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 Anonymous
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23/07/2020 5:36 pm  

@mzezz

Our own School unites the ruby red of Blood with the gold of the Sun

- MWT

There was a thread where this elaborated upon for my own work that you might be interested in. My opinion has changed on a few details which don't need to be addressed here unless you want to talk about it.

It was in response to a post by a woman on LAShTAL. And you may be interested in page 7 of the same topic.

https://www.lashtal.com/forums/stuff/examples-of-the-black-lodge/paged/8/#post-101112

 

https://www.lashtal.com/forums/stuff/examples-of-the-black-lodge/paged/7/#post-101053


hadgigegenraum
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24/07/2020 7:13 pm  

@ignant666

An open invitation to come visit the 'Hollows' ...if one so dares, considering some of your descriptions I will affirm that indeed things might seem strange, like pockets of sixties east village types ensconced in some feudal time warps erstwhile known as the perpetual flashback you have nothing to worry about being able to brandish a professional title of nobility, Esquire, JD, then respect will be afforded as fast as your own flashbacks while roaming the NwhyC miked up yes might be able to kick ass with boots before martins were a fashion statement rip off of good old american leather and hard rubber for waffling faces as the case may be and a more than magical weapon fast to calf for be it the highlands or lowlands the aura will so display the requisite impressions....that you are safe around here...to which if the green vapors run out, no worries about that you will be seeing green, smelling green, shitting green as the verdant lens does seem to have its effect at least until stick season grays so please my suggestions is Lamas, of early August can be exquisite, for the night skies, AU Nuit, note her shade upon the Stele, but all colors do come through with plenty of purples beyond purples and why of course the leaf peepers do come out, and money has to be made off of tourists seeing reds and ourangeds there is a certain alchemy such that the winter snows november till may might well make for a certain insatiable fever only broken by ski addictions, never left in the attic, or parousing the Libers to so effectuate the invisible house for here at six to the third power politics is neither red nor blue, but green is the color if I might quote a pink refrain and I do have enough parlor pink as my aunt in Poughkie used to say such that if Bernie had listened to me and the missus he would have been president but at least this site has not been censored and frankly why the fuck am i talking about politics at all, for I do have the book on Crowley called the Temptation of Politics by Parsi which I have skimmed and this is not my introduction thread @mzezz yes welcome some of us like to play with synchronicities as well how ever the word is spelled to which if you ever finish Liber L vel Legis or is it Liber AL vel Legis or The Book Of The Law which I can't say I have ever finished reading either round and round for many a year, try it on 8th 9th and 10th of April, just the handwritten gem, and then try it on the First, Second and Third, of the month of fools and compare the two, do a futile tarot reading or two and please get back to us on what you might grok from the experience if you dare return, or realize already long ago that silence is the balm...there is a gesture for period a silent exclamation and fairly important which is the cue or Q for the resident @Shiva to pipe in perhaps...or return the gesture more appropriately!

93  93/93

HG


Jamie J Barter
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24/07/2020 7:51 pm  

Would it be possible to break your (often otherwise interesting) long paragraphs up into several shorter ones, HG, to make it easier on the eyes for all?  Also, the occasional sentence break and bit of punctuation might also help - this isn't Penelope,* after all!

N Joy

(* Ulysses literary reference, for those in the kno)


ignant666
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24/07/2020 7:57 pm  

Appreciate the fraternal invite, and will be seeing you next year, in the warm time, if we live. I love Vermont, and really the cannibalism is more and more under control these days. I'll wear the Danners, not the Docs- i'm hep to the 802 fashion code. And Docs are city boots anyway, ill-suited to the woods.

Went to college there in the '70s until they threw me out, spent 9 months there in 2016 doing a heroin study for the state, so i'm confident of my safety (even in the Northeast Kingdom, the only place where the local junkies had the balls to rob the gangsta heroin dealers from NYC (with deer rifles, natch)).

And Jamie, there is punctuation, and you don't put paragraph breaks in the middle of a sentence, after all. While one senses that your guess about being a Joyce fan is not a million miles from the truth, as i said before, there is something in the water in Vermont. See also my remarks about the unique gene pool. And their, um, unusual diet. Comrade HG is just a regular guy up there, they're just Iike that. Not all the exact way he is, but... not as others.


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24/07/2020 8:43 pm  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

Would it be possible to break your (often otherwise interesting) long paragraphs up into several shorter ones

I believe he can be led to the [carriage return][Enter] style of Frater Tiger, but he can't be made to drink from a water bottle.

Posted by: @ignant666

there is something in the water in Vermont. See also ...

... see also CIA Projects involving reservoirs and water towers.


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24/07/2020 8:44 pm  
Posted by: @djedi

Maybe something like a Perdurabo Society, which would give an exclusive platform to the discussion of Crowleyan/Thelemic magical theory and practice, would be a nice alternative, filtering the people who only get into Crowley for his drug abuse and sexual indiscretions. But a libertine and counter-cultural moderation, for whom the only bannable offense would be impoliteness (as I think politeness is the only thing a healthy forum needs), is necessary to the endeavor, as this has to do with the luminous evolution of man, and not the opining of man as a political animal.

Under construction.

There may be a couple more Guidelines for legal and managing smooth brain behavior. They shouldn't be an issue at all if membership is properly filtered. Strict pre-approval process.


ignant666
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24/07/2020 9:14 pm  
Posted by: @xon

managing smooth brain behavior

"Smooth brain" indeed. See also. Revealing.


 Anonymous
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24/07/2020 9:22 pm  

Yup.

And there's already a 🐷nant so no getting in on the singular for you.


christibrany
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24/07/2020 9:26 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

as i said before, there is something in the water in Vermont.

I can vouch for this. My friend from grad school is from Burlington.  He is super intelligent but very..odd..kind of like a cross between an alien/bug/human.  And he studies bugs and trees/maps for a living...bugshit..bugout.. yes.. love the guy. 


ignant666
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24/07/2020 9:28 pm  
Posted by: @xon

no getting in on the singular for you.

An attempt to communicate with you on your own level.

 


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24/07/2020 9:32 pm  
Posted by: @xon

They shouldn't be an issue at all if membership is properly filtered. Strict pre-approval process.

Read as 'I am only accepting people that agree with me and my Attainment' 

Gotcha. 

Cancel culture. 


 Anonymous
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24/07/2020 9:46 pm  

That's not it at all, Chris.


ignant666
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24/07/2020 9:55 pm  

Which are the people here who do not "agree with [you] and [your] 'Attainment'" who you will invite to join your new NO MEANIES ALLOWED CLUB, again?

Why bother to deny the obvious? You are tired of not being treated with the reverence due one of your exalted degree.


 Anonymous
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24/07/2020 10:02 pm  

Your squealing is too distracting. You're always trying to relitigate things after they've already been discussed. You, chris, dom, all constantly derail threads with your issues regarding rather than discuss them in the appropriate places. All your questions and commentary in the transmission thread regarding V'ger and the Grue should be in the Starseed thread. Any questions about Comet NEOWISE should be in the Satanism is not a Myth thread. Instead you derail another thread(transmission texts) after just a brief friendly exchange I had with another member that only mentioned the subject.

This can't go on.

All this occult discussion has to go elsewhere in the current circumstances.  You and your clique are incapable of managing your behavior when this subject related to the occult is discussed.


ignant666
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24/07/2020 10:06 pm  

Wait, so when your giant ego, and many feuds, splatters your crap all over every thread, and others respond with derision, this is our fault for responding?

Please. Get your new forum going ASAP, and don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.


 Anonymous
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24/07/2020 10:09 pm  

Nope, someone claimed that I said that I 'manifested the comet' over on the transmission texts thread and that someone else might take issue with it.

My comments regarding the matter over there was only to clarify things with that user and that was all.

Your clique took that as an opportunity to hijack the thread.


ignant666
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24/07/2020 10:16 pm  
Posted by: @xon

Your clique

aka "everyone on the forum except you"


 Anonymous
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24/07/2020 10:17 pm  

"everyone"


 Anonymous
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24/07/2020 11:07 pm  
Posted by: @kidneyhawk

And why do you feel it is a topic of interest to our present collection of active Lashtalians? 

It's obviously not. At least, not with those making their voices known, aside from @djedi.

Posted by: @kidneyhawk

Perhaps....what is your interest?

My interest has partly to do with understanding better what sort of effect it was meant to have on those it interacted with it. What happened on the creator side. I've heard one story. That was quite a take on events. I believe it. Truly. It's not that I need confirmation. It's gotten way past that. I'm willing to share my experiences with it. There's Balance that needs to be addressed.

With a different forum the discussion can happen there without the distress to others. There's one being set up for the purpose, if you can offer a better option that is good, too.


ignant666
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24/07/2020 11:24 pm  
Posted by: @xon

It's obviously not.

Why would you say this? Threads discussing "V'ger" and "Grues" have been quite lively, and have attracted interest from regulars and drawn folks in who seldom post.

This is a topic of great interest to us.

Can't wait for what @kidneyhawk has to say. And hope things are looking up, dude.


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24/07/2020 11:46 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666

Can't wait for what kidneyhawk has to say

I doubt that. And I do feel rude having even engaged with the off-topic topic when I should have already extended a warm welcome to mrezz upon boarding the Good Ship Lashtal.

It's a "show that never ends.
We're so glad you could attend!
Come inside! Come inside!"

 


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 dom
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24/07/2020 11:54 pm  
Posted by: @ignant666
Posted by: @xon

managing smooth brain behavior

"Smooth brain" indeed. See also. Revealing.

Keeps on getting better.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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24/07/2020 11:58 pm  
Posted by: @xon

Your squealing is too distracting. You're always trying to relitigate things after they've already been discussed. You, chris, dom, all constantly derail threads with your issues regarding rather than discuss them in the appropriate places. All your questions and commentary in the transmission thread regarding V'ger and the Grue should be in the Starseed thread. Any questions about Comet NEOWISE should be in the Satanism is not a Myth thread. Instead you derail another thread(transmission texts) after just a brief friendly exchange I had with another member that only mentioned the subject.

This can't go on.

All this occult discussion has to go elsewhere in the current circumstances.  You and your clique are incapable of managing your behavior when this subject related to the occult is discussed.

Handled like a true exalted Great Adept and not like a whining child.  Well done..... and yet again an Avatar change.       

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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25/07/2020 12:27 am  
Posted by: @shiva

I believe he [HG] can be led to the [carriage return][Enter] style of Frater Tiger

What a choice!  From one extreme end of the spectrum to another: between a rock and a hard place... the devil and the deep blue sea... the reef of Scylla and the whirlpool of Charybdis... Is there no help or hope for a settlement to be made in a "Goldilocks" zone somewhere in the middle? 

Posted by: @shiva

but he can't be made to drink from a water bottle.

Yes, some things are just altogether too much to ask for...

N Joy


hadgigegenraum
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25/07/2020 1:07 am  

@jamiejbarter

Paragraphs as thou wilt and understood, for we do not want Conquest to go the way of James Joyce eyesight which brings me to ponder if AC ever wore spectacles, I see Ignant has some new ones...perhaps there is a photograph somewhere with the Beast in readers but I doubt it...

I find it interesting to note that Robert Anton Wilson was quite a Bloomsdayer and woke waker to which his collection Coincidences was a quite profound series of explorations  for me into some of the inner workings of those linguistic tests upon tests.... My real introduction to Joyce came through Norman O. Brown's Closing Time, which is really an important part of the pantheon in that a real skeleton key is given by way of exploring the role, in a poetic way, all the way, of Giambatista Vico's work The New Science.

I believe it perhaps relevant to mention Vico's work, in a forum on Aleister Crowley, and by way of synchronous introductions, in that Vico incorporates an important meta-historical framework with which to understand human history, that in a way corresponds to the notion of Aeons, perhaps, but where major shifts in human consciousness corresponds the state of human language, where the general format is cyclical, starting from inspired speech as from Gods, pure prophetic pronunciations, to then dropping down to heroic kingly speech, then down to a more proletariate vernaculars until there is a full breakdown into a full collapse of language into a form of chaos, that then gives birth to a renewal of prophetic speech....

This is at least my little paraphrase of that, to which I think it interesting in such a context that Crowley would go from his rather formal poetry stage into something that certainly stood in stark contrast to  transcendent prophetic offering of Liber L and then the other Class A writings. I think that this shift was perhaps primed by the monstrous output evidenced by the Collected Works, which is so hard to read that the mind quickly turns to mush of a thousand voluptuous sunsets kissing pouting virgins upon the bubbling waves of enraptured splendor, blah blah blah.... ever trying until the damn burst...

Now with this side diversion from the main fray,  of this thread, I see @Ignant666 has changed his avatar, speaking of spectacles, while the flies buzzing about want not  a 'Death Match Nonagon' but a nice safe place which is not very Thelemic is it!

And do not dare request proper grammar and syntax, for I am sure even a good proof read might be in store for this quick paragraphed jot, with semblance of punctuation, but suffice to say we might revisit Bloomsday some day in light of these days of politically correct speech as I have a funny story of two...Hey, by the way,  did Crowley ever swear in print?

93

HG

 

 


ignant666
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25/07/2020 1:12 am  

Chorozonic Frenzy Alert:  @xon is on his second new avatar today, he has now replaced the animal-abuse image of a vegan trying to force a cat to eat spinach with a Rosicrucian cross. Afraid of the RSPCA or whatever they have in Vancouver no doubt. They already have a file on him after the "crow incident."

Updates as the news develops.

Posted by: @hadgigegenraum

I see has changed his avatar, speaking of spectacles,

And i did yesterday, for the first time since i put the photo after i retired. i did so after i  was called "ugly" by a Spaniard, and in recognition that i have been hair-farming with great success since the earlier pic. I attempted to look deranged, and i believe did so, but it is too dim, which i may address. And yes i do have new(-ish) glasses.


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25/07/2020 1:30 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Chorozonic Frenzy Alert: 

is on his second new avatar today, he has now replaced the animal-abuse image of a vegan trying to force a cat to eat spinach with a Rosicrucian cross. Afraid of the RSPCA or whatever they have in Vancouver no doubt. They already have a file on him after the "crow incident."

Updates as the news develops.

Oof. Might want to check on your source on that. And you should check with the person you're making claims about before making those claims.

For me that was dinner cat and like the cat I was watching all y'all crazies today looking like these women.

And what's happening to you and the others might only get worse.

 

 


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25/07/2020 2:09 am  
Posted by: @jamiejbarter

Is there no help or hope for a settlement to be made in a "Goldilocks" zone somewhere in the middle? 

The Goldilocks Format is drilled/embedded/crammed/cemented in place starting with First Grade (age 6). This Format is polished by academicians for several years. After escaping from the Grimoire Nazis, some folks tend to develop their own aberration or pestilence protocol.

Alas. We cannot grab them and shake them 'til they scribble properly ... due to Internet Restrictions.

 


ignant666
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25/07/2020 2:20 am  

Why would i "check with you" before commenting about a photo that looks like a pic of some psycho trying to make a cat eat some kind of greens, maybe it's bok choy, not spinach, fine?

 


ignant666
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25/07/2020 2:43 am  

And hoping you are feeling good about your decision to mock those who think you are a big bag of hot air (who are all men) by comparing us to "these women".

Not the first time you have used images of women in negative framings to mock men on this forum.You seem to cast mockery in female terms quite often.

Is it a bad thing, in your tiny mind, to be like a woman? Maybe, @xon, save your misogyny for somewhere that's not the intro thread of a new female poster?


 Anonymous
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25/07/2020 2:53 am  
Posted by: @kidneyhawk

I doubt that.

I only know a condensed version of what V'ger was originally meant to do and that was a lot, and if they knew what you know, even what I know about OG V'ger, they'd likely be sorely distressed.

That condensed version is in reference to the conversation that took place in November 2008. It was very forthright.

Posted by: @kidneyhawk

mrezz

mzezz. Only mentioning because is woman. She recognizes the masc energy people pick up on.

Posted by: @kidneyhawk

the Good Ship Lashtal.

Currently like it's in the Tempest.

We can move our conversation over to the Starseed Thread to try to help give mzezz her thread back. Let me know if you want to chat, on the new forum or if you have a better suggestion for consideration.


ignant666
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25/07/2020 2:58 am  

Hey, i have an idea- how about you take this discussion you are trying to start with the guy who did the art on which you have based this elaborate delusion to a new V'ger thread?

Since V'ger has no more to do with Leary's Starseed Transmissions than it does to this woman's intro thread.


 Anonymous
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25/07/2020 3:01 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Hey, i have an idea- how about you take this discussion you are trying to start with the guy who did the art you have based this elaborate delusion to a new V'ger thread?

As already mentioned it's not going to happen here.

Stop derailing this thread. If you have anything more to say about this subject bring it up in the Starseed Thread.


ignant666
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25/07/2020 3:07 am  
Posted by: @xon

Stop derailing this thread.

 

Wait, i am the one derailing this thread by suggesting you stop posting misogynist images in her intro thread, and that you should take your off-topic, narcissistic discussion to a thread about that topic?

Good to know.

Posted by: @xon

If you have anything more to say about this subject bring it up in the Starseed Thread.

"V'ger" has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of that thread, which is about Tim Leary's Starseed Transmissions.

I will make a thread for you.


 Anonymous
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25/07/2020 3:11 am  

LOL. that's your stupid take, pignant. Not the reality. Just like you pointing and screeching "Choronzon!" in the same manner as that woman in the pic.

mzezz asked about The Grue and Egregores.

Anyhow, I hope you enjoyed this show @mzezz. That lvl 1 attunement has come in very handy.


ignant666
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25/07/2020 3:14 am  

Please stop derailing this woman's thread with your OT ego-babble, and take this to the new thread i made just for you:

https://www.lashtal.com/forums/stuff/vger-grue-dead-cow-comet-neowise-xons-74-work-thread/


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25/07/2020 3:16 am  
Posted by: @ignant666

Please stop derailing this woman's thread

Posted by: @xon

mzezz asked about The Grue and Egregores.

 

Posted by: @ignant666

this to the new thread i made just for you:

 

That's all yours I'm under no obligation to participate.

Bye Felicia.


ignant666
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25/07/2020 3:19 am  
Posted by: @xon

Bye Felicia.

You really have a hard time expressing disdain without calling someone somehow female, don't you?

Maybe stop being a misogynist freak in this thread?


ignant666
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25/07/2020 3:21 am  
Posted by: @xon

I'm under no obligation to participate.

Of course not, as long as you stop posting incessantly about those topics in literally every other thread, fine.


Shiva
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25/07/2020 3:42 am  

[sigh]

Please wait a reasonable period of time before checking to see if the coast is clear.

Threat Level reduced from Act 5 to Stage 4.


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25/07/2020 8:18 am  

"Apols to @mzezz for sitting on her couch arguing til all hours" 

Heh - no worries, @ignant666  

@xon - ah, the Northern Cross...sadly, am in the city where the stars aren't so bright, and my trip to the countryside curtailed for now (where I love to raise early to watch the stars move into sunrise).

@kidneyhawk - thanks for the welcome 🙂

If I've missed any direct refs to me - apologies, it seems my intro thread has got a little 'frantic', although strangely comforting to see all the swords drawn - so to speak - my only other forum is very similar, so I feel quite at home among the arguing (and at least lots of refs are being thrown up for me to investigate!)


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25/07/2020 8:42 am  
Posted by: @mzezz

am in the city where the stars aren't so bright,

It's just dark enough to see Berenice's Hair here.


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25/07/2020 10:10 am  
Posted by: @xon

LOL. that's your stupid take, pignant.

For goodness sake, @xon - enough!

This completely derailed tread is locked as will your account be if you don't grow up.

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