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Terrible [Isil] vandalism at museum in Mosul

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This is quite honestly, one of the worst things I have yet seen.

Militant uses a power tool to destroy a winged-bull Assyrian protective deity at the Ninevah Museum in Mosul, Iraq. The statue dates back to the 9th century B.C.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2970270/Islamic-State-fighters-destroy-antiquities-Iraq-video.html


   
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The image sickened me.
For those not wanting to click on the Daily Fail link.
The video is actually horrific IMO.

More disturbing images and video here.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/02/26/video-shows-isis-militants-roaming-through-iraq-museum-with-sledgehammers-and-power-tools-destroying-artifacts/


   
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Thanks, I think I will pass. I don't want to see.


   
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Before and after...


   
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Um, this is the after:


   
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Having just partaken of a late lunch, I immediately felt like evacuating it up again upon seeing these images.  Once eradicated these items can never come back again of course.  A truly disgusting spectacle.  These vandals appear to have no conception or appreciation of either history or culture - let alone religion - and it’s the sort of thing to make one despair of the sort of world being created around us.

Absolutely shameful.
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Islam was founded upon a concept of "destroying idols." Crowley explained that the rampage against idols was Mohammed's way of overthrowing the previous rule of Krishna. So, yes, we might expect these contemporary maniacs to continue the tradition of "destroying idols." In their minds, they are probably "Doing Allah's Great Work." Along with beheadings, burning prisioners alive, and otherwise out on a rampage against everything and everybody everywhere, these vicious perverts of humanity can find the time to demolish antiquities. Great ... just great!  Our "advanced civilization" doesn't seem to be too effective in putting them down. First-world countries appear concerned, but we don't see the jihad being stopped. I wonder if we're seeing a repeat of Rome as it was harassed by the Huns and the Visigoths, who wer supposedly a "less advanced" bunch of barbarians.

Well, I'm gonna go read Chapter III again and see if there's any hope.


   
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"Shiva" wrote:
Well, I'm gonna go read Chapter III again and see if there's any hope.

The destruction of our common cultural heritage covered in this thread, have made me wonder if Chapter III, verse 19. "That stele they shall call the Abomination of Desolation; ...", verse 33. "Be ready to fly or to smite!", and verse 34. "But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox; ...", will become 'fulfilled prophesies' due to these verses in the same chapter;

"49. I am in a secret fourfold word, the blasphemy against all gods of men.

50. Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!

51. With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.

52. I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him.

53. With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din.

54. Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds." 


   
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"But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox;

A common theme with religious fanatics then.


   
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"michaelclarke18" wrote:

"But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox;

A common theme with religious fanatics then.

Well, it's acommon theme to destroy that which went before. The Olde Aegyptian Pharoahs always had the statues of their predecessors vandalized. That's why there's so many statues with broken noses and chipped faces. The IS guys have better techology I guess, so they are doing a more complete job (it seems).

"Defaced" Egyptian Statue
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However, Napoleon's soldier's shot the Sphinx's nose off with a cannon
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The idea of the holy place being untouched for centuries may be a horse of a different color or size. Obviously the Abbey of Thelema has already been "touched," and I doubt that it will remain for another single century. Boleskine is still in pretty good shape, but is it the "holy place?" I suggest that it's not a Malkuthian building, but that we look more closely at the "invisible House" concept and realize that it's an etheric temple and that it can move around from location to location. There are surely some of you who have seen this "house" and know what I'm talking about, and there are undoubtedly others who will say "WTF?"


   
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P.S. - " There are more ways than one to be barbaric, ISIS has demonstrated in Mosul. The militants, who seized the Iraqi city in June last year, have trashed its libraries and, by one estimate, have burned or otherwise destroyed more than 100,000 volumes, some of them rare and ancient, the Independent reports. According to the Fiscal Times, the city's public library was burned by militants on Sunday night, destroying thousands of books ...


   
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You make some valid and interesting points, Shiva, as usual, but...

"Shiva" wrote:
However, Napoleon's soldier's shot the Sphinx's nose off with a cannon

Not true. A commonly held belief, but factually incorrect.

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"wellreadwellbred" wrote:
The destruction of our common cultural heritage covered in this thread, have made me wonder if Chapter III, verse 19. "That stele they shall call the Abomination of Desolation; ...", verse 33. "Be ready to fly or to smite!", and verse 34. "But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox; ...", will become 'fulfilled prophesies' due to these verses in the same chapter...

A crass and foolish remark. Please think before posting, wellreadwellbred.

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"lashtal" wrote:
Not true. A commonly held belief, but factually incorrect.

Oh darn!  Now I'll have to go research that myth in greater detail. Sorry for promulgating an illusion. I'll report to the Grand Tribunal tomorrow morning.


   
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"Shiva" wrote:
However, Napoleon's soldier's shot the Sphinx's nose off with a cannon

According to the Arab historian al-Maqrīzī, the nose of the Sphinx was destroyed by Mohammed Sa'im al-Dahr, a fanatical sufi of the oldest and most highly respected sufi convent of Cairo.  The Danish explorer Frederic Louis Norden traveled the Nile from Egypt to the Sudan in 1737-1738 at the request of the King of Denmark ( Christian VI ).  He made many drawings and observations of the monuments, architecture, and people, which he published in 1755 as Voyage d'Egypte et de Nubie.  Several of the drawings were of the Sphinx, front and profile, which show the nose not there.

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The image above is from the Brooklyn Museum.  The New York Public Library Digital Archive has many of the prints online.  One of the primary purposes of the Napoleonic expedition to Egypt in 1798 was scientific.  The were 167 scientists, scholars, and savants, including engineers, botanists, physicists, mathematicians, chemists, and naturalists, including even among them as great a luminary as Jean-Joseph Fourier.  The Rosetta Stone was discovered during the expedition.  The results of the scientific side of the expedition were published in Description de l'Égypte, ou Recueil des observations et des recherches qui ont été faites en Égypte pendant l'expédition de l'armée française from 1809 to 1818 in 23 volumes ( Imperial edition ) and from 1820 to 1829 in 37 volumes ( second edition ).  It was produced by around 2000 artists and technicians, including 400 engravers.

It is quite possible without the publication of the Description de l'Égypte the Golden Dawn would never have come into existence ... as this work contributed mightily to the Egypt-o-mania of Empire which possessed the Western world thoughout the 19th and early 20th century.  Even the advertisements of the turn of the century before last were saturated with Egyptian imagery.  See Dominic Montserrat’s magisterial Akhenaten, History, Fantasy, and Ancient Egypt, and Jan  Assman’s Moses the Egyptian: The Memory of Egypt in Western Monotheism, and works by Dame Francis Yates.  Caroline Tully reviews some of the immediate precedents of Crowley's appropriation of Egyptian imagery in her Walk Like an Egyptian: Egypt as Authority in Aleister Crowley’s Reception of The Book of the Law.  There are several online editions of the Description de l'Égypte, click on the image below to go to the World Digital Library presentation of the plates of Volume 1

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Okay, how about this one?

"The one-metre-wide nose on the face is missing. Examination of the Sphinx's face shows that long rods or chisels were hammered into the nose, one down from the bridge and one beneath the nostril, then used to pry the nose off towards the south.

"The Arab historian al-Maqrīzī, writing in the 15th century, attributes the loss of the nose to iconoclasm by Muhammad Sa'im al-Dahr, a Sufi Muslim from the khanqah of Sa'id al-Su'ada. In AD 1378, upon finding the local peasants making offerings to the Sphinx in the hope of increasing their harvest, Sa'im al-Dahr was so outraged that he destroyed the nose, and was hanged for vandalism."


   
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"Shiva" wrote:
"lashtal" wrote:
Not true. A commonly held belief, but factually incorrect.

Oh darn!  Now I'll have to go research that myth in greater detail. Sorry for promulgating an illusion. I'll report to the Grand Tribunal tomorrow morning.

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"lashtal" wrote:
A crass and foolish remark. Please think before posting, wellreadwellbred.

I am sorry for the said crass and foolish remark, and I am willing to report to the Grand Tribunal tomorrow morning, together with Shiva.


   
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I saw the reports and video footage yesterday and it made my physically sick and tearful. It reminded my of the destruction of the massive Buddha in Afghanistan by the Taliban. Iraq was the cradle of civilisation and is rich in Archaeological treasures that are utterly priceless. When you consider that what remained had survived two gulf wars! These acts truly are crimes against humanity!

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I am sorry for the said crass and foolish remark, and I am willing to report to the Grand Tribunal tomorrow morning, together with Shiva.

I'll make an appointment for you.


   
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31730844

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