gave a talk on it towards the end of last year. All would have been well had I not read it through one more time prior to the talk. On that most recent reading, depths opened up that I had not seen before, insights that I found difficult to articulate in my talk. So I'm working it up into an article on Against the Light for the forthcoming issue of Starfire to be published at the end of this year.

Grant was very interested in Surrealist art, and it shows in his writing style, particularly in his later years. The inside front cover blurb he wrote for Snakewand is germane in my view:

These stories, and other tales in this series, were written in the wake of rituals performed over a period of seven years in New Isis Lodge. Many were the magicians and mediums who passed through the Lodge, and some of them feature in the series of novellas. Their mundane personalities may not have appeared unusual to casual observation, but when elongated and siderealised by the unique perspectives which their magical rôles created for them, they achieved an apotheosis, an epiphany. This extraordinary phenomenon demonstrated the heights and the depths which human nature is capable of scaling and of fathoming, in the delirious frenzy inspired by their art. These tales are likewise orientated to the other side of a reality rarely glimpsed outside a magically charged Circle.

In his Introduction to the 93 Publishing reprint of The Book of Pleasure in the early or mid 1970s, Grant remarked of Spare that he exalted the imagination above all other faculties, and I think this is true of Grant as well. Inspiration comes to us through the imagination, and is developed through our creativity. Thus imagination was important for Grant, as it is for all artists, scientists, poets, writers, etc.

It is of course the fusion of what we regard as "reality" with what we regard as "dream" which is particularly interesting here. Some would maintain that we rarely if ever leave dream; that what we regard as "waking" is in fact another level of dreaming. Against the Light, for instance, starts as a conventional occult tale, and then moves through a succession of dreams and dreams within dreams, becoming multi-layered. There is obviously a lot of autobiography in Against the Light, but sorting out the autobiography from the purely fictional is a treacherous matter.

Best wishes,

Michael.


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11/02/2012 7:16 pm  

Although I can understand how Ninth Arch could seem overwhelming and difficult to appreciate as a "page-turner," it is one of my favorite works by Grant-and one of the more important books in my library. It would make the "Top 10" of "occult books" which have deeply impacted me and function as an endless reservoir of insight. My own copy is rather banged up at this point as it IS a "book in use."

I also agree with the statements re: Against The Light. It isn't so much of a "book" as it is an experience. One doesn't simply read it-one revisits it, like a great work of film or music. A slightly different angle and the Light comes through to illumine a previously shadowed corner of consciousness. It reminds me of films by David Lynch or writings by Burroughs which, as Mick related, begin with an accessible "in-point" and then push the boat from the pier until one is far out in some distant sea where the "Logic of the Shore" no longer holds.

A hero goes on a journey and a stranger returns to town.  🙂


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 Anonymous
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14/02/2012 8:06 am  

93

Just to let everyone know the books have now sold to a member of this site.
I will be posting them today
Thankyou all for allowing me to use the forum
I will be making a donation to lashtal to say thanks and hope to get to know everyone over the course of time.

93 93/93


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