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03/01/2020 11:18 am  

Various outlets are reporting the news, and it's easily found through Google search.

Here's the Wild Hunt report: https://wildhunt.org/2020/01/ex-u-s-senate-candidate-arrested-in-florida.html


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03/01/2020 11:43 am  

In terms of OTO membership-filtering filming goat sacrifice is a no go but being a fully fledged nazi is ok?


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03/01/2020 11:44 am  

@dom well they keep Wasserman as "untouchable" along his entire cult of lemmings... so I suppose being a nazi is fine in Breeze's book. 

 


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03/01/2020 11:53 am  

Doc Shoemaker seems alright.  He does some good YouTube talks on the subject of magick.

Anyway I wouldn't have posted the OP as it spreads publicity for the wrong element.  Racism is the basest form of Jungian shadow projection and magick is about.....  dealing more effectively with projection so such a person isn't really a magician let alone a Thelemite.


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03/01/2020 11:55 am  

@dom Shoemaker is ok, not saying there aren't decent people in O.T.O. Inc. 

Too bad they don't seem to particularly care about the ongoing trend, as long as their little oasis are ok.

 


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03/01/2020 12:07 pm  

Where you in the OTO?


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03/01/2020 12:23 pm  

@dom I was, and I resigned after uncovering rape coverups, abuse of various kind, and connections with neofascism an the "alt-right". For that I was "doxxed" and received death threads. I also realised I was not the only one that the Breeze gang treated this way.

Read here and related articles if interested: http://www.marcovisconti.org/wasteland/

 


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03/01/2020 12:34 pm  

Apologies I used 'where' for  'were'.

Rape!  What!? Who raped who and where?  Any convictions?


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03/01/2020 12:36 pm  

Read the link above.


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03/01/2020 3:28 pm  

Yeah I see that 'alt right' guys have infiltrated modern American Thelemic groups including Facebook discussion groups (go take a look even the administrators are in on it if I'm not mistaken).

Alt-right misery seems to be born of white college graduates with a grudge about not being able to 'get laid' with who they want and not being able to get paid in a degree related career which holds prospects for promotion.

 Hitler left for Vienna (as fantasist or occultists call it what you will) with big ideas about being a famous and well respected painter of city scenes and buildings.  Although very talented his two applications to enter art college were rejected.  He was dazzled by bourgeois culture...but only from a distance.  Bitterness ensued.  The rest is history.


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03/01/2020 3:41 pm  

One of my students used to have a t-shirt that said "Oh lord, give me the confidence of a mediocre white man!"


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03/01/2020 3:54 pm  

The thing that strikes a Brit when they stay in the USA imo is the intense competitiveness.  You're either a loser or a big shot and f___ you if you're the former.


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03/01/2020 7:13 pm  
Posted by: @dom

The thing that strikes a Brit when they stay in the USA imo is the intense competitiveness.

Well, it's a really good thing that we don't see any such thing in these holy threads.


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03/01/2020 10:08 pm  

Re the link;  Goat sacrifice delusional rants and sleazy sex-magic guy yes.  Wasserman's rants about 'Islam-fascism' yes but I didn't see anything about an OTO rapist. 


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04/01/2020 12:15 am  
Posted by: @dom

I didn't see anything about an OTO rapist. 

I should hope not. The revelation of a Frater Jack the Raper would not help to shine the already-tarnished image.


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04/01/2020 12:43 am  
Posted by: @shiva 

The revelation of a Frater Jack the Raper would not help to shine the already-tarnished image.

In these PC days of equality-for-all I feel it is of paramount importance that we do not neglect the possibility of buggery by some Soror Jill the Raper either, with or without the assistance of some strap-on device (I believe the exact verb is 'pegging' these days).  I remember there was a celebrated court case in the 70s where some erotic horny wench had had it away by impaling herself on her unwilling (and I believe Christian-oriented) boyfriend's appendage, which she had managed to stimulate by some fearful means whilst tying him to the bed.

"In omnibus aequitas" (=Balance in all things),

NormaN Joy Conquest

 


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04/01/2020 8:33 am  
Posted by: @dom

Re the link;  Goat sacrifice delusional rants and sleazy sex-magic guy yes.  Wasserman's rants about 'Islam-fascism' yes but I didn't see anything about an OTO rapist. 

You didn't read well enough, then. 


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04/01/2020 8:40 am  

How about using you copy/paste facility for us? 🙂  Most of us have things to do and that's an epic article.  Epic as in long.


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04/01/2020 8:50 am  
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How about using you copy/paste facility for us? 🙂  Most of us have things to do and that's an epic article.  Epic as in long.

I genuinely don't believe in spoon-feeding anything. If you don't have the will to find it out for yourself, then you don't need to know about it. This thread is not about the several instances of rape and sexual scandal in O.T.O. - especially here in the UK - anyway.


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04/01/2020 9:44 am  

have the will to find it out for yourself, then you don't need to know about it

 

I'm only interested in full convictions and names not allegations and you seem to be discussing allegations only which is probably why you won't provide us with the exact references. 


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04/01/2020 9:46 am  
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I'm only interested in full convictions and names not allegations and you seem to be discussing allegations only which is probably why you won't provide us with the exact references. 

Bye Felicia 🙂


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04/01/2020 9:57 am  

'Bye Felicia'...……. ?  


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04/01/2020 12:41 pm  

"What 'Bye Felicia' means in Urban Dictionary":

Felicia is usually found in the expression "Bye Felicia!".  Being a "Felicia" means that you are not any longer relevant to or loved by the person who said it. 

"Bye, Felicia" is a dismissive term which can be used in a number of different contexts. Most simply and frequently, it is used as a cold way to bid someone a less-than-fond farewell.

Helpfully informatively yours

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04/01/2020 2:00 pm  

Thanks Jamie. Did  you trawl through the essay?


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04/01/2020 6:33 pm  
Posted by: @dom

Most of us have things to do and that's an epic article.  Epic as in long.

I second the notion. It's true that relatively-true truths should be delivered in one sentence. For complex true truths involving numbers and letters, one paragraph may (might) be alloted.

Posted by: @azrael2393

I genuinely don't believe in spoon-feeding anything.

But then how will the little children of the light survive? I guess pouring a bucket of gruel down their throats will have to suffice. I have found that the "higher truths" can only be explained in small child lingo, because intellectual adult confusion is so long-winded.

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you won't provide us with the exact references. 

Said exact references will be published in An Appendix, , which will be published next year. The galley proofs have now been in the proofing room for a decade. Patience is a virtue, and all things come to Him who Waites.

Posted by: @jamiejbarter

Being a "Felicia" means that you are not any longer relevant to or loved by the person who said it. 

Oh No!  Somebody else has been expelled.

 


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04/01/2020 7:05 pm  

Thanks for your ' The Wasteland' essay...Of course such a title, at least in my mind, immediately invokes T.S. Eliot's, to which would it not been more appropriate to come up with something original, but of course titles are not copyrighted, and your prefatory remarks provide the relevant reference for such a choice....

I admit my read was more of a skim, due primarily to the fact, on my computer, that the text is very lightly toned and thus hard to read, a rather annoying phenomena that seems more common these days, but be that as it may, the narrative obviously has relevance in helping to free yourself and others from this miasmic atmosphere....

 


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05/01/2020 11:51 am  

Azrael do you mean this bit?

In 2014, Invictus allegedly pointed a gun at his then-roommate according to a police report filed, and in 2016 one of his former girlfriends who remains unidentified filed a police report and told an Orlando officer that Invictus told a mutual friend he intended to burn all of her possessions and “shoot her on the spot.” Her allegations included various episodes of physical violence and abuse during their 15-month relationship.
Another case centered around an Altamonte Springs, Fla., high school senior he met in 2015, and later became involved with. The unidentified young woman made allegations of assault that culminated with him punching her in the spine and then had sex with her while she was essentially incapacitated.

 


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05/01/2020 12:14 pm  

No. 

That Invictus is a rapist is by now a clear fact. In The Wasteland - which indeed takes its name from Eliot, amongst other inspirations - I speak of him AND of other individuals connected with O.T.O. Inc. who proved to be rapists.

 


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05/01/2020 1:15 pm  

Ok we're not getting anywhere with you providing exact references for your link in that OP and furthermore ,worse, the link has now been modified and totally snipped.  

Now we're onto this essay of yours called The wasteland which as far as I can see you haven't provided  a link for so we can't read it.    The other OTO rapists are you talking allegations or actual prosecutions and completed court cases?

 


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05/01/2020 1:20 pm  
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Ok we're not getting anywhere with you providing exact references for your link in that OP and furthermore ,worse, the link has now been modified and totally snipped.  

Meaning?

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Now we're onto this essay of yours called The wasteland which as far as I can see you haven't provided  a link for so we can't read it.    The other OTO rapists are you talking allegations or actual prosecutions and completed court cases?

There are both what you dismissively, and with a touch of misogyny, call allegations, and completed court cases. If you are interested in finding evidence, go look for it.


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05/01/2020 1:53 pm  

. If you are interested in finding evidence, go look for it.

 

Thanks, great advice.  

 

 

 


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05/01/2020 2:07 pm  
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Thanks, great advice.  

You are welcome!


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05/01/2020 6:40 pm  
Posted by: @dom

If you are interested in finding evidence, go look for it.

Thanks, great advice.  

Seek, and ye shall find.  (Biblo-quote)

Seek what? Evidence of Rapery?

Find what? Evidence of Rapery?

The casual reader of this thread is certain to note the extensive use of, and reference to, a stick and a carrot ... possibly leading to an Appendix in the undetermined future where people actually say what they mean without inference, innuendo, and condescension.


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05/01/2020 6:52 pm  
Posted by: @shiva

an Appendix in the undetermined future where people actually say what they mean without inference, innuendo, and condescension.

There won't be any appendixes: I already wrote extensively on all the various events that lead to my departure from O.T.O. Inc. on my website, on Thelemic Union, on Reddit, on Facebook Groups, since June 2018. It's all out there, well detailed. If you don't know about it, simply you aren't interested in yet another story of evidence of Breeze covering up abuses in his house.

But the point it... this is not what we are discussing on this thread. It was a news article about a rather notorious thelemite finally behind bars. 

Please keep up people, or I will have to think that old age, and boring pursuit of silly "cyphers" did more damage than I believed possible...

In other news, @Shiva - reading the Lulu version of your book, at long last. I would be interested to know if Capricornus ever had more actual documents on O.T.O. from the raid at the Germer's house, because it's clear that Breeze has nothing. 

Especially interested in actual Arcana Arcanorum instruction from the Reuss' time, echoing the work of people like Mailander and Kremmerz. Maybe for another thread tho.


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05/01/2020 7:00 pm  

The casual reader of this thread is certain to note the extensive use of, and reference to, a stick and a carrot ... possibly leading to an Appendix in the undetermined future where people actually say what they mean without inference, innuendo, and condescension

 

Exactly Shiva, I'm done with it. 


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05/01/2020 7:26 pm  
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Exactly Shiva, I'm done with it. 

I did bid you goodbye several posts ago...


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05/01/2020 7:50 pm  

@azrael2393

 

Alright Marco,

I used to think you had something of import to say on these fora but apparently you are only here to promote your 'talks' and make fun of people.  You make Dom look like  a model citizen.  It's all the more disappointing to know that Treadwell's bookshop has you as a manager and your website is so egotistical that you do nothing but paste your face everywhere showing your different mouth expressions.  That's quite 'adept' of you.

I wouldn't have sunk so low but you seem at your age, which is quite older than me, to be juvenile and extremely pokey pokey judgmental and it's mostly your website that also illustrates it. You shouldn't share that.  I too used to DJ and still compose and produce and well, you don't need to paste your mug everywhere.  Maybe it's a London thing about still trying to look young when you shave your head and do the trance stuff. 

 

Cant we all just laugh?

 

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05/01/2020 8:05 pm  
Posted by: @christibrany

You make Dom look like  a model citizen.

Steady on.


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05/01/2020 8:08 pm  

@michael-staley

Its ok sir.

 

Looking forward to Achad. 


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05/01/2020 8:51 pm  

@christibrany

Looks like someone is hurting... you can sit down now 🤣


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05/01/2020 9:42 pm  

As they say in Portuguese, you 'sir' can wait, standing. 


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05/01/2020 10:17 pm  
Posted by: @azrael2393

I did bid you goodbye several posts ago...

The moving keyboard types
then goes away to rest
but it usually returns.
It's called
Reintypation,
similar to
Reincarnation.

Dom never gives up. It just seems that way.
Even in his own words.

Beware, he will always come back.


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06/01/2020 10:28 am  
Posted by: @christibrany

Maybe it's a London thing about still trying to look young when you shave your head and do the trance stuff. 

Btw I shaved my head since I was 22. 20 years ago. It's ok if you are ugly, we don't judge.


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