Interesting point David, most hetrosexual males would probably much prefer to be 'killed' rather than 'filled'.

I consider myself as a human to be bisexual. Setting aside the fact that I have never met a man I want to have any sexual relations with I loathe homophobia, I find it childish and small minded.

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Congratulations.

then you probably agree with my theory about Wasserman et al?

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Where in those verses is there the slightest suggestion that "let it fill me" implies the penis?

Assuming that a group of homophobes are promoting with fervour the works of someone who was at times a rampant homosexual, aren't there works rather more explicit and hence more demanding of revision, such as The Bagh-i-Muattar?

What an absurd "theory".

I agree with Michael, the whole thing seems very childish.

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we're going to have get a big blue pencil for "The World's Tragedy" as well.

Big blue pencil - 'nuff said.

Apricots.

I consider myself as a human to be bisexual. Setting aside the fact that I have never met a man I want to have any sexual relations with I loathe homophobia, I find it childish and small minded.

Bisexual?

Bisexuality is a behaviour....in my view, if you don't do it then your aren't it. You can't just alter sexuality when it suits i.e. to identify more closely with AC.

The hostility from some of the posters above, indicates to me that David definitely does have a point.

If I were to claim that I was a reincarnation of Aleister Crowley, and this claim evoked hostility and ridicule, would that make the claim more likely in your eyes?

Whether or not the verb is "fill" or "kill", the voice of the scripture qualifies this with "let it"- which is submissive. To suggest that there is a conspiracy amongst hetero men over the verb who are crying out: "Let it be KILLED! I will not be FILLED! I would rather *die* than have you in my ass and/or my mouth!"- is absurd.

If I were to claim that I was a reincarnation of Aleister Crowley, and this claim evoked hostility and ridicule, would that make the claim more likely in your eyes?

Ah, not necessarily, as AC claimed to be the reincarnation of Eliphas Levi among others.

Who cares if it was kill or fill.  Crowley was bi-sexual, who cares.  Some Thelemites are bi-sexual, some are heterosexual, some are homosexual.  As long as those who are being filled enjoy it as much as those doing the filling, who cares?

... Peaches & Nectarines. Key in the melody  🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C8Qq2Gm4KI

Melody starts at 1:02.

I used to have an apple....but...someone ate it.!?

Must have been that bitch, Eve. She's been sneaking around behind people's backs, eating all of their apples.

As the born-again Christian said when celebrating being cured of homosexuality

I have turned my back on sodomy, and tossed masturbation over my shoulder.

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To chime in this melody with some more silliness:

♪  Yes we have no bananas, we have no bananas today ♪

(There appear to be no bananas available for filling, eating or other purposes…)

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No it isn't, it's a simple statement of fact. We are all a mix of male/female, it's only when people try to put other people into boxes that any confusion is created.

I don't see any hostility, all I see is someone with a chip on their shoulder feeling threatened.

Precisely, all things being equal, there is no reason why it would.

The thing that irritates me about homophobia is that these people feel threatened by another persons sexuality. It is really is of no concern to anyone what your sexuality is. Really none of us should feel any need to define our sexuality whatsoever. There are people out there who get aroused at the sight of angular objects, certain sounds or colours without another human being even entering the equation... it's about time we stopped trying to categorise and define everyone, like it's something dangerous to be contained. Just be who you are. And if you have a problem with what or who other people are, get over yourself and realise that it's you who has the problem.

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No it isn't, it's a simple statement of fact.

Of course it is...it's a way of behaving. I can tell myself I am a carrot, but if I don't behave like one, the chances are I'm not!

If you want to be called a carrot that's fine by me!  😀

But carrot is a noun not a verb it, it describes what a thing is not what it does. If we were to accept your ascertain that sexual definition is dependent upon sexual behaviour we could no longer identify sexually inactive animals as male or female.

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If we were to accept your ascertain that sexual definition is dependent upon sexual behaviour we could no longer identify sexually inactive animals as male or female.

I'm talking about gender - not the sex of something.

So on that basis, to know you were for example transgender I would have to observe you doing what exactly?

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So on that basis, to know you were for example transgender I would have to observe you doing what exactly?

The transgender identity umbrella includes a number of overlapping categories, with slightly different types of behaviour. It's completely off topic, so you might wish to Google it or try Wikipedia.

If you are going to define a persons sexuality purely by behaviour then this is where we end up. Are we to believe that virgins and chaste priests/nuns have undefined sexualities.

But his is all an aside, what does it matter to you what another persons sexuality, sexual appetites, sex and/or gender are?

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Are we to believe that virgins and chaste priests/nuns have undefined sexualities.

'Asexual' is the word - again, look on Wikipedia.

Anyway to summarise michaelclarke18 I fundamentally disagree that a persons sexuality

So let us assume you consider yourself a heterosexual because by your definition that label fits your behaviour. Then one day you have sex with a man. So on that day you become what gay? bisexual? You didn't have sex with a woman that day... so do you become homosexual that day until you later have sex with a woman at which point you either become bisexual or hetrosexual (assuming someone can commit a sexual act and then change their mind?). That's a lot of changes going on. Seems an utterly ridiculous way to carry on!

But really where I take issue with you is over it having any real importance to anyone but the person themselves and any current or potential sexual partner. I think a person becomes aware of their sexuality and therefore knows it before, if ever, they act upon it. And if you read up on some of these terms on wikipedia you will discover there are multiple interpretations and an ongoing evolution in interpretation, differing schools of thought etc.

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I am getting the distinct impression that you are determined to have the last word. All yours.

How about I have the last word, and we end this entirely off topic discussion (y'know staying on topic being one of the Guidelines)!  Let's discuss something related to AC, KG, Spare, Chumbley.  Something in any of the topics actually listed on the Forums?

Geez, who really cares how anyone here defines their sexuality?  I (and surely I'm not alone here) certainly don't give a damn whatever label anyone here uses to describe their sexual preferences. That's their business, and it has fuck all to do with the topics on the Forums. 

Surely, we can come up with something much more interesting to discuss than this....

'Nuff said!

Geez, who really cares how anyone here defines their sexuality?  I (and surely I'm not alone here) certainly don't give a damn whatever label anyone here uses to describe their sexual preferences.

Perhaps people should choose not to declare it on a forum then.

Perhaps you should avoid making such inflammatory statements Michael! The only reason this has turned into a multi-page... well it would be too generous to call it a discussion about your apparent hangups.

So let me nip it in the bud this declaring of my own sexuality. I believe all human beings are essentially bisexual. It's a belief you no doubt would dispute, but I'm entitled to express it in response to a topic that raises the issue. And no doubt we could argue about it forever. And I for one have no interest in engaging in such a futile argument, given that it's quite clear that your mind is closed to such ideas. I therefore recommend that if you do not wish to hear my views on such matters that you cease to raise them.

I too would like to return to matters of greater relevance to this forum.

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Perhaps you should avoid making such inflammatory statements Michael!

Not inflammatory at all.....I used the word ''probably'' for a reason.

I too would like to return to matters of greater relevance to this forum.

I only wish you would.....

Sigh... let's move along shall we.

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Well, that was an odd thread from its outset and it never seemed to go anywhere.

Locked.