For anyone not up on Ku Klux Klan terminology, when the Toad says
AKIA White Brother!
what he is saying is "A Klansman I am, White Brother!", normally used as a coded response to the query "AYAK?", which is "Are you a Klansman?":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_titles_and_vocabulary#Code_words_and_phrases
What this gratuitous and offensive racist bullshit has to do with anything being discussed in this thread, or "the life and legacy of Aleister Crowley", is, obviously, nothing at all.
Just yet another example of the very few far-right-wing posters here trolling, abusing this forum, and ignoring the site guidelines.
Nobody really silences the mind.
This is FALSE INFORMATION.
Just because you can't do it, you think nobody can.
Evidence:
www.ken_wilber_stops_his_brainwaves
Notice I invoke the name of Balder
So? I have given up on you. As long as The Moderator allows you to Babble-on, I will only get involved for inaccuracies, misinformation, or misleading the unwary with a complete lack of understanding.
Stopping the Mind is the goal of the whole Path in any form, doing the Work, and Reading the Books where it tells you this is so. People who say this is impossible will also run on about how nobo9dy can get out, which is the same as the Mind-Stop maneuver, which is only temporary and we come back (until Ips - then there's mention of staying on due to the world crisis, which all the Ips and Chohans have done.
In or up your pipe. Smoke it.
@shiva It was not "misinformation" it is my opinion. Even if it is possible, what good is it?
Um, you have not been paying attention. Mind-Stop is the same as getting out, liberation, attainment, 8=3+, the goal of all the Libers and the bovine stuff.
If you are not in accord with this statement, above, perhaps you are either stuck at some prerequisite level or you are posting/hosting in the wrong place.
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my reference to Klan was joke
Ha ha ha.
I love funny Ku Klux Klan jokes. Racism, murder, and torture are comedy gold.
Just yet another example of the very few far-right-wing posters here trolling, abusing this forum, and ignoring the site guidelines.
It was noted by someone else, certainly not me, who noted that all threads finally boil down to the stool defending his ego/persona/position whatever.
John Lennon said "War is over if you want it!"
Was he blurting out a secret?
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John Lennon [blah blah blah]
Mark David Chapman [blah blah blah]
Would it be too much to ask that you two (@toadstoolwe and @hadgigegenraum) refrain from posting unless you actually have something to say that is both:
- at least vaguely, tangentially related to the topic under discussion (here, the origins of the "four powers of the Sphinx"), or at least somehow related to the life and legacy of AC, and
- not in violation of the site Guidelines?
Between the two of you, you have had nine (9) posts deleted in the last three weeks for violating the site Guidelines by posting totally off-topic, gratuitous right-wing political content (one in this thread, and 8 (!!) posts in the "Chat GPT and the Book of the Law, Part Deux" thread).
Of course, @hadgigegenraum is the worse offender here, but he at least sometimes posts relevant and interesting material, which is just not the case with @toadstoolwe's lazy, sloppy, and boring troll posts.
You should both
- review the site Guidelines, the ones you agreed to abide by when you registered your account here, and
- abide by them and stop posting totally off-topic and deeply offensive political content, such as advocating genocide and fascism (as you both often do), and stop continually espousing lunatic conspiracy theories with zero evidence.
No one is forcing you to participate here, and if you can't find it within yourselves to obey the rules here, maybe you should seek out other places to post where pro-genocide content is OK.
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a certain proponent of world war three
You have had five (5) posts deleted in the last three weeks for posting "Irrelevant political content".
Insulting me for opposing Russia's god-given right to engage in genocide, and advocating for Ukraine's right to defend itself against a genocidal invasion, won't change that.
Why don't you grow the fuck up, and obey the site rules you agreed to abide by?
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I'll keep posting what I want, when I want.
If you persist in forcing Paul to delete your posts for gratuitous right-wing content (as he has had to do four (4) times in the last three weeks), no you won't keep posting "what [you] want, when [you] want". You will instead find yourself banned or in pre-moderation limbo.
Since you have very obviously never read the site Guidelines, allow me to call your attention to the fact that posting here is not something you have a right to do, as you appear to imagine:
All members of LAShTAL.COM are permitted to post on the Forums subject to posts being approved by the editor. However, it is the current policy of LAShTAL.COM that this requirement for pre-moderation is waived unless the member demonstrates an unwillingness or inability to comply with these Guidelines. In other words, authority to post without pre-moderation is a concession, not a right of membership. The editor reserves the right at any time, and without notice, to withdraw from any member any or all rights to post without pre-moderation. [emphasis added]
The United States started this war by insisting the Ukraine join NATO
Obviously, this is totally false. The war began when Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, and entered its current phase when Russia invaded more of Ukraine with the three-day "special military operation" that has been such a dismal failure for the last 489 days, and has demonstrated that Russia is by no means a military "superpower".
Is saying "peace if you want it" breaking silence?
Oh forget it
@ignant666 It is frustrating: some posters who obviously know nothing are willing and daring to share their nonsense, but they never stay silent. I still believe it will end one day. It is simply unconceivable why some troll would choose a forum with maybe ten active posters to excrete nonsense. On the other hand: that might just be the reason why. Anyway: don't feed the troll is still the best thing, though it hurts so much.
You have had five (5) posts deleted in the last three weeks for posting "Irrelevant political content".
I didn't know that. But, yes, I have been able to notice a repetitive note coming from a couple quarters. That note involves what is generally considered right-wing conspiracy tales, which might be theories, or might be actual factuals.
The point is, none of it is related to the purpose of t5his site. In fact, if some ofr this was repeated on the So-shall Meet-ia, the CIA or some other agency would take note and censorship would follow.
It is in particularly bad taste to drag in traceable comments that the AI will surely find in the future.
I see that the entertainment continues for several posts, indicating either self-defense or a counter-offense. Since Ignant likes to argue, I'll just speedy-read the Octagon Review ... and take a short nap.
@shiva Isn't true that Aleister Crowley was an MI-5 agent charged with interviewing and debriefing Rudolf Hess?
It is simply unconceivable why some troll would choose a forum with maybe ten active posters to excrete nonsense.
Pardon me for nor napping immediately, and for cereally posting, but ...
As I stated above, after your reply, they CANNOT GET AWAY WITH THIS on the so-shell madia. Right-wing, conservative comments and theories, even facts, are mowed down on the major sites.
Why start a fight in a crowded hotel convention, where you will be mauled, when one can stroll over to LAShTAL, which is liberal (easy, not a political icon) in its allowances, where there's only a few posters - focused on obscure data and tales from the crypt of AC?
Why not?
They are here, and pretty soon The Pest Control program will be initiated.
Right-wing, conservative comments and theories, even facts, are mowed down on the major sites.
This is very far indeed from being so.
In fact, most major media and social media in the US are dominated by far-right voices, despite the fact that the right-wing US party (the Republicans) has won the majority of the popular vote in only one of the last 8 Presidential elections (ie most Americans voted for Democrats for President for the last 32 years; this is also true in Senate and Congressional elections).
In fact, there are several far-right cable TV channels (Fox, OANN, NewsMax, etc), and zero left/liberal ones, most print newspapers are pro-right, outside of a few "prestige" outlets like the NY and LA Times, and Washington Post that are neutral/centrist (all of the above regularly publish far-right editorials, but almost never publish anything from any left POV), much of Facebook is right-wing nut-material, and of course Twitter is currently owned by a pro-Russian far-right Troll CEO.
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In fact, most major media and social media in the US are dominated by far-right voices
I didn't know that. But then, I don't go there. Thank you for allowing me to adjust my thinking principle.
They are all mostly woke left-wing propaganda
This was my previous understanding, probably infused by reading somebody else's opinion, somewhere. I have learned tob resist political polarization by maintaining a strict neutrality (because they're all crooked, you know).
You live in a Marxist la-la land.
In Lala (31+31) there is one thing I am rather interested in. The enemy is clearly definedv as the wielders of inherited wealth (and their agents, of course). AC said that most big holdings were initially funded by criminal acts.
Frater Captain Taurus (LAPD) info9rmed me that, contrary to the popular saying, crime does pay.
The holders of inherited wealth protect their wealth and themselves through corporations. A corporation is an artificial entity. Who invented this bullshit? Why, the benefactors of inherited wealth did. Then they sent their kids to law school to refine the protection and extend the profit.
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@ignant666 Whatever you say daddy-o! I'll keep posting what I want, when I want.
... and I will continue to delete your posts if they fail to comply with the simple Guidelines.
Just a reminder that you are one small step from having your account closed. Account closure will mean the deletion of all 1,080 of your posts.
Owner and Editor
LAShTAL
@lashtal Okay. I appreciate you giving me another chance (Among many others you have given me)
Right-wing, conservative comments and theories, even facts, are mowed down on the major sites.
This is very far indeed from being so.
In fact, most major media and social media in the US are dominated by far-right voices, despite the fact that the right-wing US party (the Republicans) has won the majority of the popular vote in only one of the last 8 Presidential elections (ie most Americans voted for Democrats for President for the last 32 years; this is also true in Senate and Congressional elections).
In fact, there are several far-right cable TV channels (Fox, OANN, NewsMax, etc), and zero left/liberal ones, most print newspapers are pro-right, outside of a few "prestige" outlets like the NY and LA Times, and Washington Post that are neutral/centrist (all of the above regularly publish far-right editorials, but almost never publish anything from any left POV), much of Facebook is right-wing nut-material, and of course Twitter is currently owned by a pro-Russian far-right Troll CEO.
obviously political ramblings having nothing to do with the subject...that gets a free pass
Now peace if you want it, if peace is an interior quality of silence, if one can dare and will to~
[O]bviously political ramblings having nothing to do with the subject...that gets a free pass
See, the difference is that i am replying to something someone else said. I am not gratuitously on my own inserting my political views that have nothing to do with anything anyone else has said, the way you and the Toad continually do.
Then there is the fact that i am stating facts and opinions, and not insulting other posters in polemical political terms.
Finally, unlike you, i am not advocating for genocide. Advocating for genocide is against the site Guidelines.
One more thing: If you were to read the site Guidelines for the first time, a thing you would learn is that posts like this last one complaining about Paul's moderation decisions..... are in violation of the site Guidelines:
You must not discuss moderator decisions or actions in public. [....] The editor’s decisions are final: complaints about moderating decisions are likely to lead to the immediate termination of accounts. Moderating decisions – including the closure of accounts – will be undertaken without public or private justification or discussion.
It really is pretty simple to comply with the Guidelines; you should give it a try.
Now peace if you want it, if peace is an interior quality of silence, if one can dare and will to~
Your thesis intrigues me. Can you elaborate? In a historical context, I would think To Know, To Will, To Dare, To keep silent would be the perfect credo for an alchemist.
In a historical sense it might be the credo for a criminal gang or government, with the two being intertwined with the right wing media, and right wing funders of the military like Bernie Sanders. to which the Washington Post and New York Times are the mastheads of galleons that want war and more war...
"Peace if you want it" thus of course was a blast to the right wing media that pushes the wars and who could stop it...and the phrase harkens back to a saying that said that you will always have wars and rumors of wars...said murdered to.
Was there ever an assassination attempt on Crowley other than Mathers?!....Oh I am sure female nails might have ripped flesh with such intention while fully triggered....
In a historical sense it might be the credo for a criminal gang or government, with the two being intertwined with the right wing media, and right wing funders of the military like Bernie Sanders. to which the Washington Post and New York Times are the mastheads of galleons that want war and more war...
Bernie Sanders? Are you kidding? He is left of Leon Trotsky. The think you are getting your "wings" confused. Also, I have never heard of an assignation plot against Mathers, that's news to me. As far as Female nails attacking Crowley, I think he probably enjoyed it. Especially in the realm of occult eroticism.
Erratum: Should have read: "assassination" plot. " I think you are getting your wings confused.
Just a reminder that you are one small step from having your account closed.
As Choronzon (Head-zone) said to Victor: "Do you realize how close you are to destruction?"
See, the difference is that i am replying to something someone else said.
Yes. I have previously stated that you, Ignant, do not step up to the podium and make off-topic announcements. Like Ghostbusters, you reply to certain posts, invariably setting them straight, and reminding them of their off-topicness.
There then ensues a bunch of squealing and squacking, mostly in defense of the first ammendement.
Of course, this is not unusual. The A.'.A.'. (in the Outer College), the Templars from the Orient (full spectrum), The US Gov, and the Edu system (in general), all suffer from this same pathology: Any group function seems to grow a disruptive wild card or two. They always exhibit an obvious lack of control. Exercises in dharana are recommended, but never taken up.
I cited The Adventures of Frater Luna (lunatic) in Inside Solar Lodge. No9w, when you've got the perp in your physical presence, you can always introduce him to The Ritual of the seven Holy Kings, which is a lot of fun. Which we did.
while fully triggered....
Which you appear to be. Please refrain from dragging in irrelevant external matrix events.
Of course, this is not unusual. The A.'.A.'. (in the Outer College), the Templars from the Orient (full spectrum), The US Gov, and the Edu system (in general), all suffer from this same pathology: Any group function seems to grow a disruptive wild card or two. They always exhibit an obvious lack of control. Exercises in dharana are recommended, but never taken up.
"The Wild Cards" are simply the mutations of initiation. I will either adapt and survive, or I won't.
Crowley was one of those "wild cards" on orders from silence
Crowley was one of those "wild cards" on orders from silence
Now this I got to hear! Can you please explain your comment O Cryptic one? Your comments are as obtuse as the Riddle of the Sphinx.
Crowley was one of those "wild cards" on orders from silence
The Silence refers to Binah, 8=3
see any QBL Table and you will see
one stops the mind in order to be free
of all the insanity down in the Tree
Yeah, VVVVV arose and he spoke,
Perdurabo wrote him down
But it was admitted to be no joke
'cause he was really the Crown
I think there was the usual fiddling with the rules and the reality...
"Then arose V.V.V.V.V., who is a Master of the Temple ... or so he disclosed to the Exempt Adepts [DDS & OM]." - paraphrased
VVVVV is also identified as The Light of The World, itself.
After sitting in Silence, while re-building the G.D. along A.'.A.'.lines, VVVVV reveals himself as To Mega Therion ... who speaks endlessly, as is his job description.
I think it all started when AC decided to publish the GD's ""secrets," and thus destroy it. Once he defeated Mathers in court over said publication(s), there was essentially no stopping. Yes, all the secrets of Indian Yoga and Western Magic were revealed ...
------------------- This is The Line ---------------------
... except for the supreme secret of the IX, which he was under obligation of Silence and Secrecy - but which you could buy by joining The Tong and paying fees and dues in advance, and no work was required, but you had to obey orders and not cause problems. This is where Crowley crossed The Line [displayed above] and entered politics (Masonic hierarchies and such).
The only thing left, pertinent to this thread, is that we don't know what operations he performed (to create new adepts) that he never said anything about, maintaining Silence so they work out - maybe those results are posting here today ?
Your comments are as obtuse as the Riddle of the Sphinx.
His comment was crystal clear for the clairvoyants. I have elaborated upon how Crowley blabbed a lot.
But to hear presupposes a breaking of the silence, and thus would, if one thinks on such things, perhaps effect willing and daring~perhaps, perhaps~
There are two Pillars. or is it pillows?, of Silence ... One is where you don't talk at all about some things, and use it as an excuse to avoid confrontations and prevent winning arguments and lotteries. I use this one a lot, in certain cases, and have probably lost a lot of potential winnings.
The other is the fourth in the Levi 1-2-3-4 formula, which is too secret to type out loud or visibly. This, as explained earlier, is the Silent Mind-Stop. It overshadows and precludes blabbing or automatic typing, because the effectiveness of the external magick is associated with the complete release of the objective at the highest point of the ceremony.
Any talking, typing, or thinking/wishing about the outcome, before it comes out, indicates a crack or a hole in the concept of complete release of goal, outcome, and (frankly) is a function the ego-centric separate self who is a dunce.
Once the outcome has come out, there is no reason to curtail one's speech or keyboard or pen. One may wish to employ cover-up, alibi, insanity, marketing, or loudspeaker broadcasting once it has landed.
if one thinks on such things, perhaps effect willing and daring~perhaps, perhaps~
To Know, to Will, to Dare, to Keep Silence ... maybe?
While the following doesn't answer any questions about the origin of KWDS, it seems obvious that for AC the Silence part of "old-Aeon" Golden Dawn Magick was unneccessary, while his own "special" Magick had to be kept silent of outside a very restricted high-rank membership in his own orders.
Know, Will, Dare, Silence....as you have translated to KWDS....and now a turn or two and we get Knights Wands Disks Swords as I am sure has been noticed long before...
Also silence is still...
KWDS
20 + 6 + 4 +60
= 90
In The Book of Lies Ch 90 invokes The End.
The Commentary reads ...
"This chapter is a sort of final Confession of Faith.
It is the unification of all symbols and all planes.
The End is expressible."
Perhaps this is why he was perplexed ?
And that chapter is called:
STARLIGHT
@hadgigegenraum You can call me little Starlight.
I was drawn to moon and star magick far before sunlight. But that's because I was a dark creature, of the Piscean variety, grown on the farthest planet, Pluto.
That said, you and Toady should shut up about politics.
As in . Keep Silent.
To you Dare, to try and Will your brain to Stop?
Good luck to ye.
And thus you demonstrate an abuse of the four fold formula....And that is rather typical of societies run by masonic cliques that push a rules based order on the world in order to steal even silence itself. For if you are so bothered, then why stir something up when there is nothing to give you jurisdiction to make your comment.
And thus you must apply your own out of place comment back upon yourself, because that is karma, as sometimes happens to plaintiffs in a court of law who are bluffing about their standing, and are really just using the courts to intimidate.
Happy Forth of July!
there is nothing to give you jurisdiction to make your comment.
But, you see, The Owner and Moderator, himself, in writ, turned juris-direction of The Guidelines over to "us," quite a few years ago. He then took a backer seat and certain folks stepped forward to remind cowans of the [Masonic-based] rules.
I will entertain a look into masonry from my perspective. In pre-Solar Lodge, the oral transmission said that Masonry was run by businessmen, and the members conducted business deals behind closed doors, which were closed because if they were open things like monopoly, insider trading, consorting with the enemy, and hostile takeaways would be out in the open.
For some reason, Masonry Motors do not run on strange drugs. but on ... ethanol.
They do not admit women. So one has found The Patriarchy .
That said, you and Toady should shut up about politics.
Toady hasn't mentioned politics after my harsh Choronzon treatment by the Gatekeepers. You moon/star struck bovine creature! Keep me out of this.
Chris admits he is a slow-learner. He is also a slow-reader. He is commenting (today-yester-day) on things that happened a week ago. This happens when one does not attend forum on a day-lee basis. One has to go back in time to where they last recognize the writ, and then they move forward, perhaps making a comment that is slightly out-dated.
Thus we have Chris posting anti-pol rhetoric ... after the matter has been squashed (but certainly not settled 'til the fall of the Great Equinox.
I have gone to great (well, moderate) length to illustrate how a post can be out of sync for those who are confused, but perfectly logical if one simply goes back in time (not far).