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 Anonymous
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04/01/2013 4:42 am  

Lon Milo Duquette suggests that Crowley made use of the enochian keys to do goetic work; however, it isn't clear in "Aleister Crowley's Illustrated Goetia" whether the method Duquette describes is Duquette's own suggestion for the readers, or the actual method Crowley used.

Is there any evidence indicating just what format Crowley used?
Did he perform the preliminary Invocation AND the Enochian Keys? Or just the latter? Or something else?

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Philip Harris-Smith
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04/01/2013 4:18 pm  

Crowleys Goetia gives the conjurations etc in Enochian alongside English.

Generaly I do the English, the English of the Enochian, then the Enochian with a brief pause between each as laid out in his book which presumably is how he did them.

As far as I can tell he didn't use the actual enochian keys or calls as such.

I havn't read DuQuettes Goetia stuff but some of his other books are excellent and his Goetia stuff has had good reviews.

On a personal note I use schemhamphorash Angels with Goetia the attributions for this are a matter of debate however Poke Runyon provides a set for his dark mirror technique and Skinner/Rankine also give attributions for actual evocation which compare with Runyons attributions.


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Michael Staley
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04/01/2013 6:50 pm  
"Philip Harris-Smith" wrote:
As far as I can tell he didn't use the actual enochian keys or calls as such.

Whatever leads you to that conclusion?

Enochian was an integral part of Golden Dawn teaching. Crowley published the Calls in The Equinox. He had an Enochian phrase as a motto for one of his grades. He worked systematically the thirty aethyrs, the early ones in Mexico, then subsequently in the Algerian Desert. He says somewhere in The Confessions of the Enochian language that its origins were mysterious, but that anyone that used it could attest to the fact that it works. I believe that a recording exists of him uttering an Enochian call. Crowley had a strong sense of curiousity, experimenting with anything that was likely to open doors to the magical and the mystical.

It's extremely unlikely, to say the least, that he didn't use Enochian.


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04/01/2013 7:15 pm  

I own a copy of DuQuette and Hyatt's Aleister Crowley's Illustrated Goetia. Here is the relevant section from the introductory chapter "History." After pointing out that it's unnecessary to parrot the old-fashioned Conjuration script of the text, the authors write, "Aleister Crowley was aware of this and crafted several versions of his own conjurations. In fact, as we shall later see, in his own copy of the Goetia he simply hand copied the Second Key of the Enochian system. It is our opinion (and that of other Crowley scholars) that for personal Goetic conjurations Crowley most likely in his later years discarded the traditional conjurations and simply recited the First and Second Enochian Calls" (45).

They print Crowley's conjuration (in Enochian and English) on pp. 62-65.

Hope that helps.


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Philip Harris-Smith
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16/01/2013 6:48 pm  

"Whatever leads you to that conclusion? "

Simply that in Crowley's goetia he does not give the various enochain calls or keys, rather he gives enochian versions of the goetic conjurations.  I thought I made that clear in my post, apologies for the omission if I did not.

Interesting that Crowley eventually may have used standard enochian calls.  What is the reasoning for this?  I find the goetic demons very obediant but with ill humour, does anyone find a different format improves the surly attitude?


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 Anonymous
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02/04/2014 2:10 pm  

From another angle Crowley used the "triangle of evocation" p (39) Goetia, Calephai press 2003, when calling the tenth Aeythr; and as far as I am aware he used himself as the material basis.

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 Anonymous
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14/04/2014 10:21 pm  

    [b"]Enochian World of Aleister Crowley. Enochian Sex Magick." Lon Milo Duquette. Christopher S. Hyatt. (p 32)
    "The Seven Talismans."
        "It is interesting to note that the names on these "planetary" talismans are those of the Goetia."

        These are the talismans which surround the "Twelve Fold" table. I have not directly come upon evidence of Crowley implementing this particular element of furniture in his "workings," but this does demonstrate a specific connection between the Goetia and the Enochian systemae. Crowley paid such attention to detail in all practical aspects and as such there is a strong possibility that he used these Goetic talismans.


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