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22/07/2020 11:37 pm  

No this is not about any of the present Lashtal posters...ha..hahha.hha  excuse me whilst I laugh hard...

The Level 3 of the Liber Vel Jugorum exercise as follows;

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(b) By some device, such as the changing of thy ring from one finger to another, create in thyself two personalities, the thoughts of one being within entirely different limits from that of the other, the common ground being the necessities of life.

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  1. (i.e. the matter of Cereberus).
  2. For instance, let A be a man of strong passions, skilled in the Holy Qabalah, a vegetarian, and a keen "reactionary" politician. Let B be a bloodless and ascetic thinker, occupied with business and family cares, an eater of meat, and a keen progressive politician. Let no thought proper to "A" arise when the ring is on the "B" finger, and vice versa.

I'm assuming that none of you are in Level 3 Vel Jugorum other-personality mode when you post here and likewise I wouldn't say that AC was doing this exercise e.g. dumb misogynist personality when he wrote his books i.e. committing to the written word.  Crowley's 'Russian Count' character was done for "purposes of psychological observation" of others not of himself as part of this exercise however we don't appear to know when he was doing this exercise and who he was being when he performed this exercise do we? 

 

Any amateur or professional actor has to do this exercise anyway I guess unless his/her chosen personality is so intimately them anyway.   I guess this is why actors are celebrated. 

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https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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23/07/2020 12:04 am  

Would like to add that AC has been accused of lying about why he did his Russian Count characterization and likewise it would be impossible to know when he was in Vel Jugorum 'other personality' mode throughout his existence unless he actually explained any unusual behaviour resulting from this exercise after the event.  Hence the title of the OP.   For example I could say that I was in reductionist-materialist mode for about a year or so because it was part of an extended Vel Jugorum exercise.... 

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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08/08/2020 12:45 pm  
I assume that Crowley was employing a Peter Sellers sort of characterization prep (in order to fit in with the locals?) in the following incidences and not merely using fake names (reference https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline) ;
 
1899
Adopts name 'Count Vladimir Svareff' early in the year and uses it until the purchase of Boleskine House
 
1904 March 14: AC and Rose move into a flat in Cairo.  It is here where he registers under the Persian name of Chioa Khan, being the Hebrew for Beast.
 
These events are probably well before he developed the Vel Jugorum (Level 3) work/ideas which does not involve amateur dramatics as such but is in fact a form of dharana.   Nevertheless maybe this earlier 'hobby' of adopting different personalities (to get the Demon Crowley out of his way?)  did allow him to go on to develop the Vel Jugorum exercises. 
 
Maybe Crowley (also) adopted these fake personas as part of the espionage work.

https://www.lashtal.com/wiki/Aleister_Crowley_Timeline


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