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MELEKTAUS - THELEMIC DEATH METAL BAND FROM CHILE!


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check our website!!

http://www.melektaus.cl /"> http://www.melektaus.cl/


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Oh goody, another thelemic death metal band, can't get enough of 'em......


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I personally don't picture Hoor Paar Kraat going about the world kicking ass, but I guess everyone is entitled to their interpretation.

Those poor Yezidi, talk about a misunderstood people!!! There are some fine websites out there by and about the Yezidi people, culture and religion, and Melek Taus to them is something quite different than what some authors have implied. Here is one example: http://altreligion.about.com/library/faqs/bl_yezidism.htm
Their religion is quite interesting enough, having elements of very ancient religions, Zoroastrianism and Mithraism, among others, to make it worthy of study without falling into the pit of considering them "devil worshippers" in the sense of being Satanists.

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Wow... I suddenly feel old. Very, very old.


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I suddenly feel old

And I, as well, Wulfram. It's been a while since I've listened to Cookie Monster sing! I THINK I made out the lyric "C is for Cabala...that's good enough for me..." but I'm not quite sure.

Now I think it's time to put in some Killing Joke and mellow out...


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I enjoy many types of music, heavy metal not excluded, but "Thelemic death metal"?!

...upon death; peace unutterable, rest, ecstasy...

Death is forbidden, o man, unto thee.

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"death metal" is a style in metal music man, no a philosophic term!!! if you dont like deathmetal or metal dont listen to this, Melektaus is OUR FORM to make spiritual music. Any opinion for the lyrics or website's design?


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Dear Anephexeton,

Haven't heard anything by you yet but do you sound anything like Napalm Death?

MK


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"m.klaw" wrote:
Dear Anephexeton,

Haven't heard anything by you yet but do you sound anything like Napalm Death?

MK

No... and napalm death is a grindcore metal band....


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Well, I do like a lot of metal. Not my all time favorite genre, but I listen to a lot of it. I'm more of a black metal fan myself. =P But its not too bad. Personally I could live without the vocals, they sound kind of generic (as do most death metal bands)

Now, a good thelemic death metal band? Behemoth.


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Death metal, pop Satanism and playing "eviller than thou" stopped scaring me when Monotheist fanatics flew passenger jets into high rises. THAT was scary.

The Old Aeon establishment doesn't need any help bathing the planet in blood, they're doing a dandy job on their own. And they own the tools to do it -- electric guitars just ain't gonna cut it.

That said, what you're doing is at best average, from what I've seen. You have the long-hair head-bobbing down, at least.

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It's been a while since I've listened to Cookie Monster sing!

This comment piqued my curiosity so I HAD to go and take a listen and he really DOES sound like Cookie monster! 😯

I dont listen to this type of music though so I wouldnt know a good death metal band from a bad one.

The instrumentals are good though. The website is fantastically done. I spent a little while checking out your links and what not. The Bio was interesting and it appears your band has much to be proud of.

I DO wish you much sucess in your ventures, even if this isn't my cup of tea.

93 93/93
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"Drage_Av_Lys" wrote:
Well, I do like a lot of metal. Not my all time favorite genre, but I listen to a lot of it. I'm more of a black metal fan myself. =P But its not too bad. Personally I could live without the vocals, they sound kind of generic (as do most death metal bands)

Now, a good thelemic death metal band? Behemoth.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Behemoth? Just because they choosed he name Thelema6 for their album? I can't agree with this and I don't consider metal as serious music if we talk about ocult and Thelema. Obscurity from Slovenia, not death nut thras, can be caunted as a band influenced with Thelema. Acheron can be consider as inteligent satanic band, as far as I can remember my communication witrh Vincent more tahn 15 years ago. But most of other metal bands aren't serious at all. Metal is not my cup of tea at all, but I must admit that, for example, Nile is good band who covers egyptian thematic. Doas this fact means they are "kemetic band"? Not at all in my opinion.

Love is the law, love under will.

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"Frater_HPK" wrote:
"Drage_Av_Lys" wrote:
Well, I do like a lot of metal. Not my all time favorite genre, but I listen to a lot of it. I'm more of a black metal fan myself. =P But its not too bad. Personally I could live without the vocals, they sound kind of generic (as do most death metal bands)

Now, a good thelemic death metal band? Behemoth.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Behemoth? Just because they choosed he name Thelema6 for their album? I can't agree with this and I don't consider metal as serious music if we talk about ocult and Thelema. Obscurity from Slovenia, not death nut thras, can be caunted as a band influenced with Thelema. Acheron can be consider as inteligent satanic band, as far as I can remember my communication witrh Vincent more tahn 15 years ago. But most of other metal bands aren;t serious at all. Metal is not my cup of tea at al, but I must admit that, for example, Nile is good band who covers egyptian thematic. Doas this fact means they are "kemetic band"? Not at all in my opinion.

Love is the law, love under will.

B.

Good point, however I've been listening to behemoth since before I've actually known what Thelema is. And when I started doing some readings, they have song titles from Liber AL, choruses composed of chants from rituals... It doesn't necessarily mean they are 'Thelemic', as I've never heard anything from them stating that they practice thelema, a more proper conclusion would be a 'band with Thelemic influences'.


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Perhaps, the fellow who mentioned Hoor Paar Kraat forgot his counterpart of Force & Fire?

Aside from this, everyone's opinions smacks of subjectivity (inherently). Even lashtal chimes in, implying the Liber AL part to mean something about how death shouldn't be of us; whatever he was implying, it smells of pestilence to me.

Whoever is in this band Melektaus, I would not take heed of people who call your music bad, average, good or anything really; just do your Will. If it is producing "death metal" or "black metal" or any sort of building material, so be it.

It has been said:
...So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that, and no other shall say nay... There is no law beyond Do what thou wilt.

Not that I am implying these quotes answer anything; I thought the lines might give some people food for thought...

It has also been said that
Love is the law, love under will.


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"Aum418" wrote:
Even lashtal chimes in, implying the Liber AL part to mean something about how death shouldn't be of us; whatever he was implying, it smells of pestilence to me.

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Aum418 wrote:

Perhaps, the fellow who mentioned Hoor Paar Kraat forgot his counterpart of Force & Fire?

No, I didn't forget -- to me Ra Hoor Khuit represents Force & Fire, and his counterpart Hoor Paar Kraat is Silence, together they are Heru Ra Ha. I see Ra Hoor Khuit as the god of War & Vengeance, not Hoor Paar Kraat/Harpocrates. I think it's a matter of confusion of the planes, or maybe Hoor Paar Kraat simply rhymes better in the lyrics than RHK.

nick knock... who's there?


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The tradition of "Cookie Monster" vocals seems to be a natural instinctive way to represent the voice of the dead, being a kind of extended death rattle.

I once saw a documentary on TV where they filmed a tribe in the Amazon doing a ritual where they decended into the underworld and they were actually wearing corpse paint makeup and chanting in the cookie monster style! I doubt the black metal bands of the 80's realised they were carrying on such a primitive tradition altough I think Celtic Frost intended with the corpse paint to create a primitive aesthetic.

Behemoth are something of a puzzle. They are definately pushing a Thelemic philosophy, though this has to be considered in the context of Poish death metal where arguably the leading band on the scene is Vader who have some very "real" magickal lyrics and could be exerting a big influence on acts such as Behemoth. However, you can't deny Behemoths "Decade of Therion" with the familiar chorus of "APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS"! They made agreat video for it too, which is worth searching for on Youtube or a similar video host.

The reason magicians react negatively to death or black metal bands using magickal imagery is that we doubt their intentions. The long traditions of metal bands using such imagery for nothing more than aesthetic purposes has left a bitter taste in the mouth. With bands like Killing Joke, Ulver or Solefald it is obvious they are the real thing, but it's hard to imagine most other bands committing to the hard work and discipline required for magick.

As to questions of the artistic merit of these styles of music, as black and death metal are both very eletist scenes, the comments of those outside the scene are viewed with contempt, as for someone who doesn't understand the music to question it's merit is as bad as a BBC radio presenter suggesting that Crowley claimed to be the reincarnation of Satan. 😉


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"Frater_HPK" wrote:
Acheron can be consider as inteligent satanic band, as far as I can remember my communication witrh Vincent more tahn 15 years ago.

Your memory must be playing tricks on you! 😉

Acheron are far from being considered an inteligent band, although I guess you could call them intelligent by the Church of Satan's standards. 😕

A great example of really intelligent Satanic / Luciferian music is Emperor's "Prometheus - the Discipline of Fire and Demise" which has an intelligent narrative and superbly orchestrated music. While I'm at it, I'd also recommend the lead singer of Emperor, Ihsahn's solo album "The Adversary" - another fantastic example of the height's which black metal can reach.


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all the styles of music you can find emotional and spiritual power! Melektaus is OUR FORM and path to make spiritual music! Away from me the "closed mind" people!


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only the "orchestrated music" is spiritual? pff


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"anephexeton" wrote:
only the "orchestrated music" is spiritual? pff

He never said that. lol.

And Emperor is symphonic black metal, if you didn't know.


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"Drage_Av_Lys" wrote:
"anephexeton" wrote:
only the "orchestrated music" is spiritual? pff

He never said that. lol.

And Emperor is symphonic black metal, if you didn't know.

I know Emperor (in the nightside eclipse & anthems to the welkin at dusk rules!), we was play in shows with Dark funeral and gorgoroth, i know black metal


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Well, all he was saying is he liked how well Emperor symphonically structures their songs and that they're a good example of an actual intelligent satanic band. =P

Though I'm not quite sure how satanic the members of emperor are... its hard to tell with black metal bands. they're either blatantly satanic or just enjoy the reactions from christians caused by the satanic imagery and are actually pagan/asatru/whatever


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As Drage_Av_Lys pointed out, I was not saying only symphonic metal can be spiritual, on the contrary, brutal death metal can be very spiritual, Morbid Angel being a fine example.

I read an interview with Emperor in a fanzine years ago and they were asked if they take part in Satanic rituals and their reply was along the lines of "we consider our music and performance to be a ritual but we don't do any formal rituals" which is the approach taken by about 99% of black metal bands.

That said, Emperor's lead singer Ihsahn has nowadays a very defined Luciferian philosophy. And as a final bit of Emperor trivia, in the "Lords of Chaos" book about the black metal scene, I think it is the head of the Norweigan OTO who says out of all the black metal musicians he's met, Ihsahn is the only one he would feel comfortable having in the OTO.


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"nashimiron" wrote:
As Drage_Av_Lys pointed out, I was not saying only symphonic metal can be spiritual, on the contrary, brutal death metal can be very spiritual, Morbid Angel being a fine example.

I read an interview with Emperor in a fanzine years ago and they were asked if they take part in Satanic rituals and their reply was along the lines of "we consider our music and performance to be a ritual but we don't do any formal rituals" which is the approach taken by about 99% of black metal bands.

That said, Emperor's lead singer Ihsahn has nowadays a very defined Luciferian philosophy. And as a final bit of Emperor trivia, in the "Lords of Chaos" book about the black metal scene, I think it is the head of the Norweigan OTO who says out of all the black metal musicians he's met, Ihsahn is the only one he would feel comfortable having in the OTO.

Yeah man, bands as Hate Eternal, Kataklysm, Behemoth, Vital Remains, Angel Corpse, Nile, Immolation, etc.


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"lashtal" wrote:
I enjoy many types of music, heavy metal not excluded, but "Thelemic death metal"?!

...upon death; peace unutterable, rest, ecstasy...

Death is forbidden, o man, unto thee.

Melektaus is not as the Almighty Marilyn Manson... sorry lashtal.

http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-859.phtm l"> http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-859.phtml


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93!
I viewed your video on youtube.com and I think that we all know now what the cookie monster does on the weekends! . . . , seriously though, I had my laptops speakers turned all the way up and still couldn't make out a word. Other than the obvious blurred A.'.A.'. graphic that appeared prior to the performance, I didn't see any Thelemic connection, I do not know the difference between death, black, blah, blah metal and so on. but your music sounded very thunderous!

∞Q


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93!
I viewed your video on youtube.com and I think that we all know now what the cookie monster does on the weekends! . . . , seriously though, I had my laptops speakers turned all the way up and still couldn't make out a word. Other than the obvious blurred A.'.A.'. graphic that appeared prior to the performance, I didn't see any Thelemic connection, I do not know the difference between death, black, blah, blah metal and so on. but your music sounded very thunderous!

∞Q

Ok, you are a IGNORANT in metal music, Mr. "Questforknowledge".


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Melektaus is not as the Almighty Marilyn Manson... sorry lashtal.

Ok, you are a IGNORANT in metal music, Mr. "Questforknowledge".

God, please somebody shut this thread down.

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Awww, C'mon! 😆

Imagine if AC were alive today. Not only would he be doggedly pursuing the band for a huge percentage of the royalties, he'd have bullied them into financing a lavish all expenses paid trip to Chile. On arrival, he'd be all over the record company expense account before you could say 'Apo Pantos Kakodaimonos!' After a choice meal at the best restaurant in Santiago at which he'd rudely ignore the band completely he'd be off to the Ritz-Carlton with at least one of their wives and girlfriends!


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"adonia444" wrote:

Melektaus is not as the Almighty Marilyn Manson... sorry lashtal.

Ok, you are a IGNORANT in metal music, Mr. "Questforknowledge".

God, please somebody shut this thread down.

🙄

any lack of respect as "cookie monster"? no.


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"arcturus418" wrote:
Awww, C'mon! 😆

Imagine if AC were alive today. Not only would he be doggedly pursuing the band for a huge percentage of the royalties, he'd have bullied them into financing a lavish all expenses paid trip to Chile. On arrival, he'd be all over the record company expense account before you could say 'Apo Pantos Kakodaimonos!' After a choice meal at the best restaurant in Santiago at which he'd rudely ignore the band completely he'd be off to the Ritz-Carlton with at least one of their wives and girlfriends!

ok, A.C in another time, good history. 🙄


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The dictators suppress all art, literature, theatre, music, news that does not meet with their requirements; yet the world only moves by the light of their genius. The herd will be destroyed in mass. The establishment of the Law of Thelema is the only way to preserve individual liberty and to assure the future of the race. In the words of the famous paradox of the Comte de Fenix. The absolute rule of the state shall be a function of the absolute liberty of each individual will. All men and women are invited to co-operate with the Master Therion in this, the Great Work.

Aleister Crowley - Introduction to Liber Al


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-if all depends on music then go ahead, when unbelievably it dies, ok - next stage (don't hook on music or time it's progeny, but you must) hehe


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"anephexeton" wrote:
The dictators suppress all ... music ... that does not meet with their requirements

Thanks for the Crowley quote, although it's possible that one or two of us here may already have read it.

But that's okay...

Has your music been "suppressed"? At all?

Do you think what you've produced is what Crowley was referring to in the context of the quoted piece?

Do you think you've been dealt with unreasonably on this website?

Do you think there's much to be gained by your blizzard of posts?

Just curious: never heard an album by you, so I'm not in a position to comment...

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"firestarter" wrote:
-if all depends on music then go ahead, when unbelievably it dies, ok - next stage (don't hook on music or time it's progeny, but you must) hehe

if you dont like deathmetal or metal dont listen to this!

Man has the right to think what he will:
to speak what he will:
to write what he will:
to draw, paint, carve, etch, mould, build as he will:
to dress as he will.

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Has your music been "suppressed"? At all?

I detect INTOLERANCE in this forum, a form of suppression.

Do you think what you've produced is what Crowley was referring to in the context of the quoted piece?

The dictator's behavior is a reccurent mistake in other people too.

Do you think there's much to be gained by your blizzard of posts?

I can't??

go to: http://www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/review-m0.htm#MELEKTAUS or www.melektaus.cl


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It seems odd to me that a fellow immersed in "Death Metal" enters any forum (except those devoted to deathmetal) expecting hugs and kisses. I would think hostility would be an aphrodisiac for him... and maybe it is, thus the continuing posts.

hippy nick


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"papanick" wrote:
It seems odd to me that a fellow immersed in "Death Metal" enters any forum (except those devoted to deathmetal) expecting hugs and kisses. I would think hostility would be an aphrodisiac for him... and maybe it is, thus the continuing posts.

hippy nick

Forget it man, we dont need devotion.


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I would never suggest that death metal is only for the young (my girlfriend tell's me I am in my thirties, and I still buy new black and death metal albums) but those who do not appreciate it on this forum have to think of it from the perspective of a young person who is reading Crowley, ancient mythology, maybe a bit of Goetia. Where else in "popular culture" is a teenager who relates to Crowley's writings going to find music that stimulates his imagination and gets his blood pumping?

Sure, in later years you start listening to John Zorn and Coil but when your young the immediacy and power of black and death metal really hit's the spot. And you know what? 20 years later I'm still going to gig's and buying albums. The fact that I always enjoyed classical and folk music as well never detracted me from extreme forms of musical art.

And you also have to remember that there is an unbridgeable gulf between the extreme metal underground and the brainless commercial rock music which you see on MTV. It's unfortunate that when it comes to darker styles of art, the superior, truly dark art is always appreciated by a few whereas the superficial half assed attempts at dark art is lapped up by many more people.

But when you listen to this kind of music you have to remember, it's only black to the blind. 😉


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Forget it man, we dont need devotion.

Maybe you just need a hug...and a cookie!

Seriously, I don't think you need to defend the band-some will like it, some won't. I'm a HUGE David Tibet fan-and my wife throws things at me when I put on that "Mary Poppins Music!" Regarding the quotes from Liber OZ, I don't think they're relevant-I don't see anyone trying to suppress your music or your chosen route of expressing yourself and your energy through it.

To be honest, the biggest "problem" I have with "Death Metal" is the vocals (and this is a general statement-and it's my OPINION, nothing more!). Everytime I hear the words "Death Metal," I think: here comes Cookie! And sure enough: Cookie comes!

A band I love is Mudvayne-and the pummeling vocals gain in their roaring (yes, Cookie!) POWER because of the build and contrast to vocal variance. Now in all fairness, I only listened to one track from your downloads-and if you feel that a given song really does have some of the variance, please point me to it and I'll listen. The guitars were great...

Also: would you share a bit about how Thelema guides your work? Clearly there is the "fire" side being expressed-to what end? (this is not a challenge so please don't take it that way-I'd really like to hear more about how the band sees itself in terms of working a particular angle from the Thelemic Current...I read the review and it identified things as "Satanic" but the Introduction of Thelemic Elements makes it worthy of a little more consideration.

This thread is running wildly on, there ARE those of us on the site (including our Webmaster!) who really do dig utter intensity and passion...so let's step aside from the smart remarks (myself included) and hear a bit more of the Vision of the Band...I really am interested at this point!

93!

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Personally I don't like "metal" at all, but there is some stuff around I find interesting, like Sunn0))), Khanate and anything involving James Plotkin.I like exactly 50% of Cultosaurus Erectus by BOC, and have a cd by greek whatever-metal-band Rotting Christ with a fun cookie-monster cover of Current 93's Lucifer Over London on it.Oh, and a Nile cd, on which I'm 99% certain they sampled SPK.None of this is thelemic, except maybe Rotting Christ, and I have no idea what kinds of metal they are, except Khanate are slooooooooooooooooooooow and sound like the soundtrack to a serial killers dream.
How did this thread get so long?


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I'm going to close this thread now, as a result of requests from several members. I think it's fair to say that it's pretty much run its course.

Perhaps I might be forgiven for closing with one, final remark: If Anephexeton's colleagues in the band should ever discover the real names of some of the members of this site, internationally renowned members of some of the most prominent and respected rock groups of many genres, including their own, then I suspect that they'll be less than grateful for his antagonistic and, frankly, bizarre posts...

If he only knew...

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