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AhihChiva567
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

The significance of the numerals of The Book of Thoth:

  • LA "Not!" (30+1)=31
  • (VIII+O)=8 (Ch) - 418 - ABRAHADABRA
  • (O+I+XIX+O+XVII+O+III+O+I+XIX+O)=60
  • (31+60)=91 (AMN)
  • (8+60)=68 (ChKM)

This short post is to initiate conversation.

Love is the law, love under will.


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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

The significance of the numerals of The Book of Thoth:

  • LA "Not!" (30+1)=31
  • (VIII+O)=8 (Ch) - 418 - ABRAHADABRA
  • (O+I+XIX+O+XVII+O+III+O+I+XIX+O)=60
  • (31+60)=91 (AMN)
  • (8+60)=68 (ChKM)

This short post is to initiate conversation.

Love is the law, love under will.

Consider this, AMN (1+40+50)=91 (O+XII+XIII)=25

  • ChIVA "the Beast" (8+10+6+1)=25

Any takers?


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Posted by: @ahihchiva567

This short post is to initiate conversation.

Thank you for the QBL data entries. Everyone here, except for two folks who somehow cannot add, subtract, or multiply, much less divide, is/are familiar with your key data entries in words and numbers, although I will admit that, to me, 68 rings no bell.

What is it that you wish to express via 68?


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Referring to ChKMH (see Sepher Sephiroth) "To be Wise".


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(91+25)=116 (50+6+50+6+6) NUN-UU / NU "the hiding of Hadit".


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(91+25)=116 (50+6+50+6+6) NUN-UU / NU "the hiding of Hadit".

NUN-UU (XIII+V+XIII+V+V)=41 AM "Mother" ALP-MIM (1+30+80+40+10+40)=201 AR "Light" RA "the Sun"


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One should consider the Beast as ALP, in essence, the manifestation of the God as the Fool architype. Thus: AL=31 (8) fill in the blank (?) P=80 (8+80)=88 KHABS "the Star" PH=85 (8+85)=93! Brothers and Sisters.


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KHABS (X+XVII+O+I+XIV)=42 (31+42)=73 ChKMH the Serpent of Wisdom. (8+42)=50 N referring to the Fish-Gods, as we know them: Lords of Life and Death. (88+42)=130 OIN "An Eye" (XV+IX+XIII)=37 (31+37)=68 ChKM (8+37)=45 ADM "Man" (130+31)=161 AUMN (130+37)=167 AMOUN "the Concealed One".


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ChITh-PH=503 (VII+IX+XXI+XVI+XVII)=70 (8+70)=78 AIVAS! the messenger (503+70)=573 (573+93)=666 the prophet.


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Reconsider 8, 80, 418 as speaking of the the Beast as ZERO, that is, the secret key himself.


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Posted by: @ahihchiva567

One should consider the Beast as ALP

Or ALF.

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the manifestation of the God as the Fool architype.

Yep.


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I couldn't agree more.


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  • AUMN=161 (add the numerals) 161+40=201 RA
  • AMOUN=167 (add the numerals) ADM=45 (add the numerals) IH=15 (add the numerals) IHVH=26

"the Concealed Man-God"

  • ALP-DLTh-MIM=635 (31+635)=666
  • IVD-HH=30 (31+30)=61 "the Jews call it"

That is all. Good day.


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Posted by: @ahihchiva567

That is all. Good day.

Well, yes, and that was very exciting.

Aside from the fact that HVHY (26) was a genocidal, tribal demon-god of the Hebrews, and still is, all these other numbers of your book coincide with what all of us here know to be (relatively) true, except for two dunces, and some of us, especially me, are wondering what you point, or non-point is/was?

You sent a message ...

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This short post is to initiate conversation.

... then mass serial-posted to yourself. This is not a conversation.

Please make sure tou read this site's Guidelines. You couldn't get in here without acknowledging that you've read the Guidelines, but you are violating them, and if you continue, you might first get warned (officially), then your fire will be put out, your data will be scattered, and your name (or not) will become unknown.

So, please only make one post at a time. Then wait 'til someone else posts before you post again. That's the rule. Says so in the Scriptures.

 


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Please forgive my ignorance of the law, it won't happen again. I do apologize. Sincerely.

Oh, yes, that terrible monster, he's but only a formula; I did not mean the literal IHVH (is there such a thing, you know, as a "literal" Jehovah?) and feel your concerns.

My point: the significance of the numerals as a key element in the interpretation of AL, and that 8, 80, 418 "literally" is the technical title of The Book of the Law, if you but play with the numbers. Of course, I came a little fast...maybe a little difficult to understand...but it's all there.

Again, my sincerest apologies.

Consider the Hebrew letter NUN (50+6+50)=106 (XIII+V+XIII)=31 AL "Fish-God", Mars rules Scorpio, that is (P) and (31+106)=137 quite an interesting number.


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Please forgive my ignorance of the law, it won't happen again. I do apologize. Sincerely.

What I would like to hear is how these numeric connections manifest as transformative elements in your own life. AND...how these transformations relate to all of our lives in general. Gematria is a realm rife with insanity and (even worse) irrelevance. Who gives a shit if HORUS =NUIT or some number or verse = BEAST or Whatever? How does this impact your life in a manner which transforms it? And does this have implication for your fellow humans as a whole?

THIS is the key question for Gematria.


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Please forgive my ignorance of the law, it won't happen again. I do apologize. Sincerely.

What I would like to hear is how these numeric connections manifest as transformative elements in your own life. AND...how these transformations relate to all of our lives in general. Gematria is a realm rife with insanity and (even worse) irrelevance. Who gives a shit if HORUS =NUIT or some number or verse = BEAST or Whatever? How does this impact your life in a manner which transforms it? And does this have implication for your fellow humans as a whole?

THIS is the key question for Gematria.

How these manifest in my own life - how they have manifested, in my life, as a whole - is quite a story, dating back some many years now, back before there were no numbers, no "Book of the Law", of all things; but to a stern rationalist, such as myself, the deeper implications are a.) Is Liber AL authentic? and b.) If so, what does that REALLY mean. And, yet, I only have my own accumulative experience, which may (or may not) mean shit to anyone.

Briefly. I discovered The Book of the Law some many years ago while researching world isms and ologies (all that bs!) after a series of events led me there. I discovered an old book in a library, what appears to have been a book of letters to the parents of a young boy by the name of Kenneth Grant, and a statement made by their author caught my eye: "Magick is the art of creating change in conformity with the will", or something...like that. To make a long story short, I got my copy of Liber AL - reason: creating change in conformity with the will, more or less a strange phenomenon one tends to notice, especially if their not waving wands on some Harry Potter shit. But I would have my copy for about a year, the phenomenon persisted, before I would begin to write several verse repeatedly over two days. (I was then quite illiterate, still not so great!) But on the second day of my O.C.D. psychosis I just sort of stopped...wrote one word and a series of letters from following verses, creating something that looked like a crossword puzzle, when I noticed, all bunched together, a group of words I had seen before in other writings, what I would come to learn to be titles of deity and very specific metaphysical formula concerning the manifestation of the universe. I would then have to learn the values of the letters, being that it was too real, and what I found was forever life changing...a key puzzle to the text, and the numbers and related words which unlock it.

How does this impact my life in a manner which transforms it? I have no choice but to stop resisting, stop suffering; I have no reason but to bend my back before the destruction of reason, and, indeed, the law is for all. Welcome to the new world. I hope this answers your questions...I am rather simple.


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Thanks for your providing some biographical context to your jottings....I was going to say that lots of people like crossword puzzles, and daily....and indeed I think it is interesting how you were drawn into this and how it has evolved.
 
What is also interesting is that you seem to be posting "answers", but frankly one could also call them teases into the puzzle...for one has to work to understand, and to know the alphabet and language, of what might be termed a game...one indeed with its obsessional dangers, for some...
 
what you have shared are very compact, like explosive devises, that need to be delicately unwrapped and contemplated....certainly I do know that there is a certain thrill in making certain discoveries along such lines, and also know that in a way is called hermeticism for a reason, but hey, maybe others will appreciate your sharing. 
 
I was interested if you could speak more about this book you reference...
 
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("I discovered an old book in a library, what appears to have been a book of letters to the parents of a young boy by the name of Kenneth Grant, and a statement made by their author caught my eye: "Magick is the art of creating change in conformity with the will")

Was this book "Remembering Aleister Crowley"?

 


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("I discovered an old book in a library, what appears to have been a book of letters to the parents of a young boy by the name of Kenneth Grant, and a statement made by their author caught my eye: "Magick is the art of creating change in conformity with the will")

Was this book "Remembering Aleister Crowley"?

Unfortunately, I don't know. What I remember: an old hardback that had been repaired several times, yellowed pages. I remember the name Kenneth Grant (who I know a little more about now) and the requests that he be allowed to become a student or something. In the back of the book, however, there was a list of his writings: Magick in Theory and Practice, Thoth, AL...and a few others. I only sought "The Book of the Law" do to the fact of it's name sounding fundamental.


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"The Book of the Law" do [due] to the fact of it's name sounding fundamental.

The Book of the Law is a masonic term. Depending on the religious inclination of the candidate, it may be a Bible, a Koran, a Talmud, or (theoretically) a Tao Teh Ching.

So, Threefold Book of Law (via Aiwass - via Crowley) is just another example of previously named concepts/things that somehow came to be incorporated in the Thelemic paradigm.

 


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"The Book of the Law" do [due] to the fact of it's name sounding fundamental.

The Book of the Law is a masonic term. Depending on the religious inclination of the candidate, it may be a Bible, a Koran, a Talmud, or (theoretically) a Tao Teh Ching.

So, Threefold Book of Law (via Aiwass - via Crowley) is just another example of previously named concepts/things that somehow came to be incorporated in the Thelemic paradigm.

 

No previous knowledge as a masonic term, though, do recognize other text's to share this same claim to authority, according to their respective cults, of course.

Threefold Book of Law (3) reveals much about the nature of the lord, and his minister.


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what you have shared are very compact, like explosive devises, that need to be delicately unwrapped and contemplated....

Anyone who has made a serious inquiry into the text, beyond imaginative cyphers, are aware of certain facts unknown to others who have not; what I have given here is a call to arms: truly we are serpents of the wheel...call it AL, ALI, ALHIM...NChSh - we are radical, creative intelligence. Creation/preservation/destruction/renovation - AUM! and I AM here looking for someone special.


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Posted by: @ahihchiva567

I AM here looking for someone special.

RTC will surely be along sometime before April Fool's 1st of the next e.v..

Otherwise, I don't know of anybody special here, but good luck in your endeavor.


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I don't know of anybody special here

Oh, Shiva. 

You're so humble.


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I don't know of anybody special here

With all due respect, humility goes a long way...a lot like common sense. I respect these more than anything.

Question: would you be willing to EXPAND upon this shortest (to the point!) statement I AM?


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I don't know of anybody special here

With all due respect, humility goes a long way...a lot like common sense. I respect these more than anything.

Question: would you be willing to EXPAND upon this shortest (to the point!) statement I AM?


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Question: would you be willing to EXPAND upon this shortest (to the point!) statement I AM?

Um, maybe. If I understand the question, which I don't. Do you mean expand upon "I AM?"


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Perhaps we should get a room, something more intimate - is that possible?


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Um, maybe. If I understand the question, which I don't. Do you mean expand upon "I AM?"

O, yes...EXPAND.


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Shall I do it for you?


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Lets get away from here, speak privately.


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I think we both know what we are talking about, it need not go any further. Give me an email address, phone number...and we can get on with this!


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I offer a truce; you gents are good old boys...no need to get yourselves all in an uproar, some of us have done the work, perhaps we have something to offer one another, as friends.


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