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 Anonymous
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11/12/2011 7:01 am  

very basick question here.for a planetary working-which do you personally use when choosing say a color or a perfume,etc.the sephiroth attributions for that planet,or the paths.for instance luna is the 9th sephiroth and the 13th path,would you use the king scale of color for both?perfumes would you mix jasmine and camphor?


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Azidonis
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11/12/2011 9:02 am  

In all possible politeness, it's what works for you that counts. Perform the Experiments.


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kidneyhawk
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11/12/2011 4:11 pm  

I agree with Azidonis. I'd also like to add that when I first began work with the correspondences, 777 etc I approached it as something of THE way to symbolize. I wanted all elements to be "correct" with some worry that I might "mess it up." I spent MUCH time puzzling over contradictory Tarot correspondences (which can vary radically from deck to deck-and school to school) and found myself in something of the occult version of bickering theologies. I learned a LOT through this process but would ultimately arrive at the simple approach suggested by Az. 777 is a GUIDE, an initial set up. Yes, its based on a LOAD of investigation stretching into ancient times (and AC gives a lot of his justifications for the "line-ups" in the commentary section of 777) but it's not meant to be "doctrine." Hence, new tables are constantly popping up to fit into the basic schema of 777 (such as lists of Lovecraftian entities and so forth). Ultimately our experience dictates the content of those slots. In this sense, working with 777 becomes a way of building a bridge between what we work with as universal and personal knowledge-experience. This itself will inaugurate initiations beyond the given goals of precision crafted rituals.


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 Anonymous
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11/12/2011 8:55 pm  

This is good, sound and solid advice by Az and Kyle!

I'd recommend that people should develop their own set of correspondences before even glancing at 777, and simply work with developing a set that corresponds to the Thoth Tarot.

There are so many things that cause changes in consciousness and all of them can be attributed to the tarot (which in turn is attributed to the TOL).  The light changes colour throughout the day and that effects consciousness and mood.  Bodily Sacraments, the Weather, Drugs, Food, Scent, Sound, Touch, the Language of Movement and Dance;  all have an effect upon consciousness, but - in one person they may harmonise with something in their nature and in yet another they may aggravate.  So - although you may come to similar conclusions about the correspondences of a substance with a card, the point of making your own set of correspondences is to discover the wheel upon which your own universe revolves.

Know thyself!  That's what it's all about.  🙂     


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12/12/2011 6:52 am  

As the old Aboriginal master said in his book Boomerangs Without Spears...'My Koala is not your Koala'. ::)


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 Anonymous
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12/12/2011 7:28 am  

.its all becomming a little clearer to me as i see often associations are similar based on ruling planets and elements,and i understand things will not be exactly the same for everyone,but for a beg-inner the associations can seem overwhelming,so why are the planets represented twice.??to confuse splunkers like me i guess!.so,just curious,hypotheticlly,if jupiter was the objective,would you guys personally use a perfume like cedar(line 4 777),or hyssop(line 21)??.this reminds me of my qabala question a few weeks ago(teth or tau,kaph or quoph,vvau or ayin,etc),where people similarly said what works best for you is what you should go with,but then one can almost force any number depending !!!i admit i am a SLOW learner and i give thanks for all of your patience.i


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Azidonis
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12/12/2011 8:15 am  
"bsbob" wrote:
hypotheticlly,if jupiter was the objective,would you guys personally use a perfume like cedar(line 4 777),or hyssop(line 21)??

Well, if you were doing said operation, you would look at more than just that. The natures of the sephiroth and the paths can be quite distinguishable from one another. So you have to look for other things, if you don't see the correspondence at first. For instance, you could note that the four suits of the tarot (wands, cups, sword, pentacles) are placed on the individual sephira, while the trumps are attributed to the connecting paths. Being familiar with such attributions can help you determine which column to use.

If a strict planetary working, the decision between line 4 and line 21 might be a little easier, as you might want to try line 4 first (see any planetary magick grimoire).

But it's really up to you, to experiment on your own, and figure out what works best for you. 777 is just a list of ingredients. How we mix those ingredients is part of the Great Work for each of us.


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 Anonymous
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12/12/2011 8:20 am  

Well - personally - I'd use Juniper for Jupiter, because the Juniper berry is a kingly purple - befitting Jupiter, but also because the oil has anti inflammatory properties, is a diuretic and promotes kidney filtration - so it helps to keep a proper balance of fire and water in the body when that's went out of wack.

For the air element corresponding with Jupiter, I'd choose Jasmine, as the first thing I do when I smell it is to expand my lungs to inhale great wafts of the stuff and it really is an expansive (and expensive) scent; traditionally fit for royalty.

My own table of correspondences grew from my knowledge of the plants and their savours - a study which I particularly enjoy.  🙂 

 
     


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