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djedi
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22/06/2020 3:59 pm  

Do you like puzzles? Late last night I happened upon some AMORC materials up for sale at Josef Lebovic Gallery

CL194 137 1
CL194 137 3
CL194 137 2

The third chart is the one I'm trying to figure out. Reason leads me to believe that it's a chord wheel, but I'm stumped as to what titillating and surely cosmist information goes along with it. If anyone has an image of (or at least has seen) an English version, or can translate it to put my inquiring mind at ease, please don't hesitate to inform me.

The second is half of a much more well-known AMORC chart,

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22/06/2020 5:38 pm  

Not to digress from the object of this thread, but I can confirm for the curious that the 'Musical Keyboard with Relation to Colors' is in keeping with Allan Bennett's work in the musical qabalah.


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22/06/2020 5:55 pm  
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Do you like puzzles?

Sorry, but I'm not in this league.

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the 'Musical Keyboard with Relation to Colors' is in keeping with Allan Bennett's work in the musical qabalah.

Manly P. Hall made regular reference to the fact that color = tone.

 


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22/06/2020 5:55 pm  

The third chart is very simple. It is to explain the group system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4SuR8hTGMI


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22/06/2020 6:45 pm  
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Manly P. Hall made regular reference to the fact that color = tone.

An early exploration of what would become the musical qabalah can be found in the third chapter of Nicomachus of Gerasa's Manual of Harmonics, wherein the Pythagorean genius demonstrates the notes of the heptachord were named for the epochai of the seven planets.

The Pythagoreans were known to perform miracles by playing special progressions on their instruments, usually healing people. That's what history remembers, anyway.

Paul Foster Case used Allan Bennett's musical qabalah to create a practical system for such magico-musical healing, which I've read was still in use by the Builders of the Adytum until at least the late 1990s.

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I put that chart through https://translate.yandex.com/ocr to see if I couldn't get some clues as to its nature. What text the software was able to (maybe) translate was mostly words for body parts like, "Hard Nipple" and my favorite, "Undergrad/Anal". It could be this was an instructional aid for some musical healing system, if I'm correct and it's a chord wheel.

If no one comes forth with more information, I'll try and get ahold of a Russian.


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22/06/2020 7:05 pm  

Growing up in Finland as weird half-Finnish half-English kid I had Russian lessons at my school. I was very lazy with poor concentration (and still am) so I didn't learn much, but I did learn the Russian alphabet and still remember it, along with a couple of words. One of these words is "glaza", "eyes", which is the last word on the headings above the two circles on your chart. I translated the preceding words "pravogo"/"levogo" on each heading as "right"/"left". I'm guessing these circles could represent the right and left eyes. I'll have a look at a few more words to try and make more sense.


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22/06/2020 7:19 pm  

Looking like some sort of iridology chart then.


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22/06/2020 8:04 pm  

@ignant666

Never knew that subject even existed. Makes sense that this is what this chart is. The words written in the circle are various body parts and notice they are mirrored for the left eye.

With the help of Google Translate:

общий ключ для диагноза правого глаза = general key for the diagnosis of the right eye

36 анатомилеских декатов = 36 anatomical decans

аналогилно 36 зодиакальных-космилеских деканатов = similarly the 36 zodiacal-cosmic decans

зрачек = pupil


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22/06/2020 9:09 pm  
Posted by: @djedi

the Builders of the Adytum until at least the late 1990s.

I was schooled in the BOTA method of constrcting charts based on astrology, but converted through 1-22 Numerology into Tarot revelations. I'll be darned if it wasn't really quite accurate.

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If no one comes forth with more information, I'll try and get ahold of a Russian.

You will then be investigated by some Congressional committee or a 3-letter agency (these are legion).

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Looking like some sort of iridology chart then.

Yes it is.

I found the 4th image interesting. It is another attempt to label the invisible (except for the visible light range) Spectrum of Consciousness, which I have been known to run-on about, stating that ALL systems are merely attempts to duplicate that normally-invisible Spectrum.

The system that most closely duplicates the Spectrum will be, obviously, the one that is most practical. That is, the one that works the easiest for producing the results that were advertised in the first place. In my estimation, and probably in other's here as well, the A.'.A.'. curriculum is the clearest, cleanest, most practical guide for the western wandering mind.

It must be recognized that some folks would shriek and shuck at such a path, probably due to cultural programming (Netzach) and prior lifetimes in ceremonial black work (Chesed - defiled). And then there's anyone's ray. A 6th ray devotee is going to embrace Guru Yoga, so God (Aiwass? Brahma? IHVH? Allah? Atma? Etc?) created Adi-da and Sai Baba to lead them. Such folks will recoil with horror at Magick.

Anyway, both AMORC and BOTA were linked to OTO, or Qabalah, or Arcania and they produced some interesting work. Those two, plus Manly P. Hall (he was so manly), were on the same playing field. Their (relatively) large audience was the general public. It was mostly grass-roots stuff at the Student level.

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Makes sense that this is what this chart is.

Yes. If the "doctor" notices a discoloration, or [gasp] a black spot, in the zone marked Large Intestine, then he/she might recommend "colitis" as a diagnosis.

The whole of any hologram is contained in any (all) of its parts. To get a license in Oriental Medicine, we had to do the "Tongue Reading" and "Pulse Reading" tricks, each of which gives a picture of the whole body. "Face Reading" is also recognized in Or Med, but one is not tested in that. This iridology is another one.

It has been said that we could know everything about any person by the wear marks on their shoes ... if only we had the 777 correlations.


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22/06/2020 10:09 pm  
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general key for the diagnosis of the right eye

Posted by: @ignant666

Looking like some sort of iridology chart then.

Like vile jelly is the bitter taste of this disappointment. But at least we know, now. That's one mystery solved today, LAShTAL.

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Growing up in Finland

Ah, so that's why you like ducks so well? I hear Don Rosa is very popular up there.

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prior lifetimes in ceremonial black work

I had the displeasure of meeting, I suppose a couple years back, a profoundly misguided individual who had devoted himself to what he reckoned was one of the goetic, Solomonic demons. Belial or Bune, or something with a B. He thought that he had served B. through several lifetimes, and told me about dreams he had of sacrificing people in the dark ages to this demon. He said the thing spoke to him and confirmed this.

He also thought spirits under the command of other, warring demons would move his car around parking lots when he wasn't looking, to intimidate him.

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To get a license in Oriental Medicine, we had to do the "Tongue Reading" and "Pulse Reading" tricks, each of which gives a picture of the whole body. "Face Reading" is also recognized in Or Med, but one is not tested in that. This iridology is another one.

So it was in your league all along!


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22/06/2020 11:01 pm  
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Like vile jelly is the bitter taste of this disappointment. But at least we know, now. That's one mystery solved today, LAShTAL.

Don't you think your response to the poor old marginal science of iridology may have been a little on the extreme side there, djedi?  Whatever can it have done to you to have caused this sort of (over-)reaction?  And you find jelly vile, too??!!

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He also thought spirits under the command of other, warring demons would move his car around parking lots when he wasn't looking, to intimidate him.

The absolute swine!!  Never mind your acquaintance's sacrificing of victims in the dark ages, are there no depths to which some entities will not dare stoop?

Norma N Joy Conquest


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23/06/2020 1:41 am  
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So it was in your league all along!

No. I am not an iridologist. I might use the shiny covering of a person's eye like a crystal ball, and read their past lives and vacations, but I don't know "spot 1" about iris-reading ... except that it's another holographic instrument in the right hands.

 


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23/06/2020 1:47 am  
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Ah, so that's why you like ducks so well?

That might be a subconscious reason, those comics were popular there and probably still are (I left a long time ago). I got fond of ducks after having a couple of pet ones. My intentionally silly username is kind of a Bodhisattvic-Thelemic joke: I don't want a HGA unless my pet duck can have one too. 😊 


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23/06/2020 1:51 am  
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Posted by: @djedi

Like vile jelly is the bitter taste of this disappointment. But at least we know, now. That's one mystery solved today, LAShTAL.

Don't you think your response to the poor old marginal science of iridology may have been a little on the extreme side there, djedi?  Whatever can it have done to you to have caused this sort of (over-)reaction?  And you find jelly vile, too??!!

The Bard of Avon is rolling in the aisles, or, Brush up your Baked Spears. I'll see myself out.


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23/06/2020 2:51 am  
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Don't you think your response to the poor old marginal science of iridology may have been a little on the extreme side there, djedi?

"Oh dear, I believe my leg fell off. But let me check my iris just to be sure." 

Really, though, I was only hoping for some knowledge with a broader application (or any application at all, depending on how one feels about this 'marginal science' as you diplomatically put it).


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23/06/2020 6:11 am  
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I'll see myself out.

Hey, thanks for dropping by.

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I was only hoping for some knowledge

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23/06/2020 6:42 pm  
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 [Iridology stuff]

I was more in the market for some Soviet mad (occult) science, like how Vladimir Demikhov did those head transplants on dogs.

That's one of the thaumaturgies my namesake performed, you know. Decapitating animals then putting their heads back on before resurrecting them, good as new.


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23/06/2020 7:18 pm  

Jeepers, Creepers

Where'd ya get those Peepers. 

 

Not peeping toms, Iggers. 

 

Iridology seems fairly intense.  As in hard to see, as in the sectors are tiny. 


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