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grouchotrout
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The Unknown God: WT Smith and the Thelemites

by Martin P. Starr

Teitan Press, very good condition, hardback with dust jacket 

Lowest listing I can find is on Amazon for $780. Asking for $666, obo 


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the_real_simon_iff
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While you can find one slightly cheaper on abebooks, this is crazy...


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Shiva
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Posted by: @the_real_simon_iff

abebooks

Yeah, only $98 at Abe's (paperback). I tended to confuse "The Unknown God" (Starr) with "The Hidden God" (Grant). But I've learned the difference, even if both are quite good.


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grouchotrout
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I'm assuming you're both referring to Grant's "The Hidden God" being the $98 paperback?

To clarify, I'm selling my copy of Starr's "The Unknown God" in hardback.

PS, How am I just now discovering Abe Books?


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Abebooks seems to have two of the Starr book, one in Australia for $598, and one in Germany for $842.


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Posted by: @ignant666

Abebooks seems to have two of the Starr book, one in Australia for $598, and one in Germany for $842.

Yes, I was talking about the slightly cheaper book on abebooks. That's why I called it crazy. The Hidden God has just been newly released todey, you can have it for 30 Euros in Hardback, 20 in Softback. I am afraid you won't find someone for your 666 bucks wish. The abebooks's offers are older than four years. The last Weiser offer (which is usually quite reasonable) isn't visible anmore, maybe you wait for the next Weiser thing and then rethink, because by then you usually have a reasonable price. I have two copies of that book and I would never ever charge more than 300 for it - while feeling somewhat guilty at the same time. But I don't sell right now.

 


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Shiva
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Posted by: @grouchotrout

To clarify, I'm selling my copy of Starr's "The Unknown God" in hardback.

Yes, that's the one. Just go to Abe's ans search for the (your) title. I found it among a row of 5 books toward the bottom of the page. $98+ - paperback.

 


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bgruagach
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Another tip for locating used and hard to find books: https://www.addall.com/used/

I use it all the time and have been able to buy some real treasures through it.  It includes Abebooks results along with lots of other resellers.


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Shiva
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have been able to buy some real treasures through it.

Yes, this looks like a comprehensive source. When I searched it for Author: "Frater Shiva," I found a long list of my books, mostly ranging from $119 to over $400. Each. Each of which is available new (new) at Lulu in the range of $22 to $55. I continue to be amazed at how the used book market works (expensively).


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Shiva
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The time-sword edit cut off my long explanation about high "asking" prices, and my solution. Sell it at auction on eBay (set a minimum bid price, so you do not lose your original investment - let the Universe decide the profit - or not). Or offer it to Weiser Antiquarian, who usually pays pretty well.


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It's a great book, solidly researched and well written, a mine of information. From time to time there are rumours of a second edition, which would be good.


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bgruagach
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Posted by: @shiva
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have been able to buy some real treasures through it.

Yes, this looks like a comprehensive source. When I searched it for Author: "Frater Shiva," I found a long list of my books, mostly ranging from $119 to over $400. Each. Each of which is available new (new) at Lulu in the range of $22 to $55. I continue to be amazed at how the used book market works (expensively).

If you search for new and in-print books on the "used" market, especially for niche occult texts, you will find ridiculously priced copies for sale.  That is common on Amazon, too.  They're scammers who usually don't actually have that book in stock -- if they get a sucker to actually buy from them, they will then order from the publisher and forward the book on to their gullible customer for a tidy profit.

If you search for out-of-print books though and keep an eye on the results (patience is a virtue!) you will frequently be rewarded with good deals.  For example, doing a search for author=Aleister Crowley in used books turns up paperback copies of various titles by Crowley for as little as US$2.50.  Great for people getting started in reading his work!


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Shiva
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Posted by: @bgruagach

if they get a sucker to actually buy from them, they will then order from the publisher and forward the book on to their gullible customer for a tidy profit.

Yes. We have identified and discussed this particular black-magical trick, and everybody here knows all about it ... except for those who forgot about it or those who didn't really get it in the first place.

Anyway, this thread is about Groucho's Unknown God, offered for $666 obo. The obo is important as it is the opposite of a normal auction, whereby people attempt to go down in price.

So, after all this discussion (dialectic?), the bottom line is that Anyone can do their own research (using the tools mentioned in the dialectical multilogue), and if they want this book in the first edition, they can offer Groucho their bo (best offer), and he will probably choose the highest bo.


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