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Dear LAShTAL members,

It is with great pleasure that I'm announcing the release of Thelemic Time Server v2 into public beta testing. New TTS is work of one cool guy called Clay Fouts. I just helped with initial testing and made the whole LAShTAL setup. New TTS is way cooler than what we're using right now. The most important thing for me - no more PHP. TTS is using Era Legis module written in Perl.

Further, we have moved completely to plain text which allows anyone using TTS on their website to do complete formatting independent of what we send as a result.

TTS v2 can be found here: http://date.lashtal.com/ It is a very simple HOWTO page. If you need any further help please do contact us. Our TTS is running on the following URL: http://date.lashtal.com/date/

In order to see any date in future or in the past just feed URL with the desired date: http://date.lashtal.com/date/2013-03-20 In order to see this same result in PNG format use: http://date.lashtal.com/date/2013-03-20?format=png

The plan is to make a more user friendly page that will let you see past and future dates as well convert Thelemic dates into vulgar ones. Android and iPhone apps are planned too.

Please, try it, test it, break it... we need to know if there are nay bugs left before removing "BETA" from TTS.

This is one of very few things that are left on TODO list before we can say that LAShTAL is completely free of the old code.

Your friendly system administrator,
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Thank you so much, eol and Clay, for all your hard work!

A wonderful addition/upgrade to LAShTAL.COM...

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TTS will be down for some 30 min. I have detected some small issues and would like to fix them right away. πŸ™‚


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Back online.


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William Thirteen
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played around with TTSv2 a little this evening.Β  A very elegant and useful implementation! thank you both for the hard work and handy documentation. One last question - which common fonts have support for the zodiacal symbols?


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"WilliamThirteen" wrote:
One last question - which common fonts have support for the zodiacal symbols?

Pretty much all standard web font families. If you happen to run into one that doesn't work let us know so that we can add that info to documentation. πŸ˜‰


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I haven't tested it or seen the code, so I can't speak to the accuracy of the astrological calculations (I assume you've made use of the tables I produced for v1), but there are some issues with the use of Latin. Assuming you used my Latin for the zodiacal signs, nevertheless the term "Γ¦rΓ¦" is in the wrong case (it should be "Γ¦ra" or "Γ¦rā"), and more importantly "[Γ¦ra] legis" is a non-Crowleyan invention which might please some, but which would require sanction by at least an Adeptus Exemptus πŸ˜‰

I do hope the rest of the Latin hasn't been "corrected"!

– Ian

P.S. I accidentally posted this using a former LAShTAL test account.
P.P.S. Are there any plans to update the Bibliographica Thelemica at any stage?


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Good to see you here again, Ian.

I can't comment on the Latin but I can confirm that work is ongoing on the Bibliographia. It will return to LAShTAL in a completely new version in due course.

Thanks again for all your excellent work on LAShTAL, keeping the site safe and secure while Postnuke made itself obsolete!

Best wishes...

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Hi Paul,

It's been fun to pop in now and again to see how things are progressing. I know Eol has done a huge amount of work on the site, but it's also great to see other folks like Mr. Fouts spending time improving things like the Time Server – and in a geeky way it's also nice to see Unicode astrological symbols being used in array assignments, as in the Perl module.

I look forward to seeing the Bibliography surfacing again in future. My only regret, when I was writing the original version, was that when Lutz was one of our beta testers he added an entry entitled "Leah Sings the Beach Boys" which got deleted by mistake... and I've always wondered whether Leah ever actually sang the Beach Boys, and if that album exists. I never got an answer.

Anyways, the site's looking good... just don't listen to those Typhonian boys, they'll lead you astray!

Best wishes,
Ian


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Hi Ian,

Good to see you. πŸ™‚ We haven't used anything of the old code. Era Legis was written from scratch in Perl. Thanks for your feedback regarding EL That's why I've put it in BETA mode. πŸ™‚ We are in process of gathering bug list and we'll have them fixed soon. Bibliography will be back in due time - I'm finding the best way to use the old data and integrate it into new site. πŸ™‚

Cheers...


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William Thirteen
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"eol" wrote:
Pretty much all standard web font families. If you happen to run into one that doesn't work let us know so that we can add that info to documentation. πŸ˜‰

i was using Futura (i'm addicted to it), but it was custom CSS on a Typepad theme so there may have been other variables i couldn't control...


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Hi eol,

Crowley's dating system isn't the most sensible, but I suppose if one accepts his claims then one has to work with the tools available; though I can only think it must have been difficult in his days to know the precise position of Luna without a crib. Perhaps that's what he did, but of course it's a heck of a lot easier these days. I just wonder if people nowadays know about the underlying physical observations and predictive computations.

It reminds me of an old joke.

A group of Microsoft .NET programmers and a group of Java programmers are going on a train to an expo. The MS programmers buy a ticket each, and then watch as the Java programmers proceed to buy one ticket between them.

The MS programmers are intrigued, and when they get on the train they watch the Java programmers to see what happens when the guard comes to check the tickets. Before the guard comes, the Java guys all cram into the toilet. The guard knocks on the door and asks for the ticket. The guard takes it from under the door and slides it back.

The MS programmers are all impressed, so on the way back they only buy only one ticket between them, only to watch the Java folks get on the train without buying a ticket at all.

When they get on the train, the MS people cram into the toilet, just like they saw the Java folks do on the earlier journey. The Java programmers then knock on the door, and say "Ticket please". The MS programmers slide the ticket under the door, as they saw the Java programmers do earlier.

"Thank you", they say. "You steal our methods, but you don't understand them."

Good job we don't need a sextant these days!

Best wishes,

Ian


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William Thirteen
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been thinking about this off and on - the utility of the Thelemic Calendar for time measurement. The sun languishes in each sign for approximately thirty days and the moon, while hurrying upon her appointed rounds much quicker, is still in each sign longer than twenty four hours. Of course, the Gregorian calendar isn't much better these days given our technical needs.Β  As a network mensch, when i think timestamping, i think Unix time.Β  So running the numbers i find that 20.March.1904 begins at -2076019200 Unix time...Β  Who wants to write the RFC?


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Ian, I'd be most grateful for fixes to the Latin. I cribbed what's there currently as best I could from the original TTS implementation, but having no formal Latin knowledge I would be surprised if I didn't misunderstand something. You're welcome to use Github's pull request facility if you're inclined to implement directly or just send me the changes. In the latter case, please make it idiot-proof, like "change 'æræ' to 'æra' if option 'show-deg' is true."

And, yes, though I make no claims of Exempt-ship, the label "æræ legis" is my own invented phrasing. "New Aeon" make sense while it's, well, "new," but in the long term people will have shift that title so they don't confuse it with the next new aeon when it comes along. At the same time each aeon seems to have its own notion of its own "law," so perhaps "legis" isn't a much better label.


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"Obelos" wrote:
And, yes, though I make no claims of Exempt-ship, the label "æræ legis" is my own invented phrasing. "New Aeon" make sense while it's, well, "new," but in the long term people will have shift that title so they don't confuse it with the next new aeon when it comes along. At the same time each aeon seems to have its own notion of its own "law," so perhaps "legis" isn't a much better label.

Indeed. Just as the word, "Torah" means, 'instruction, teaching', and sometimes 'law', making the Torah the "book of the law", so too do Thelemites have a book by the same name, using a different language.

These two aren't exclusive cases, either. But it's off-topic.


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